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  #31  
Old June 1st 18, 11:19 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Köhlmann[_3_]
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nospam wrote:

In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

The BSDs have much to recommend them but Linux tends to have better
hardware and application support.


no it definitely does not.


Just don't bother to tell us that you can't read. Because that is way beyond
your capabilities

most hardware vendors don't bother writing linux drivers. the market is
much too small to be worth the resources needed.

most software developers don't bother writing a linux version. the
market much is too small to be worth the resources needed.

lately, the focus is ios and android. there may not even be a mac or
windows version, never mind linux.


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  #32  
Old June 1st 18, 11:21 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-06-01, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote:

In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

The BSDs have much to recommend them but Linux tends to have better
hardware and application support.


no it definitely does not.


Just don't bother to tell us that you can't read. Because that is way beyond
your capabilities


Good luck in booting BSDs on recent hardware



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  #33  
Old June 1st 18, 11:23 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-06-01, oOze wrote:
- Using Nouveau in Debian prevents wake from sleep or returns a screen
with corrupted graphics.


Nouveau sucks, though graphics drivers are such complex beasts that I
give the developers their due for coming up with something that works at
all. (Unless you've worked in software development it's hard to appreciate
just how difficult it is to get these stoopid machines to do anything
useful.)

The proprietary binary Nvidia driver works quite well in most cases but
since it's out-of-tree with the rest of the Linux distriubution there is
always the potential for problems to develop. Best-supported open-source
video for Linux is Intel.

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  #34  
Old June 1st 18, 11:25 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2018-06-01, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote:

In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

The BSDs have much to recommend them but Linux tends to have better
hardware and application support.

no it definitely does not.


Just don't bother to tell us that you can't read. Because that is way
beyond your capabilities


Good luck in booting BSDs on recent hardware



You are talking to "nospam"
In short, you are talking to heated dirt. Dumb beyond any imagination

  #35  
Old June 1st 18, 11:26 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 6/1/18 3:18 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-06-01, Snit wrote:
Which is great -- and it does for many. Curious: what type work do you
do with it?


I do a lot of system and network management work, mainly with
internet-based servers (web servers, mail servers, etc.). Used to do
software development years ago, but transitioned to sysadmin type work.
In some cases I do build software from source (Makefiles are still
in use, and still look like bursts of line noise inside!), even make
modifications, but I don't get involved in major development projects
any more.


Yeah, for that type of work Linux seems an excellent choice (as if I
thought it was not you would immediately jump to GS/OS to please me!)

I'm very familiar with the tools available on Linux for doing system
administration and network management tasks, many of which are descendents
of ancient Unix programs. (I can actually use my circa 1981 Unix BSD
4.1 manual as a guide to many of the common programs still in use. In
a lot of cases all that has changed is adding new command-line options.
Scripts I wrote decades ago still work with minor tweaking to accomodate
new versions of utility programs.)

I do some work with Windows servers and workstations as well, which
is why I subscribe to some Windows newsgroups.

I might be more willing to move to Linux if I was, for example, a
programmer. I do a fair amount of work with images and videos (mostly
screencasting and other educational videos). For the work I do Linux is
not as good of a fit.


As far as I know there are no professional-quality video or photo/graphics
editing tools for Linux that you can buy.


Correct. I do not do high end video editing, but the work I do is
benefited greatly by features that do not exist on any software I know
of for Linux (hiding / showing / replacing the mouse pointer, showing
hiding keystrokes, sometimes highlighting windows, etc. -- all in post
processing). Plenty of good screen recording software on Linux, but
because of this limit and my own familiarity with my tools of choice I
generally run Linux in a VM when I record it.

So Windows or OS-X are going
to be the best platforms for that. The GIMP is good enough for my own
minimal photo editing needs, the simple Openshot editor for video.


GIMP would handle a fair amount of my image editing needs but there are
a number of things I do which are better handled by Photoshop.

On the
other hand, ffmpeg is like a Swiss army knife for doing media conversion,
and is even used under the hood by a lot of Windows-based conversion
software.


And a lot of macOS software, too. I have used multiple GUI wrappers for
it over the years and sometimes even run it in the command line (I am
not a big command line user but recognize it has advantages over the GUI
and use it when it fits my needs).


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  #36  
Old June 1st 18, 11:36 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-06-01, Melzzzzz wrote:
Good luck in booting BSDs on recent hardware


It tends to be especially problematical with laptops.

Companies like Intel, Broadcom, Nvidia, AMD, LSI/3Ware, and others
have released Linux drivers for at least some of their hardware; in
some cases providing source code, in other cases not. HP provides
Linux printer drivers, as does Brother and Samsung. In many cases
where no vendor-supplied driver exists, open-source developers have
reverse-engineered drivers with varying levels of success.

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  #37  
Old June 1st 18, 11:39 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 6/1/18 3:21 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2018-06-01, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote:

In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

The BSDs have much to recommend them but Linux tends to have better
hardware and application support.

no it definitely does not.


Just don't bother to tell us that you can't read. Because that is way beyond
your capabilities


Good luck in booting BSDs on recent hardware


Well, a derivation of it does... macOS.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
  #38  
Old June 1st 18, 11:43 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 14:40:22 +0100, Anonymous wrote:

Doomsdrzej explained :
On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 05:53:42 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
wrote:

In article
Anonymous wrote:

https://betanews.com/2018/05/31/consumer-privacy-concerns/

When it comes to android apps, just get a firewall and block the
apps wifi and cell access. I personally use NoRoot Firewall

Why not do it correctly and just remove the appropriate app
permissions...?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hirts.firewall

You can easily block each app individually. The only thing is,
you have stop the firewall to download something from the google
store or use a browser. Then just restart it.

Riiight. That's linux thinking right there. Don't fix it -
block it and screw up everything while wasting CPU cycles and
battery.

SMH.


Linux, to me, is basically like a used Pontiac which might actually
get you from point A to point B, but requires to be fixed on a
monthly basis.


Patently ridiculous statement. He obviously doesn't even have a
driver's license. You have to have a Class A driver's license anyway
to drive heavy wehicles over 10.5 tons. He has apparenyly at one time
tried to drive a Linux, but couldn't even get it into first gear. He
filled the fuel tanks with gasoline also, not knowing it runs on
diesel. This caused him to immediately give up on Linux and crawl
back to Windows.


What a stupid analogy.

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  #39  
Old June 1st 18, 11:44 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:16:07 +0100, Mike Easter wrote:

ooze wrote:
I'll be honest with you though: I don't like any of the operating
systems on the market more than I do Linux. Windows and Mac OS' lack
of customization bother me as well as their insistence on essentially
slowing down the operating system to help manufacturers sell more
computers and processors. Linux is better in that respect despite the
many bugs but it's the attitude of the people using it that constantly
alienates me. You people are like fanatical Muslims in that any word
critical of your operating system is reason enough to behead the
person who speaks it.


Some people obsess on 'my OS is better than your OS' wars. Personally I
got over that after the Atari ST vs Amiga wars.

Many many people use both Win and linux for one thing and another; and
Chrome OS and/or android for another thing or other.

There is more than one tool in the box.


I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses. More programs available (no I won't say "apps", those are for phones), more help available, more compatibility with everyone, ....

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  #40  
Old June 1st 18, 11:44 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-06-01, Snit wrote:
On 6/1/18 3:21 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2018-06-01, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote:

In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

The BSDs have much to recommend them but Linux tends to have better
hardware and application support.

no it definitely does not.

Just don't bother to tell us that you can't read. Because that is way beyond
your capabilities


Good luck in booting BSDs on recent hardware


Well, a derivation of it does... macOS.


macOS works only on Apple harwdware. No AMD.



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  #41  
Old June 1st 18, 11:57 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Melzzzzz
wrote:


Good luck in booting BSDs on recent hardware


Well, a derivation of it does... macOS.


macOS works only on Apple harwdware. No AMD.


it works on non-apple hardware, including amd, although requires a
little tweaking.
  #42  
Old June 1st 18, 11:57 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Jimmy Wilkinson Knife
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I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses. More programs available


yep

(no I won't say "apps", those are for phones),


app is short for application, a term that dates back at least to the
80s, probably even earlier

more help available, more
compatibility with everyone, ....


yep
  #43  
Old June 2nd 18, 12:00 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 6/1/18 3:44 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:16:07 +0100, Mike Easter wrote:

ooze wrote:
I'll be honest with you though: I don't like any of the operating
systems on the market more than I do Linux. Windows and Mac OS' lack
of customization bother me as well as their insistence on essentially
slowing down the operating system to help manufacturers sell more
computers and processors. Linux is better in that respect despite the
many bugs but it's the attitude of the people using it that constantly
alienates me. You people are like fanatical Muslims in that any word
critical of your operating system is reason enough to behead the
person who speaks it.


Some people obsess on 'my OS is better than your OS' wars.* Personally I
got over that after the Atari ST vs Amiga wars.

Many many people use both Win and linux for one thing and another; and
Chrome OS and/or android for another thing or other.

There is more than one tool in the box.


I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses.* More programs
available (no I won't say "apps", those are for phones), more help
available, more compatibility with everyone, ....

Use what you like.

I tend to look at quality of tool for the work I do over the popularity
of it... but sometimes those are the same.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
  #44  
Old June 2nd 18, 12:01 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 6/1/18 3:44 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2018-06-01, Snit wrote:
On 6/1/18 3:21 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2018-06-01, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote:

In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

The BSDs have much to recommend them but Linux tends to have better
hardware and application support.

no it definitely does not.

Just don't bother to tell us that you can't read. Because that is way beyond
your capabilities

Good luck in booting BSDs on recent hardware


Well, a derivation of it does... macOS.


macOS works only on Apple harwdware. No AMD.


Correct (well, at least in any licenses way!)


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
  #45  
Old June 2nd 18, 12:03 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Snit[_2_]
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On 6/1/18 3:57 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Jimmy Wilkinson Knife
wrote:


I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses. More programs available


yep

(no I won't say "apps", those are for phones),


app is short for application, a term that dates back at least to the
80s, probably even earlier


Right. It is the term Apple has used since AT LEAST the start of the Mac.

more help available, more
compatibility with everyone, ....


yep



--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
 




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