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  #46  
Old January 3rd 10, 05:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia
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"Bert Coules" wrote in message
o.uk...
Ophelia wrote:

You can choose between colours and transparent.


Thanks for the reply. I've not found that option. Where is it, and what
does it actually affect?


heh, now you are asking) I shall have to try and remember what I did. I
am feeling my way along here but I shall have
a wee look and report back

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  #47  
Old January 3rd 10, 05:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Emrys Davies
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I know that Internet Explorer 8 is a component of Windows 7, but

what is
Windows Explorer a component of, if anything, and does it have a

number?


Windows Explorer, (Win + E key), is a portal that lets you view your
system files and programs. No number and although it is a part of

every
Windows operating systems, the word "component" doesn't feel right.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Glad I asked that. You have made it easy for me to understand its use.
Thanks. This has been a most useful thread for me. I am now starting
to study Windows 7 Tutorial for beginners just to get a feel of what to
expect when I get my new machine.


  #48  
Old January 3rd 10, 05:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia
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"Lange" wrote in message
...
On 1/01/2010 22:54, Ophelia wrote:


Emrys I know just how you feel. My husband gave me a new laptop for
Christmas and of course it has Win7. I hated it and all I could think of
was installing XP which I know and understand. He did look at it but it
seems that this model was not able to do that.


XP can be installed on every laptop, even on the bright shiny new ones, in
both a dual or a single setup. It seems your husband simply does not know
how (not a shame btw). But best is to push on and experiment a bit with
Windows 7 like you did. It's the future, XP is not.


Response from husband:

Although XP could be installed it would mean formatting the hard drive to do
so (unless we wanted to partition it and create a dual boot system, but then
we would lose the drive space taken up by Win 7 and its associated programs)
and the laptop was supplied with the software backed up on the hard drive
not on separate CD/DVDs, so if we did format the drive we would lose the
software. Also, some of the hardware gives best performance with the drivers
created for Win7 not XP and updated drivers for XP are not available on the
manufacturer's website.

Me again

He has supported and helped me and I am now much happier with Win 7, so with
the advice I am sure I shall find here, It will help me along






--
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  #49  
Old January 3rd 10, 05:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia
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wrote in message
...
"Trev" invalid wrote in message
...

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
I have Win98 SE, OE6 and WE6

My ten year old PC is on its way out and I must buy a new one soon. I
accept that I will have one with Windows 7 preinstalled and without it
having an email client. Having used Outlook Express for ten years I
will be very disappointed if I cannot continue with that as my wife and
I understand it and do not want much hassle.

Should OE not be possible, what is the best alternative so that we can
keep things simple and with a format which is close as possible to OE
i.e. sending and receiving emails and Usenet messages and storing same.

I have read about Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail in Google, but I am
in doubt as to their compatibility with Windows 7.

If you decide on an email client for me would you indicate whether it
can be downloaded or best installed at point of purchase. I have done
the necessary backups to an independent media.



Windows Live Mail Is more like OE but with some extras. Others are
Thunderbird or other Mozilla base Clients. I tried both and finished with
Live mail for my news reader as I use Outlook for Mail and Organising


I too am moving to Windows 7 and am in the same dilemma.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Windows Live Mail keeps you emails
on a Microsoft server instead of down on your own PC like outlook Express
does. Is that not so? That kind of worries me because I like my mail on
my own PC and deleted from the servers - as OE does.


If it helps, I have made a 'mail' folder on my desktop, and copy all mails I
wish to keep into that.

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  #50  
Old January 3rd 10, 06:29 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bert Coules
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Ophelia wrote:

I shall have a wee look and report back


Thanks very much, I'd appreciate that.

Bert
  #51  
Old January 3rd 10, 08:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Emrys Davies
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
Thanks Ophelia. Like you I and my wife are starting afresh after

ten
years and I am so pleased that I found this site because the answers

are
so explicit and helpful. You have given me a lot of confidence

knowing
that you sorted it out in an afternoon and hopefully I can do

likewise.

I hope you will post how you get on btw I am not so clever; my

husband
works in IT so I have an advantage, but it did seem to be fairly ok

--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


Yes I certainly will as I am sure that I will be asking lots of
questions as well.

Ophelia, in one of your posts you said that you have created a mail
folded on your desktop. Does that mean that Win7 does not have its own
local folders like OE? I hope not.


  #52  
Old January 4th 10, 01:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Doum
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"Emrys Davies" écrivait news:7q93pjF3j4U1
@mid.individual.net:

snip


Thanks for that. I can see that I have some catching up to do, but that
is because I have been sitting around from scratch with this very
reliable dan machine for nearly ten years. I am also researching tv's
because my trusted Sony Trinitron crt is also likely to wane. Busy
times, but enjoyable!!



You could get a PC with multiple monitor outputs (HDMI?), install some HDTV
tuner cards in it, more than one if you want, a surround soundcard (some
motherboards have them built-in) hook up a nice 24 inches LCD monitor for
your PC work and a giant LCD or Plasma TV to another HDMI connector and
having it all in one machine. And Windows7 supports those kind of setup
natively.

Have fun

  #53  
Old January 4th 10, 09:26 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia
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Posts: 325
Default Windows 7 email client



"Bert Coules" wrote in message
...
Ophelia wrote:

I shall have a wee look and report back


Thanks very much, I'd appreciate that.



Bert, I can't find it again It was something to do with appearance
though. If I do come across it I will remember to post.


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  #54  
Old January 4th 10, 09:29 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia
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Posts: 325
Default Windows 7 email client



"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
Thanks Ophelia. Like you I and my wife are starting afresh after

ten
years and I am so pleased that I found this site because the answers

are
so explicit and helpful. You have given me a lot of confidence

knowing
that you sorted it out in an afternoon and hopefully I can do

likewise.

I hope you will post how you get on btw I am not so clever; my

husband
works in IT so I have an advantage, but it did seem to be fairly ok

--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


Yes I certainly will as I am sure that I will be asking lots of
questions as well.

Ophelia, in one of your posts you said that you have created a mail
folded on your desktop. Does that mean that Win7 does not have its own
local folders like OE? I hope not.


If it will do that, I can't find it Anyway, I don't mind too much now I
am used to it. It is much easier to save than pulling all the mails or
posts over from OE if you want to keep them to back up. Of course
hopefully, someone will pop up and tell us how to do it)

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  #55  
Old January 4th 10, 10:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bert Coules
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Posts: 42
Default Windows 7 email client

Ophelia wrote:

Bert, I can't find it again It was something to do with appearance
though. If I do come across it I will remember to post.


Thanks for looking. Kind of you.

Bert

  #56  
Old January 4th 10, 10:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Lange
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Posts: 13
Default Windows 7 email client

On 2/01/2010 13:55, Emrys Davies wrote:
wrote in message
...



On 1/01/2010 22:04, Bob wrote:


Hi Bert don't get me wrong I am not anything to do with Microsoft

but I
don't really understand this pastel setup. Have you got an old

monitor
or something but mine is a very clear black and white. Unread

messages
are solid black with a number against their folder which was the

same as
in OE. I have mine set up to give a slightly larger font which makes

it
easier to read or write. To make the page even sharper go to format

and
then rich text



There are quite a few problems with Windows 7 and monitors in general.
And even if you have an old monitor which worked perfectly under XP,

why
would it all of a sudden not work perfectly anymore under Windows 7?
There's nothing wrong with the "old" monitor, it's just the way

Windows
7 deals with them that creates a problem.
I still use a CRT monitor (IIyama) because i need it to display sharp
images at various resolutions which is simply not possible with a

normal
LCD monitor (only if you throw a lot of money at it you can get an LCD
which displays more then it's native resolution sharp).
Windows 7 just refuses to let you use the resolutions you want and
instead forces what it thinks is the best resolution for you. At the
same time, it refuses to even give you the option the use various
refreshrates which are prefectly normal for a CRT monitor (but not for
an LCD). So in fact, Windows 7 just thinks everybody uses an LCD these
days.
In order to get it right, you need to stick to "older" videocard
drivers, create your own custom resolutions and refresh rates (if you
use Windows 7 updated drivers you can forget your custom resolutions

and
refresh rate).
LCD's can also suffer from this problem and sometimes it's even
necesarry to tweak the native refreshrate by 0.01 to 1 Hz to make the
image look sharp again.
This, combined with the Aero Themes can give you a fuzzy non sharp

look
when using Windows 7 on a CRT monitor. True Type fonts and rich text
will not help if you suffer from this problem.
There are zillions of topics about this problem scattered all over the
internet.


--
Lange, Air Ops 666th Black Brigade


It is appropriate that you should be talking about iiyama monitors. I
have the Vision Master Pro 410 which came with my PC some ten years ago.
The screen is 13" x 91/2". Its depth is 16". Would a new processor
work with this or, in view of its age, do you think that I should start
again. I ask mainly because this monitor was a bit special at the time.
In any case do they sell processors on their own?




What do you exactly mean by "Would a new processor work with this"?
Do you mean graphiccard wise? If yes, then i don't any reason why not.
But even your older graphiccard should do it's work, it's Windows 7
which causes the problem.

--
Lange, Air Ops 666th Black Brigade
  #57  
Old January 4th 10, 01:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Emrys Davies
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Default Windows 7 email client


"Doum" wrote in message
...
"Emrys Davies" écrivait news:7q93pjF3j4U1
@mid.individual.net:

snip


Thanks for that. I can see that I have some catching up to do, but

that
is because I have been sitting around from scratch with this very
reliable dan machine for nearly ten years. I am also researching

tv's
because my trusted Sony Trinitron crt is also likely to wane. Busy
times, but enjoyable!!



You could get a PC with multiple monitor outputs (HDMI?), install some

HDTV
tuner cards in it, more than one if you want, a surround soundcard

(some
motherboards have them built-in) hook up a nice 24 inches LCD monitor

for
your PC work and a giant LCD or Plasma TV to another HDMI connector

and
having it all in one machine. And Windows7 supports those kind of

setup
natively.

Have fun


That sounds good but far too involved for me, but thanks.


  #58  
Old January 4th 10, 01:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Emrys Davies
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 310
Default Windows 7 email client


"Lange" wrote in message
...
On 2/01/2010 13:55, Emrys Davies wrote:
wrote in message
...



On 1/01/2010 22:04, Bob wrote:


Hi Bert don't get me wrong I am not anything to do with Microsoft

but I
don't really understand this pastel setup. Have you got an old

monitor
or something but mine is a very clear black and white. Unread

messages
are solid black with a number against their folder which was the

same as
in OE. I have mine set up to give a slightly larger font which

makes
it
easier to read or write. To make the page even sharper go to

format
and
then rich text



There are quite a few problems with Windows 7 and monitors in

general.
And even if you have an old monitor which worked perfectly under

XP,
why
would it all of a sudden not work perfectly anymore under Windows

7?
There's nothing wrong with the "old" monitor, it's just the way

Windows
7 deals with them that creates a problem.
I still use a CRT monitor (IIyama) because i need it to display

sharp
images at various resolutions which is simply not possible with a

normal
LCD monitor (only if you throw a lot of money at it you can get an

LCD
which displays more then it's native resolution sharp).
Windows 7 just refuses to let you use the resolutions you want and
instead forces what it thinks is the best resolution for you. At

the
same time, it refuses to even give you the option the use various
refreshrates which are prefectly normal for a CRT monitor (but not

for
an LCD). So in fact, Windows 7 just thinks everybody uses an LCD

these
days.
In order to get it right, you need to stick to "older" videocard
drivers, create your own custom resolutions and refresh rates (if

you
use Windows 7 updated drivers you can forget your custom

resolutions
and
refresh rate).
LCD's can also suffer from this problem and sometimes it's even
necesarry to tweak the native refreshrate by 0.01 to 1 Hz to make

the
image look sharp again.
This, combined with the Aero Themes can give you a fuzzy non sharp

look
when using Windows 7 on a CRT monitor. True Type fonts and rich

text
will not help if you suffer from this problem.
There are zillions of topics about this problem scattered all over

the
internet.


--
Lange, Air Ops 666th Black Brigade


It is appropriate that you should be talking about iiyama monitors.

I
have the Vision Master Pro 410 which came with my PC some ten years

ago.
The screen is 13" x 91/2". Its depth is 16". Would a new processor
work with this or, in view of its age, do you think that I should

start
again. I ask mainly because this monitor was a bit special at the

time.
In any case do they sell processors on their own?




What do you exactly mean by "Would a new processor work with this"?
Do you mean graphiccard wise? If yes, then i don't any reason why not.
But even your older graphiccard should do it's work, it's Windows 7
which causes the problem.


Sorry about that. I meant a new PC on its own without a monitor. Just
wondered if it is worth keeping my ten year old monitor and replacing
the rest or is that not feasible or sensible. Money is not an issue.


  #59  
Old January 4th 10, 02:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jeff Gaines[_2_]
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On 04/01/2010 in message Emrys Davies
wrote:

Sorry about that. I meant a new PC on its own without a monitor. Just
wondered if it is worth keeping my ten year old monitor and replacing
the rest or is that not feasible or sensible. Money is not an issue.


What you need to ensure is:

(a) The connector from the new PC's graphics card matches your monitor. As
you say it's quite old it's probably VGA (3 rows of pins in an elongated
'D' shaped connector). Many modern computers use the (digital) DVI
connector. You can get a converter to convert DVI to VGA though so it's
not a show stopper.

(b) The graphics card on the new PC must output a resolution and refresh
rate your monitor can handle or you will get no picture (at worst the
monitor could be damaged but that's a rare occurrence). Look at the
properties of the current monitor:
Control Panel - Display - Adjust Resolution
and make a note of the resolution.
You also need to know the screen refresh rate - CRT monitors used much
higher refresh rates than modern TFT screens. I can't remember where the
heck that is in Win7 - perhaps somebody else can provide guidance.
Then you need to make sure the new PC can output that resolution and
refresh rate.

It might be worth your while looking at a new TFT monitor if you buy a new
PC. The Iiyama's did have superb pictures but most modern monitors are
pretty good nowadays.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant
  #60  
Old January 4th 10, 07:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Emrys Davies
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Posts: 310
Default Windows 7 email client


"Jeff Gaines" wrote in message
...
On 04/01/2010 in message Emrys

Davies
wrote:

Sorry about that. I meant a new PC on its own without a monitor. Just
wondered if it is worth keeping my ten year old monitor and replacing
the rest or is that not feasible or sensible. Money is not an issue.


What you need to ensure is:

(a) The connector from the new PC's graphics card matches your

monitor. As
you say it's quite old it's probably VGA (3 rows of pins in an

elongated
'D' shaped connector). Many modern computers use the (digital) DVI
connector. You can get a converter to convert DVI to VGA though so

it's
not a show stopper.

(b) The graphics card on the new PC must output a resolution and

refresh
rate your monitor can handle or you will get no picture (at worst the
monitor could be damaged but that's a rare occurrence). Look at the
properties of the current monitor:
Control Panel - Display - Adjust Resolution
and make a note of the resolution.
You also need to know the screen refresh rate - CRT monitors used much
higher refresh rates than modern TFT screens. I can't remember where

the
heck that is in Win7 - perhaps somebody else can provide guidance.
Then you need to make sure the new PC can output that resolution and
refresh rate.

It might be worth your while looking at a new TFT monitor if you buy a

new
PC. The Iiyama's did have superb pictures but most modern monitors are
pretty good nowadays.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant


Maximum Supported Resolution:
1600x1200 (75Hz)

Maximum Supported Refresh Rate:
75Hz (16x1200)

I have just read-up on TFT. Had never heard of it until you told me,
but I am interested now. Is it the next best thing to iiyama?


 




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