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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
Paul wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: T wrote: T wrote: T wrote: Anyone have a favorite PCIe USB 3.1 card that actually works right? Siig? I am looking at this one: http://www.siig.com/it-products/usb/...-type-a-c.html But I can not tell which chipset it uses Found it: Chipset: Asmedia ASM1142 Wonder if it works any better than the asmedia 2142? Note the list of operating systems supported by this card at: http://www.siig.com/download/search/...d=JU-P20A12-S1 (when going to your link for the product page, I clicked on Downloads to see what were available for this card.) Windows 7 is not included. Why? SIIG does *not* provide a driver for this card. They rely on the one included in Windows. However, as mentioned in my reply to Paul, Windows 7 only supports up to USB 2.0. Windows 7 does *NOT* natively support USB 3.x, so you cannot use this card with Windows 7. you MUST install a driver in Windows 7 to add USB 3.x, and SIIG doesn't provide one for that card. ASM1142 http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show...&cate_index=98 * Support driver on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 * Support various Linux Kernels ASM2142 http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show...cate_index=175 * Support driver on Windows7, Windows8, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10 * Support various Linux kernels Which implies that (somehow) the "flavor" of the 2142 isn't supported by Windows 10 itself at the moment. However, take these web page things with a grain of salt, because I've seen promises of drivers before on a chip manufacturer site, where in fact no such driver existed. Windows 7 is still in extended support, but companies do whatever the hell they feel like most of the time. It's strange that Siig doesn't offer a driver. Some of Siigs competitors are a bit better about this stuff. I couldn't find drivers at Asmedia's web site, only at the SIIG site but they don't offer one for this SIIG card. As you noted by Asmedia's specs for that controller chip, Windows 7 is supported ... maybe. Be interesting to see if T gets Intel's USB3 drivers to work under Windows 7 for that card. |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
T wrote:
On 06/01/2018 06:38 PM, VanguardLH wrote: T wrote: T wrote: T wrote: Anyone have a favorite PCIe USB 3.1 card that actually works right?* Siig? I am looking at this one: http://www.siig.com/it-products/usb/...-type-a-c.html But I can not tell which chipset it uses Found it: Chipset: Asmedia ASM1142 Wonder if it works any better than the asmedia 2142? Note the list of operating systems supported by this card at: http://www.siig.com/download/search/...d=JU-P20A12-S1 (when going to your link for the product page, I clicked on Downloads to see what were available for this card.) Windows 7 is not included. Why? SIIG does *not* provide a driver for this card. They rely on the one included in Windows. However, as mentioned in my reply to Paul, Windows 7 only supports up to USB 2.0. Windows 7 does *NOT* natively support USB 3.x, so you cannot use this card with Windows 7. you MUST install a driver in Windows 7 to add USB 3.x, and SIIG doesn't provide one for that card. I just will install the chipset drivers from Intel https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25476 That only has a link to their Creator utility that somehow builds a modified ISO image of the Windows 7 install image to install their USB3 driver(s). Sounds pretty much what nLite does, too (once you have the driver files to add to the image). Doesn't look like this tool is a driver installer, like to update Windows 7 to USB3 support. Where are you getting the USB3 drivers from Intel? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/pro...troller-Driver I found some there but they are for specific Intel chipsets. Are you using a mobo with an Intel chipset? If not, you'll have to get AMD's mobo chipset driver that has USB3 support. I didn't find USB-only drivers from AMD's site and their chipset drivers don't describe what all they support in their drivers. I did find: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds030088 http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOT...indows-7.shtml Might be generic enough to work on any AMD chipset mobo. If you get the chip driver from the chip maker, those are reference drivers and may not utilize all of a chip after it is in-circuit on the card due to missing or additional ancillary logic on the board. Best is to see of the mobo (or system maker for pre-builts) have the driver for however they implemented the chip within their card design. You have to hope the mobo or system maker hasn't yet abandoned Windows 7 or they didn't design their product for a later version of Windows so they don't have drivers for the older Windows versions. http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Oth...indows-7.shtml That one doesn't list an AMD chipset. It is a chipset driver bundle, so you might find it listed at AMD's site. |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On 06/01/2018 09:29 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Paul wrote: VanguardLH wrote: T wrote: T wrote: T wrote: Anyone have a favorite PCIe USB 3.1 card that actually works right? Siig? I am looking at this one: http://www.siig.com/it-products/usb/...-type-a-c.html But I can not tell which chipset it uses Found it: Chipset: Asmedia ASM1142 Wonder if it works any better than the asmedia 2142? Note the list of operating systems supported by this card at: http://www.siig.com/download/search/...d=JU-P20A12-S1 (when going to your link for the product page, I clicked on Downloads to see what were available for this card.) Windows 7 is not included. Why? SIIG does *not* provide a driver for this card. They rely on the one included in Windows. However, as mentioned in my reply to Paul, Windows 7 only supports up to USB 2.0. Windows 7 does *NOT* natively support USB 3.x, so you cannot use this card with Windows 7. you MUST install a driver in Windows 7 to add USB 3.x, and SIIG doesn't provide one for that card. ASM1142 http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show...&cate_index=98 * Support driver on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 * Support various Linux Kernels ASM2142 http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show...cate_index=175 * Support driver on Windows7, Windows8, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10 * Support various Linux kernels Which implies that (somehow) the "flavor" of the 2142 isn't supported by Windows 10 itself at the moment. However, take these web page things with a grain of salt, because I've seen promises of drivers before on a chip manufacturer site, where in fact no such driver existed. Windows 7 is still in extended support, but companies do whatever the hell they feel like most of the time. It's strange that Siig doesn't offer a driver. Some of Siigs competitors are a bit better about this stuff. I couldn't find drivers at Asmedia's web site, only at the SIIG site but they don't offer one for this SIIG card. As you noted by Asmedia's specs for that controller chip, Windows 7 is supported ... maybe. Be interesting to see if T gets Intel's USB3 drivers to work under Windows 7 for that card. Crap! I am staring at the requirements: Requirements Desktop computer with one available PCIe slot 4x or larger Windows® 10 (32-/64-bit) / 8.x (32-/64-bit) If I don't get it to work out the box, I will have major egg on my face. I hate when I come across an older system with only USB2 and the customer need a fast backup system. |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On 06/01/2018 09:48 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Where are you getting the USB3 drivers from Intel? I usually get them from the motherboard vendor's web site. Sometimes from Intel. |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On 06/01/2018 10:39 AM, T wrote:
Hi All, Stay away from the Star Tech PEXUSB311AC2 Â*Â*Â* StarTech.com Dual Port USB 3.1 Card – 1x USB-C – 1x Â*Â*Â* USB-A – 10Gbps per port – Expansion Card – USB 3.1 PCI-E Â*Â*Â* Card – USB 3 PCI It crashes your file system on large file transfers and crashes your boot if anything is plugged into it when you boot. Anyone have a favorite PCIe USB 3.1 card that actually works right?Â* Siig? Many thanks, -T Also looking at: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-...pecifications/ It says Windows 7 support, but it has not axillary power connector, so don't attempt to use anything that draws power. What the hell... |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
VanguardLH wrote:
Paul wrote: VanguardLH wrote: T wrote: T wrote: T wrote: Anyone have a favorite PCIe USB 3.1 card that actually works right? Siig? I am looking at this one: http://www.siig.com/it-products/usb/...-type-a-c.html But I can not tell which chipset it uses Found it: Chipset: Asmedia ASM1142 Wonder if it works any better than the asmedia 2142? Note the list of operating systems supported by this card at: http://www.siig.com/download/search/...d=JU-P20A12-S1 (when going to your link for the product page, I clicked on Downloads to see what were available for this card.) Windows 7 is not included. Why? SIIG does *not* provide a driver for this card. They rely on the one included in Windows. However, as mentioned in my reply to Paul, Windows 7 only supports up to USB 2.0. Windows 7 does *NOT* natively support USB 3.x, so you cannot use this card with Windows 7. you MUST install a driver in Windows 7 to add USB 3.x, and SIIG doesn't provide one for that card. ASM1142 http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show...&cate_index=98 * Support driver on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 * Support various Linux Kernels ASM2142 http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show...cate_index=175 * Support driver on Windows7, Windows8, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10 * Support various Linux kernels Which implies that (somehow) the "flavor" of the 2142 isn't supported by Windows 10 itself at the moment. However, take these web page things with a grain of salt, because I've seen promises of drivers before on a chip manufacturer site, where in fact no such driver existed. Windows 7 is still in extended support, but companies do whatever the hell they feel like most of the time. It's strange that Siig doesn't offer a driver. Some of Siigs competitors are a bit better about this stuff. I couldn't find drivers at Asmedia's web site, only at the SIIG site but they don't offer one for this SIIG card. As you noted by Asmedia's specs for that controller chip, Windows 7 is supported ... maybe. Be interesting to see if T gets Intel's USB3 drivers to work under Windows 7 for that card. It almost looks like there is a different stack at work when working with one of those chips (3.1) ? https://plugable.com/2015/03/05/wind...st-controller/ SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (asmtxhci.sys) Looks like a good solid mature technology. Paul |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On 06/01/2018 10:39 AM, T wrote:
Hi All, Stay away from the Star Tech PEXUSB311AC2 Â*Â*Â* StarTech.com Dual Port USB 3.1 Card – 1x USB-C – 1x Â*Â*Â* USB-A – 10Gbps per port – Expansion Card – USB 3.1 PCI-E Â*Â*Â* Card – USB 3 PCI It crashes your file system on large file transfers and crashes your boot if anything is plugged into it when you boot. Anyone have a favorite PCIe USB 3.1 card that actually works right?Â* Siig? Many thanks, -T If I move down to 3.0, I get http://www.siig.com/it-products/usb/...-3-0-pcie.html with w7 support and a sata power connector |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
T wrote:
Crap! I am staring at the requirements: Requirements Desktop computer with one available PCIe slot 4x or larger Windows® 10 (32-/64-bit) / 8.x (32-/64-bit) If I don't get it to work out the box, I will have major egg on my face. I hate when I come across an older system with only USB2 and the customer need a fast backup system. Does the mobo support eSATA (on which you could use a shielded SATA cable)? Does the external drive's enclosure have both USB2/3 and eSATA ports? If it has eSATA, go with that. You sure the external USB-attached drive supports USB3? Else, you'd spend time and money adding USB3 to the computer but the external drive can't use it. USB2 is [theoretically] 480 Mbps. Does the customer's computer have a NIC that can support 1 Gbps? If so, how about a NAS drive? Obviously the customer cannot swamp their network with traffic due to the collision detection and conflict handling of the Ethernet protocol. If he downloads huge files from the Internet or passed them between his intranet hosts, issues huge print jobs, or otherwises dumps on his network then the NAS drive will get slower because its portion of the remaining bandwidth gets smaller. USB2 is 0.48 Gbps. NAS would be 1 Gbps. USB3 would be 5 Gbps. eSATA would be 6 Gbps. What is an option and feasible depends on whether the exiting USB2 external drive must continue being used or if different external storage media is permitted. Have you tried the Intel drivers (if the mobo has an Intel chipset) in Windows 7 to see if you can get the Asmedia card to work properly? Seems you were willing to try them with an unknown candidate replacement card. |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
T wrote:
If I move down to 3.0, I get http://www.siig.com/it-products/usb/...-3-0-pcie.html with w7 support and a sata power connector You would only be moving down from USB 3.1 (10 Gbps) *if* the external USB-attached drive also supports USB 3.1. Does it? Maybe it's just a USB 3.0 device, so it'll max out at 5 Gbps (which is theoretical and never obtainable) even when connected to a USB 3.1 port. Also, while it mentions a PCI-e slot as a requirement, there's no mention if it can only use a PCI-e 1x slot (the short one) or what PCI-e slot type it can use. The PCI-e 1x slot only has 1 lane. If you're using only one of the card's ports then the 1 lane is okay. If you attach another USB device to the card, effective bandwidth goes down since the 2 devices on 1 lane will contend with other. After looking at the product page and the photo there, the connector on this card is just PCI-e 1x. Guess you're supposed to know from the pic of the card to see you are limited to 1 lane connector (as I recall, you can plug a 1x card into the larger/longer PCI-e slots but you're wasting their lanes). Know what mobo is in the computer? Does it have a PCI-e 1x slot? And is that slot unfettered? That is, is that slot currently available? I have a fat video card that occupies 2 PCI-e slots. This blocks the only PCI-e 1x slot on my mobo (some Acer model in a pre-built that I salvaged from a friend that didn't want to fix it as an excuse to get a better gaming computer). Even if I managed to slide a card into the PCI-e 1x slot, the back cage slot for it is already used up by the fat video card. If the customer has no need for decent 3D graphics (they don't play video games or using drawing programs, like Photoshop or AutoCAD), and just use the onboard video controller (if the Intel CPU has it) the the PCI-e 1x slot should be free and usabled (not free but unusable as my setup). |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On 01/06/2018 18:39, T wrote:
Hi All, Stay away from the Star Tech PEXUSB311AC2 Â*Â*Â* StarTech.com Dual Port USB 3.1 Card – 1x USB-C – 1x Â*Â*Â* USB-A – 10Gbps per port – Expansion Card – USB 3.1 PCI-E Â*Â*Â* Card – USB 3 PCI It crashes your file system on large file transfers and crashes your boot if anything is plugged into it when you boot. Anyone have a favorite PCIe USB 3.1 card that actually works right?Â* Siig? Many thanks, -T On W7, I have the likes of this; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB3-0-2-...EAAOSwo4pYfykP It came with a min-disk that had several drivers (Setup.exe type) on, (turns out to have a VIA chip). The blue socket is for a twin front panel USB3 socket. I had a little difficulty with the bracket that didn't quite stretch to the case (had to bend it a little). There is also a similar version of the same with all 4 USB3 sockets at the back; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCI-E-USB...AOSwBSxbDCn j |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 02:49:39 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
USB2 is [theoretically] 480 Mbps. Does the customer's computer have a NIC that can support 1 Gbps? If so, how about a NAS drive? Obviously the customer cannot swamp their network with traffic due to the collision detection and conflict handling of the Ethernet protocol. If he downloads huge files from the Internet or passed them between his intranet hosts, issues huge print jobs, or otherwises dumps on his network then the NAS drive will get slower because its portion of the remaining bandwidth gets smaller. If there's a concern about bandwidth exhaustion, as described above, I'd just install a second 1gig NIC. Even good ones are cheap these days. Connect the new NIC directly to the NAS, effectively removing backup traffic from the primary LAN. Any Ethernet cable is fine, no crossover needed. If multiple computers need to be backed up using the 'backup LAN', add a 2nd NIC to each of them and stick a Gig switch in the middle to make the physical connections. Problem solved. Not explicitly stated, but hopefully obvious, configure the 2nd NICs and the NAS to use a subnet different from the primary LAN. No default gateway needed. USB2 is 0.48 Gbps. NAS would be 1 Gbps. USB3 would be 5 Gbps. eSATA would be 6 Gbps. USB3.1 Type C has 10gig versions. I haven't seen a NAS that supports that yet, but I haven't checked. They could be out there, at a price. -- Char Jackson |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 02:49:39 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: USB2 is [theoretically] 480 Mbps. Does the customer's computer have a NIC that can support 1 Gbps? If so, how about a NAS drive? Obviously the customer cannot swamp their network with traffic due to the collision detection and conflict handling of the Ethernet protocol. If he downloads huge files from the Internet or passed them between his intranet hosts, issues huge print jobs, or otherwises dumps on his network then the NAS drive will get slower because its portion of the remaining bandwidth gets smaller. If there's a concern about bandwidth exhaustion, as described above, I'd just install a second 1gig NIC. Even good ones are cheap these days. Connect the new NIC directly to the NAS, effectively removing backup traffic from the primary LAN. Any Ethernet cable is fine, no crossover needed. If multiple computers need to be backed up using the 'backup LAN', add a 2nd NIC to each of them and stick a Gig switch in the middle to make the physical connections. Problem solved. Not explicitly stated, but hopefully obvious, configure the 2nd NICs and the NAS to use a subnet different from the primary LAN. No default gateway needed. USB2 is 0.48 Gbps. NAS would be 1 Gbps. USB3 would be 5 Gbps. eSATA would be 6 Gbps. USB3.1 Type C has 10gig versions. I haven't seen a NAS that supports that yet, but I haven't checked. They could be out there, at a price. There's Thunderbolt II at 20Gbit/sec. (Usual nonsense at the bottom of the page, about some motherboard dependency. Intel is the king of bundleware.) https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboa...nderboltEX_II/ There's also Thunderbolt III at 40gbit/sec. (This one uses a special cable that looks like a USB2 or something. The cable doesn't look especially high tech.) The I/O cable from one of these, can only be a yard long or so. The previous one supports a longer cable. https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboa...underboltEX-3/ Apparently, the higher the datarate, the more a "sacrifice of your first born" is required to get it to work. And a comment I could find from a mere user who tested both, is the EX_II one "works", while the EX-3 one can "get into boot loops". There's a very specific order for driver installation (driver is installed before you fit the card). You can smell the "fresh baked tech from the lab" on these things. Or is that "half-baked". The Apple ecosystem should have some NAS entries with that connector on it. At this point, bog-standard USB3.0 at ~400MB/sec is looking pretty good. I checked my local computer store online, and their stock of USB3.1 cards is zero. Must be a very popular seller. Or, my last computer store is about to go out of business or something. I don't understand how you can pretend to be a "bricks and mortar", without any mortar. Won't the bricks fall over if nothing holds them up ? If they go under, I'll be left with "Best Buy" :-\ Yikes. Paul |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 20:44:37 -0400, Paul wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 02:49:39 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: USB2 is [theoretically] 480 Mbps. Does the customer's computer have a NIC that can support 1 Gbps? If so, how about a NAS drive? Obviously the customer cannot swamp their network with traffic due to the collision detection and conflict handling of the Ethernet protocol. If he downloads huge files from the Internet or passed them between his intranet hosts, issues huge print jobs, or otherwises dumps on his network then the NAS drive will get slower because its portion of the remaining bandwidth gets smaller. If there's a concern about bandwidth exhaustion, as described above, I'd just install a second 1gig NIC. Even good ones are cheap these days. Connect the new NIC directly to the NAS, effectively removing backup traffic from the primary LAN. Any Ethernet cable is fine, no crossover needed. If multiple computers need to be backed up using the 'backup LAN', add a 2nd NIC to each of them and stick a Gig switch in the middle to make the physical connections. Problem solved. Not explicitly stated, but hopefully obvious, configure the 2nd NICs and the NAS to use a subnet different from the primary LAN. No default gateway needed. USB2 is 0.48 Gbps. NAS would be 1 Gbps. USB3 would be 5 Gbps. eSATA would be 6 Gbps. USB3.1 Type C has 10gig versions. I haven't seen a NAS that supports that yet, but I haven't checked. They could be out there, at a price. There's Thunderbolt II at 20Gbit/sec. (Usual nonsense at the bottom of the page, about some motherboard dependency. Intel is the king of bundleware.) https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboa...nderboltEX_II/ There's also Thunderbolt III at 40gbit/sec. (This one uses a special cable that looks like a USB2 or something. The cable doesn't look especially high tech.) The I/O cable from one of these, can only be a yard long or so. The previous one supports a longer cable. https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboa...underboltEX-3/ Apparently, the higher the datarate, the more a "sacrifice of your first born" is required to get it to work. And a comment I could find from a mere user who tested both, is the EX_II one "works", while the EX-3 one can "get into boot loops". There's a very specific order for driver installation (driver is installed before you fit the card). You can smell the "fresh baked tech from the lab" on these things. Or is that "half-baked". The Apple ecosystem should have some NAS entries with that connector on it. At this point, bog-standard USB3.0 at ~400MB/sec is looking pretty good. I checked my local computer store online, and their stock of USB3.1 cards is zero. Must be a very popular seller. Or, my last computer store is about to go out of business or something. I don't understand how you can pretend to be a "bricks and mortar", without any mortar. Won't the bricks fall over if nothing holds them up ? If they go under, I'll be left with "Best Buy" :-\ Yikes. The last bricks-and-mortar computer store that I visited was a MicroCenter in about 2003/2004. After that, I did about 10 years exclusively with Newegg, and since then I'm 90/10 with Amazon and Newegg. We have Best Buy stores around here, the nearest about 10-15 minutes away, but I haven't been in there. Amazon seems to know what they're doing. With Prime, I'd always select 2-day free shipping, and shipments would take the full two days because they'd come from Memphis, Indianapolis, or Phoenix, in decreasing order. Then Amazon built a warehouse about 4-5 miles from my house, as the crow flies. So now 2-day free shipping usually arrives the next day, or if I order before about 10AM most shipments arrive the same day. They even deliver on Saturdays and Sundays. Returns are the easiest of any vendor, as well. A couple of mouse clicks, print the return label, and put the package outside for UPS to pick up. Speaking of fast delivery, Amazon has their new 1-hour delivery option available in my area, but I've never used it. They deliver to a special locker at UPS stores and give you the combo so you can walk in, dial the combo, grab your stuff, and leave. I have two of those delivery locations within 15 minutes of the house. I suppose drone delivery will be the next step. It's hard for B&M to compete, except as a product showroom. -- Char Jackson |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
Char Jackson wrote:
The last bricks-and-mortar computer store that I visited was a MicroCenter in about 2003/2004. After that, I did about 10 years exclusively with Newegg, and since then I'm 90/10 with Amazon and Newegg. We have Best Buy stores around here, the nearest about 10-15 minutes away, but I haven't been in there. A big advantage of bricks-and-mortar stores is that you can actually see and feel the products, like mice, keyboards, and monitors, to know what they are really like. Specifications cannot not relay to your senses just what the product is really like. I remember believing the specs on a mousepad that was supposed to be super accurate but found it had much higher friction which made moving the mouse around more difficult. Specs won't tell you how well a mouse fits in the pit of your palm, or the stiffness of keys on a keyboard. I/O devices are something personal so seeing or feeling them can made a difference in your decision of which to buy. Alas, the bricks-and-mortar stores have a more limited inventory that they keep in stock inside their stores. Sometimes even from them you have to order from their online store. For example, no Home Depot stores carry the Frigidaire window air conditioners but you can order them from their online store (and for cheaper than Walmart on the model that I wanted). Amazon seems to know what they're doing. With Prime, ... Prime requires a paid subscription: $13/month or $199/year. Uffdah! https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Prime-.../dp/B00DBYBNEE Yes, Prime includes unlimited music streaming. Worthless to me as I don't often listen to music. Don't need their unlimited online photo storage, either. Google Drive and OneDrive as well as other sites are free to store any filetype. I'm not sure how "free same-day delivery" could be guaranteed except for those locations where they operation a distribution warehouse and delivery is local to that warehouse. Besides, I rarely need a product RIGHT NOW and if I did then I'd pay the high-priced overnight delivery on a one-time basis instead of getting suckered into a recurring monthly or yearly subscription. I don't need to pay extra to get items from Newegg that list "free shipping". I've found Amazon has far less sellers offering free shipping. Sometimes I find Newegg doesn't carry something that Amazon does so I'm forced to use Amazon - unless I can find it on eBay and with free shipping from a reputable seller along with eBay's buyer protection (which I have used a few times). I've found lots more eBay sellers offering free shipping (just make sure they list a distribution location in your country or one that doesn't have slow customs, like ordering stuff from China to ship to the USA which results in a 45-day lag) than at Amazon. With eBay you expect sellers to be far flung in location. Users often believe they are buying from Amazon or Newegg because that's where they visit the "store". Both Amazon and Newegg (and other sites, like Walmart) offer "storefronts" to 3rd party sellers. You have to be careful from WHERE you buy if you want decent returns processing. At Newegg, I elect the option to look at items only sold by Newegg. At Walmart, I select them as the seller (unless they don't carry the item). At Amazon, there is no filter or option to see items sold only by Amazon (does Amazon actually sell anything themself?). At eBay, I select only those sellers in my own country or from where I know shipping time is short (no customs delay). At Amazon, no such filtering options: only from Amazon, only in my country, only whatever. About all the filtering you get at Amazon is new or used. I have an account at Amazon and have ordered from there but only when the product cannot be obtained from elsewhere for cheaper. Shipping cost usually precludes buying from Amazon, especially for the small items. One of the reasons that I order, say, keyboards through Walmart is I can return it to any of their stores if I don't like it. I've had to go through about 6 orders through Walmart to finally get a keyboard to my liking. With Newegg or Amazon, the returned item has to get shipped back. Didn't have to waste that time when I could go into a real store and see and feel the products. I knew what I was getting instead of relying on photos, specifications, and user reviews. As for Best Buy, I end up using their online store a lot because they do not carry all the same items in their physical stores. I can, however, return back to the store, just as with Walmart and Home Depot, to get an immediate refund. I like Newegg and have used Amazon (but definitely won't be paying for their pricey Prime service) but I have to ship back for a return. |
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Anyone have a good PCIe USB 3.1 card they like?
On 06/02/2018 12:49 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Does the mobo support eSATA one port problem with eSata. Windows does not have the cool tools for mount, unmount, and eject as does Linux. So, the customer has to plug it in and leave it. eSata ain't portable under Windows. Sure there are utilities for that, but they suck. Does the external drive's enclosure have both USB2/3 and eSATA ports? If it has eSATA, go with that. I can get one from the g-tech legacy store USB2 is [theoretically] 480 Mbps. I my experience, USB2 is so slow the customer will back up once and never do it again. Does the customer's computer have a NIC that can support 1 Gbps? 100 Base-T only If so, how about a NAS drive? Good in theory. Haven't found a NAS I have thought wasn't cheap s***. You have a good one? Have you tried the Intel drivers (if the mobo has an Intel chipset) in Windows 7 to see if you can get the Asmedia card to work properly? Asmedia is not an Intel product, so I am probably wrong about using the Intel drivers. I was a ticket in with Siig over the matter |
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