Those idiot password changes

Chris on Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:56:26 -0000 (UTC)
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
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Now all I need is a record of all the various passwords, with a
strong password needed to access it.

that's called a password manager.

One more program to download, install, setup and configure.

hardly an obstacle. maybe a minute, if that long.

"The slothful man saith, There is a lion without, I shall be slain
in the streets."

I think I'll stick with a paper notebook.

not as safe, plus you're far less likely to use long cryptic passwords
because they're hard to type.

But then again, I don't have to worry about the notebook being
"hacked".

You do have worry about not having it with you when you need it, though.

Considering that I don't use the "device" for anything requiring a
login...

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pyotr filipivich wrote:
Chris on Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:56:26 -0000 (UTC)
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
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In article , pyotr
filipivich wrote:

Now all I need is a record of all the various passwords, with a
strong password needed to access it.

that's called a password manager.

One more program to download, install, setup and configure.

hardly an obstacle. maybe a minute, if that long.

"The slothful man saith, There is a lion without, I shall be slain
in the streets."

I think I'll stick with a paper notebook.

not as safe, plus you're far less likely to use long cryptic passwords
because they're hard to type.

But then again, I don't have to worry about the notebook being
"hacked".

You do have worry about not having it with you when you need it, though.

Considering that I don't use the "device" for anything requiring a
login...

Then what's the paper notebook for?

Wolf K
Wed, 13 Jun 2018 01:30:01 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On 2018-06-12 20:45, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , T
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Hi w10 and w7,

I have been bitching about this for ages.

Time to rethink mandatory password changes

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blog...03/time-rethin
k-manda tory-password-changes

If you pick a good solid password that is not hacked by the
bad guys first attempt at running tables at you, why change
your password just to give him a second chance to
find you in his tables?Â* Changing your passwords constantly is
not a good security feature.

Agreed.

Keep in mind though that picking an easy password is even worse.
The best ones are run on phrases.Â* Mine are up to 30
characters.

Well, best as a combination of security and chance that you'll
remember them. Best for security alone are as near totally random
as you can get, but they're going to be impossible to remember.

-T

A good source of phrases is your own history. Eg, this sequence
derives from a couple of sentences about my life:
mbswbligsihttttfthomtbaf. Convert a few letters to numerics or
capitals, and may look "as near totally random" as you desi
mbswb11gs1HtTttft60Mt6af


Would the word flmwombat have any meaning to you?


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pyotr filipivich
Thu, 14 Jun 2018
00:25:48 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:


One of the catch phrases of the program was "Your program
should be able to handle having the cat walk across the keyboard
without crashing in flames."

That to me is a solid practice which typically results in a stable
program.

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Keith Nuttle
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Windows accepts a nul character for a password. Using a nul
character, your system logs in and you do not need to enter a
password.

Windows treats it as if no password is present on the account. As
technically, there isn't at that point.

I have three computers, and non have passwords. One never leaves
the upstairs studio, and only my wife and I live in this house.

I have several computers myself. Not only do they all have passwords,
each one is unique. So, in the event someone was able to guess? the
correct password for one machine, they aren't going to automatically
have carte blanche access to all of the machines using the password
they discovered.

It's highly unlikely they'd guess one of them anyway. I like to refer
to this as a piece of building compartmentalized and/or confined
breach security practices for my own network and those i'm
responsible for.

While my laptop travels it is never left anywhere, and my tablet
has nothing worth stealing.

Don't sell yourself so short so quickly. Your tablet has a processor
which may be capable of mining various types of crypto currency. That
may be of value to a botnet or sketchy website script that abuses
your resources while you visit the site. The website script option
actually gives the bad guy more victims in the sense it's not OS
dependent like the program for the botnet would be. Linux/Mac/Windows
users would all potentially be able to run the bad script without
modification of the script for each OS/platform.


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wryutirjgkhmmfioertuyie
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As an aside: My neighbors wife had her car broken into at work.
The perps took her garage door opener and car registration for her
address. They drove to her house opened the garage door, drove in,
shut the door, and took their time removing all her electronics
among other things. I walked by while it was happening and was
unaware. Moral to this story? Hide your garage door opener and/or
remove your address from any documents in your car.

That really stinks. Are you suggesting that people should keep their
registration on themselves instead of inside the vehicle at all times?
Along with insurance proof, etc? Otherwise, I can't see how you'd be
able to remove all documents containing your physical address and still
be completely legal.

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T news 2018 15:46:19 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On 06/13/2018 03:39 PM, wryutirjgkhmmfioertuyie wrote:
On 6/13/2018 11:19 AM, T wrote:

Any a** h*** who breaks into my or my neighbors better be able
to run a lot faster than 800 feet per second.

Problem is burglars check to see if you're home before breaking
in. Thus there's usually nobody there to shoot at when you get
home and find your stuff missing.


True. It also helps to have nosey neighbors. The bad guys
stay away.

That's one good reason to have nosey neighbors. ;p Sometimes, the lack
of your own privacy can be a benefit as you know your house is being
watched all the time. lol.

No neighbors can be bliss too, though. Just sayin.

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VanguardLH Wed, 13
Jun 2018 03:21:10 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

Don't save passwords in software (e.g., web browsers) other than
on the hosts to which only you have physical access.

That's still a bad idea, imho. Malware and/or user error could result
in the transmission of the file containing the login details for each
site the browser was told to remember.


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pyotr filipivich
Thu, 14 Jun 2018
00:25:48 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

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In article , pyotr
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Now all I need is a record of all the various passwords, with a
strong password needed to access it.

that's called a password manager.

One more program to download, install, setup and configure.

I've been very pleased with Keepass myself. It also allows you to use
a file as part of the encryption/decryption process. So you can enter
not only a passphrase but pick a file on your hard disk or removable
media and it'll be locked to both. Without both, a 'bad guy' who's
copied the encrypted file containing the database keepass uses won't
be able to do anything with it.

I personally use the v1.x series of Keepass, not the v2.x generation.
v2.x isn't a replacement for the v1.x series, it's essentially a
rewrite to support features some requested. For myself, I don't need
them. If you'd like to know the differences:
https://keepass.info/compare.html



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Paul news Jun 2018 05:14:10 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

[snip]

I learned about this sort of thing, from a tape
drive at work. People were making a ton of backups
at their desk, with a loaner 8mm helical scan drive.
I asked about "when was the last time that thing
had a cleaning tape", and I got this blank look.
When we inserted the stack of tapes, one at a time,
all the tapes were *blank*. That's how dirty the
heads were. Just because you're holding a tape in
your hand, doesn't mean there is anything on it.
That's where Verify comes in. While hard drives
are not tape drives, there's still value in Verify.

Paul


+10! Preach it Brother Paul!


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On 6/18/2018 10:22 PM, Diesel wrote:
wryutirjgkhmmfioertuyie
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As an aside: My neighbors wife had her car broken into at work. The
perps took her garage door opener and car registration for her
address. They drove to her house opened the garage door, drove in,
shut the door, and took their time removing all her electronics
among other things. I walked by while it was happening and was
unaware. Moral to this story? Hide your garage door opener and/or
remove your address from any documents in your car.

That really stinks. Are you suggesting that people should keep
their registration on themselves instead of inside the vehicle at all
times?

Since registration is required to be in the car I make a convenient
"accidental" tear that obliterates a few numbers of my address on the
document. It's likely unnecessary these days since both my current
vehicles have built in (non-removable) garage door openers.

Along with insurance proof, etc? Otherwise, I can't see how you'd be
able to remove all documents containing your physical address and
still be completely legal.

My proof of insurance form doesn't have my address on it. And I keep no
other documents in the car. YMMV.

(Ant)
Thu, 14 Jun 2018
19:47:04 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

In alt.windows7.general T wrote:
On 06/14/2018 11:57 AM, Nil wrote:
On 14 Jun 2018, T wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I have noticed this. If I eMail certain customer explanations
of thing they solicit from me, they won't read it if it goes
over two sentences.

This is REALLY AGGRAVATING when they ask for proposals. They
just discard them after you put hours into them. I have
thought of charging for my time. "I couldn't read it on
my phone". "And you could use your computer, why?"
AGGRAVATING!

I believe this phenomenon has its own acronym: TLDR. People no
longer have the patience or attention span to read or absorb
detailed information. Everything has to be fed to them in
small, pre-digested bites.

This has become a problem in general. If I write anything more
than a paragraph of text, many (most?) people won't bother to
scroll down and read the rest. If I ask, say, 3 questions, I'll
get an answer to the first one and they probably never even see
the last two.

My family has become like this. They won't completely read my
emails, and they rarely answer the phone. They respond to text
messaging only, which is totally inadequate for real
communication.

My experience too.

That first question thing drives me INSANE! My vendors do
this to me ALL-THE-TIME.

Sometimes there is the occasional "word wall", which is
frustrating to grudge through, but that is rare these days.

Ditto. They always think it is too long to read. [sighs]

Cripes. They probably wouldn't want to review any of the technical
manuals etc that you held in your hand. You remember those right?
They had paper and printed words on it. [g] And depending on the
technical level and/or the subject matter, may or may not have
included pictures. Diagrams and schematics more likely. [g]




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Nil
Thu, 14 Jun 2018
18:57:28 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

They respond to text messaging only, which is totally inadequate
for real communication.

I was discussing this very issue with a co worker today. We both agreed
that texting just doesn't work for real communications.


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Diesel wrote:
Nil
Thu, 14 Jun 2018
18:57:28 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

They respond to text messaging only, which is totally inadequate
for real communication.

I was discussing this very issue with a co worker today. We both agreed
that texting just doesn't work for real communications.

What on earth is "real" communication? We have been changing our forms of
communication for hundreds of years, texting is just another option. It's
perfectly possible to communicate via text - millions do it every day.

Chris news Jun 2018 07:41:25 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

Diesel wrote:
Nil
Thu, 14 Jun 2018
18:57:28 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

They respond to text messaging only, which is totally
inadequate for real communication.

I was discussing this very issue with a co worker today. We both
agreed that texting just doesn't work for real communications.

What on earth is "real" communication?

Complete communication. You can't represent body language or emotion
reliably over text based communications.

We have been changing our forms of communication for hundreds of
years, texting is just

In some respects we have yes. However, our primary method of
communication as a species is still performed by reading body
language and emotion. Neither of which communicates well over text
based communications systems, past or present.

another option. It's perfectly possible to communicate via text -
millions do it every day.

I don't believe anyone stated otherwise. It's one thing to
communicate and another to have a complete conversation.If you need
specific answers to specific questions which require nothing more
than a technical response, text based communications of all kinds
typically serve that purpose well.

If you're having a 'heart to heart' discussion, text based
communications platforms are not the most efficient or reliable
manner in which to do that. You cannot read body language (at all)
and it's difficult to accurately pickup on emotions via text as well.

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