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Old September 17th 18, 09:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Replacing the old winhlp32.exe file?

I have several ancient but still useful programs whose Help file does
not work.(It opens the top level Microsoft Support page!)

I understand from this post
https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...dows-10-a.html
that the fix requires replacing the existing winhlp32.exe file by a new
one, which I've downloaded. But Win 10 requires permissions to be
changed from 'TrustedInstaller' to achieve that. This article explains
how:
https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/w...stedinstaller/

I'm trying to do so, but fail at the step shown he
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bghtvllj8h...LP-1.jpg?raw=1
This is what mine displays:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zilyt1qwk...LP-2.jpg?raw=1

How do others overcome this problem please? Or is the consensus to leave
those permissions alone and instead use some second best method, such as
converting the HLP file to CHM. Or even just using a PDF user guide if
there is one.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Old September 17th 18, 10:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ralph Fox
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Default Replacing the old winhlp32.exe file?

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:52:15 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

I have several ancient but still useful programs whose Help file does
not work.(It opens the top level Microsoft Support page!)

I understand from this post
https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...dows-10-a.html
that the fix requires replacing the existing winhlp32.exe file by a new
one, which I've downloaded. But Win 10 requires permissions to be
changed from 'TrustedInstaller' to achieve that. This article explains
how:
https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/w...stedinstaller/

I'm trying to do so, but fail at the step shown he
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bghtvllj8h...LP-1.jpg?raw=1
This is what mine displays:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zilyt1qwk...LP-2.jpg?raw=1

How do others overcome this problem please?



Look just above the tabs. The owner is between the tabs and the title bar.
Next to the owner is a blue link "change". You click that link to "take
ownership, i.e. to change ownership to whichever account you want to have
"take" the ownership.

For replacing winhlp32.exe you would take ownership of the winhlp32.exe
file, not the system32 folder. The winhlp32.exe file is also in C:\Windows,
not system32.


Or is the consensus to leave
those permissions alone and instead use some second best method, such as
converting the HLP file to CHM.


AFAIK you will not find an easy tool for converting HLP to CHM.

Or even just using a PDF user guide if
there is one.



If you set the Windows associations to associate *.hlp files with
another program which can read them [1], you will be able to
double-click the *.hlp file and read it.

This method does not let the XYZ program's "Help" menu open the
XYZ.hlp file, because the "Help" function does not use file
associations.

[1] Such as a fully functional winhlp32.exe file


Terry, East Grinstead, UK



--
Kind regards
Ralph
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Old September 17th 18, 11:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default Replacing the old winhlp32.exe file?

Terry Pinnell wrote:

I have several ancient but still useful programs whose Help file does
not work.


SumatraPDF will open .chm files, not sure if it can handle .hlp files
too, I don't knowingly have any left ...

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Old September 17th 18, 03:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Replacing the old winhlp32.exe file?

Ralph Fox wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:52:15 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

I have several ancient but still useful programs whose Help file does
not work.(It opens the top level Microsoft Support page!)

I understand from this post
https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...dows-10-a.html
that the fix requires replacing the existing winhlp32.exe file by a new
one, which I've downloaded. But Win 10 requires permissions to be
changed from 'TrustedInstaller' to achieve that. This article explains
how:
https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/w...stedinstaller/

I'm trying to do so, but fail at the step shown he
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bghtvllj8h...LP-1.jpg?raw=1
This is what mine displays:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zilyt1qwk...LP-2.jpg?raw=1

How do others overcome this problem please?



Look just above the tabs. The owner is between the tabs and the title bar.
Next to the owner is a blue link "change". You click that link to "take
ownership, i.e. to change ownership to whichever account you want to have
"take" the ownership.

For replacing winhlp32.exe you would take ownership of the winhlp32.exe
file, not the system32 folder. The winhlp32.exe file is also in C:\Windows,
not system32.


Or is the consensus to leave
those permissions alone and instead use some second best method, such as
converting the HLP file to CHM.


AFAIK you will not find an easy tool for converting HLP to CHM.

Or even just using a PDF user guide if
there is one.



If you set the Windows associations to associate *.hlp files with
another program which can read them [1], you will be able to
double-click the *.hlp file and read it.

This method does not let the XYZ program's "Help" menu open the
XYZ.hlp file, because the "Help" function does not use file
associations.

[1] Such as a fully functional winhlp32.exe file


Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Excellent, thanks Ralph. Success followed, albeit after several failed
choices of 'Object' and/or 'Name' and difficulties with the subsequent
steps to apply Full Control.

I have not applied any association to HLP files.

Clicking the Help menu now does what it always did 20 years ago: brings
up a Help menu.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Old September 17th 18, 03:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Replacing the old winhlp32.exe file?

Andy Burns wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:

I have several ancient but still useful programs whose Help file does
not work.


SumatraPDF will open .chm files, not sure if it can handle .hlp files
too, I don't knowingly have any left ...


Thanks Andy. I see its exceptionally large repertoire, but I'd have been
surprised as well as impressed if it could read HLP files too.
https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/doc...t-formats.html

SumatraPDF reader supports the following document types:

PDF (.pdf)
eBook formats:
unencrypted EPUB (.epub)
MOBI (.mobi)
Fiction Wise (.fb2, .fb2z, .zfb2)
..pdb (Palm DOC format)
..tcr
comic book files: .cbz, .cbr, .cbt, .cb7z
DjVu (.djv, .djvu)
Microsoft Compiled HTML Html (.chm)
XPS (.xps)
Images (.tga, .gif, .jpg, .j2k, .png, .webp, .tiff)

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Old September 17th 18, 07:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mike[_10_]
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Default Replacing the old winhlp32.exe file?

On 9/17/2018 1:52 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I have several ancient but still useful programs whose Help file does
not work.(It opens the top level Microsoft Support page!)

I understand from this post
https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...dows-10-a.html
that the fix requires replacing the existing winhlp32.exe file by a new
one, which I've downloaded. But Win 10 requires permissions to be
changed from 'TrustedInstaller' to achieve that. This article explains
how:
https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/w...stedinstaller/

I'm trying to do so, but fail at the step shown he
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bghtvllj8h...LP-1.jpg?raw=1
This is what mine displays:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zilyt1qwk...LP-2.jpg?raw=1

How do others overcome this problem please? Or is the consensus to leave
those permissions alone and instead use some second best method, such as
converting the HLP file to CHM. Or even just using a PDF user guide if
there is one.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


I've found this very helpful in such situations:

https://www.sordum.org/9416/powerrun...st-privileges/
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Old September 18th 18, 08:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Replacing the old winhlp32.exe file?

mike wrote:

On 9/17/2018 1:52 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
I have several ancient but still useful programs whose Help file does
not work.(It opens the top level Microsoft Support page!)

I understand from this post
https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...dows-10-a.html
that the fix requires replacing the existing winhlp32.exe file by a new
one, which I've downloaded. But Win 10 requires permissions to be
changed from 'TrustedInstaller' to achieve that. This article explains
how:
https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/w...stedinstaller/

I'm trying to do so, but fail at the step shown he
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bghtvllj8h...LP-1.jpg?raw=1
This is what mine displays:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zilyt1qwk...LP-2.jpg?raw=1

How do others overcome this problem please? Or is the consensus to leave
those permissions alone and instead use some second best method, such as
converting the HLP file to CHM. Or even just using a PDF user guide if
there is one.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


I've found this very helpful in such situations:

https://www.sordum.org/9416/powerrun...st-privileges/


Thanks Mike. I'm happy to have solved the immediate issue. But if/when I
encounter another file that demands 'TrustedInstaller' permission then
I'll try that interesting PowerRun tool.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 




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