Windows 7 email client

"Jeff Gaines" wrote in message
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On 04/01/2010 in message Emrys
Davies
wrote:

Sorry about that. I meant a new PC on its own without a monitor. Just
wondered if it is worth keeping my ten year old monitor and replacing
the rest or is that not feasible or sensible. Money is not an issue.

What you need to ensure is:

(a) The connector from the new PC's graphics card matches your
monitor. As
you say it's quite old it's probably VGA (3 rows of pins in an
elongated
'D' shaped connector). Many modern computers use the (digital) DVI
connector. You can get a converter to convert DVI to VGA though so
it's
not a show stopper.

(b) The graphics card on the new PC must output a resolution and
refresh
rate your monitor can handle or you will get no picture (at worst the
monitor could be damaged but that's a rare occurrence). Look at the
properties of the current monitor:
Control Panel - Display - Adjust Resolution
and make a note of the resolution.
You also need to know the screen refresh rate - CRT monitors used much
higher refresh rates than modern TFT screens. I can't remember where
the
heck that is in Win7 - perhaps somebody else can provide guidance.
Then you need to make sure the new PC can output that resolution and
refresh rate.

It might be worth your while looking at a new TFT monitor if you buy a
new
PC. The Iiyama's did have superb pictures but most modern monitors are
pretty good nowadays.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant

The monitor connecter is as you described.

Maximum Supported Resolution:
1600x1200 (75Hz)

Maximum Supported Refresh Rate:
75Hz (16x1200)

I have just read-up on TFT. Had never heard of it until you told me,
but I am interested now. Is it the next best thing to iiyama?

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
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Sorry about that. I meant a new PC on its own without a monitor. Just
wondered if it is worth keeping my ten year old monitor and replacing
the rest or is that not feasible or sensible. Money is not an issue.



My question is how much longer do you expect that ten-year-old monitor to
keep working?

On 04/01/2010 in message Emrys Davies
wrote:

I have just read-up on TFT. Had never heard of it until you told me,
but I am interested now. Is it the next best thing to iiyama?

You really need to see them in action, if you have any computer stores
near you then go and have a look - one man's meat etc.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it

"Thip" wrote in message
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"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...

Sorry about that. I meant a new PC on its own without a monitor.
Just
wondered if it is worth keeping my ten year old monitor and
replacing
the rest or is that not feasible or sensible. Money is not an
issue.



My question is how much longer do you expect that ten-year-old monitor
to
keep working?

A very good question. Sometimes because you think that you have the
cat's whickers you are reluctant to part with it and you need someone to
convince you that enough is enough. Thanks to all of you in these
supplementary posts I am now convinced that I need a new monitor as well
as a new PC. It justs makes sence. Thanks again.

On 1/02/10, Jeff Gaines posted:
On 02/01/2010 in message johnbee
wrote:

Except of course for My Computer. Which is used by most users as the
successor to File Manager. Because, I suppose, it isn't hidden away like
WE

I'll just add QED to that!

What do you think 'My Computer' is then?

I had to laugh (out loud) when I read johnbee's reply...

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

On 1/02/10, Lange posted:
On 1/01/2010 22:54, Ophelia wrote:


Emrys I know just how you feel. My husband gave me a new laptop for
Christmas and of course it has Win7. I hated it and all I could think of
was installing XP which I know and understand. He did look at it but it
seems that this model was not able to do that.


XP can be installed on every laptop, even on the bright shiny new ones, in
both a dual or a single setup. It seems your husband simply does not know how
(not a shame btw). But best is to push on and experiment a bit with Windows 7
like you did. It's the future, XP is not.

This is *not* true. Many new computers do not have all the necessary
drivers available for Windows XP.

The manufacturers have chosen not to create and provide them.

You would have to go to the manufacturer's site for the computer in
question and find all the needed drivers, or perhaps even speak to
technical support...

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

"Jeff Gaines" wrote in message
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On 04/01/2010 in message Emrys Davies
wrote:

I have just read-up on TFT. Had never heard of it until you told me,
but I am interested now. Is it the next best thing to iiyama?

You really need to see them in action, if you have any computer stores
near you then go and have a look - one man's meat etc.

Oh, go on Emrys Bite the bullet, you will love it)



--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it


--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On 1/02/10, Lange posted:
On 1/01/2010 22:54, Ophelia wrote:


Emrys I know just how you feel. My husband gave me a new laptop for
Christmas and of course it has Win7. I hated it and all I could think of
was installing XP which I know and understand. He did look at it but it
seems that this model was not able to do that.


XP can be installed on every laptop, even on the bright shiny new ones,
in both a dual or a single setup. It seems your husband simply does not
know how (not a shame btw). But best is to push on and experiment a bit
with Windows 7 like you did. It's the future, XP is not.

This is *not* true. Many new computers do not have all the necessary
drivers available for Windows XP.

The manufacturers have chosen not to create and provide them.

You would have to go to the manufacturer's site for the computer in
question and find all the needed drivers, or perhaps even speak to
technical support...

Indeed. My husband did respond to Lange and explain why he didn't think it
a good idea. He didn't say he couldn't do it. I am pleased now that he
didn't. I am getting more used to 7 by the day and once a few anomolies are
ironed out, I think it will do nicely
--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/02/10, Lange posted:
On 1/01/2010 22:54, Ophelia wrote:


Emrys I know just how you feel. My husband gave me a new laptop for
Christmas and of course it has Win7. I hated it and all I could think of
was installing XP which I know and understand. He did look at it but it
seems that this model was not able to do that.


XP can be installed on every laptop, even on the bright shiny new
ones, in both a dual or a single setup. It seems your husband simply
does not know how (not a shame btw). But best is to push on and
experiment a bit with Windows 7 like you did. It's the future, XP is not.

This is *not* true. Many new computers do not have all the necessary
drivers available for Windows XP.

The manufacturers have chosen not to create and provide them.

You would have to go to the manufacturer's site for the computer in
question and find all the needed drivers, or perhaps even speak to
technical support...


Or install Ubuntu and not worry about it.

--
Alias

Alias wrote:
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/02/10, Lange posted:
On 1/01/2010 22:54, Ophelia wrote:


Emrys I know just how you feel. My husband gave me a new laptop for
Christmas and of course it has Win7. I hated it and all I could
think of
was installing XP which I know and understand. He did look at it but it
seems that this model was not able to do that.


XP can be installed on every laptop, even on the bright shiny new
ones, in both a dual or a single setup. It seems your husband simply
does not know how (not a shame btw). But best is to push on and
experiment a bit with Windows 7 like you did. It's the future, XP is
not.

This is *not* true. Many new computers do not have all the necessary
drivers available for Windows XP.

The manufacturers have chosen not to create and provide them.

You would have to go to the manufacturer's site for the computer in
question and find all the needed drivers, or perhaps even speak to
technical support...


Or install Ubuntu and not worry about it.


Still spamming and trolling in here cody?
You are the noise aren't you? You are the lying spamming, trolling
linutrd asshole POS loser in here.
Get lost you vile creep!

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/02/10, Lange posted:
On 1/01/2010 22:54, Ophelia wrote:


Emrys I know just how you feel. My husband gave me a new laptop for
Christmas and of course it has Win7. I hated it and all I could think of
was installing XP which I know and understand. He did look at it but it
seems that this model was not able to do that.


XP can be installed on every laptop, even on the bright shiny new ones,
in both a dual or a single setup. It seems your husband simply does not
know how (not a shame btw). But best is to push on and experiment a bit
with Windows 7 like you did. It's the future, XP is not.

This is *not* true. Many new computers do not have all the necessary
drivers available for Windows XP.

What does that have to do with /installing/ XP on a new computer? It may
not work with every peripheral, but that would not stop you installing it.

There are many people still using Win98 and ME, never mind XP. XP will do
just about everything the majority needs. It's a bit like Word - 95% of
people will use only 5% of its capabilities - how many people are still
using Word XP happily and have not seen the need to upgrade to 2007?

The manufacturers have chosen not to create and provide them.

I'm intrigued. Anything in particular which had been created for Vista and
Win7 and is not available for XP?


You would have to go to the manufacturer's site for the computer in
question and find all the needed drivers, or perhaps even speak to
technical support...

Not sure how this ties in with your previous paragraph. But in my
experience, you can get problems by using a Microsoft driver rather than the
OE manufacturer's driver.

--
Jeff

On 1/05/10, Jeff Layman posted:
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/02/10, Lange posted:
On 1/01/2010 22:54, Ophelia wrote:


Emrys I know just how you feel. My husband gave me a new laptop for
Christmas and of course it has Win7. I hated it and all I could think of
was installing XP which I know and understand. He did look at it but it
seems that this model was not able to do that.


XP can be installed on every laptop, even on the bright shiny new ones,
in both a dual or a single setup. It seems your husband simply does not
know how (not a shame btw). But best is to push on and experiment a bit
with Windows 7 like you did. It's the future, XP is not.

This is *not* true. Many new computers do not have all the necessary
drivers available for Windows XP.

What does that have to do with /installing/ XP on a new computer? It may not
work with every peripheral, but that would not stop you installing it.

Some of the drivers relate to the motherboard chipset,hard drive
controllers, and so on.

There are many people still using Win98 and ME, never mind XP. XP will do
just about everything the majority needs. It's a bit like Word - 95% of
people will use only 5% of its capabilities - how many people are still using
Word XP happily and have not seen the need to upgrade to 2007?

Not relevant to the problem of setting up on newer hardware.

The manufacturers have chosen not to create and provide them.

I'm intrigued. Anything in particular which had been created for Vista and
Win7 and is not available for XP?

OK, do some research and tell us. I won't, and I don't remember the
details I've read, so I have no response here.


You would have to go to the manufacturer's site for the computer in
question and find all the needed drivers, or perhaps even speak to
technical support...

Not sure how this ties in with your previous paragraph. But in my
experience, you can get problems by using a Microsoft driver rather than the
OE manufacturer's driver.

As I said, not all computers lack drivers, so I mentioned how to find
out if some given computer does have drivers. Clever, no?

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

Just go to a Vista machine and copy the folder C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
to your win 7 machine and it works perfectly fine. Done it many times on
different machines and no problems.

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
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I have Win98 SE, OE6 and WE6

My ten year old PC is on its way out and I must buy a new one soon. I
accept that I will have one with Windows 7 preinstalled and without it
having an email client. Having used Outlook Express for ten years I
will be very disappointed if I cannot continue with that as my wife and
I understand it and do not want much hassle.

Should OE not be possible, what is the best alternative so that we can
keep things simple and with a format which is close as possible to OE
i.e. sending and receiving emails and Usenet messages and storing same.

I have read about Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail in Google, but I am
in doubt as to their compatibility with Windows 7.

If you decide on an email client for me would you indicate whether it
can be downloaded or best installed at point of purchase. I have done
the necessary backups to an independent media.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
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"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
I have Win98 SE, OE6 and WE6

My ten year old PC is on its way out and I must buy a new one soon. I
accept that I will have one with Windows 7 preinstalled and without it
having an email client. Having used Outlook Express for ten years I
will be very disappointed if I cannot continue with that as my wife and
I understand it and do not want much hassle.

Should OE not be possible, what is the best alternative so that we can
keep things simple and with a format which is close as possible to OE
i.e. sending and receiving emails and Usenet messages and storing same.

I have read about Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail in Google, but I am
in doubt as to their compatibility with Windows 7.

If you decide on an email client for me would you indicate whether it
can be downloaded or best installed at point of purchase. I have done
the necessary backups to an independent media.



OE and Windows Mail haven't been in production since June, 2006 and will
not work in Win7. The closest you can get to OE is Windows Live Mail. It

Absolute bull****. I dont know about OE because I didnt try it but Windows
Mail works perfectly with Windows 7. Been there, done that.

"Hugh Jeego" wrote in message
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
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"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
I have Win98 SE, OE6 and WE6

My ten year old PC is on its way out and I must buy a new one soon. I
accept that I will have one with Windows 7 preinstalled and without it
having an email client. Having used Outlook Express for ten years I
will be very disappointed if I cannot continue with that as my wife
and
I understand it and do not want much hassle.

Should OE not be possible, what is the best alternative so that we can
keep things simple and with a format which is close as possible to OE
i.e. sending and receiving emails and Usenet messages and storing
same.

I have read about Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail in Google, but I
am
in doubt as to their compatibility with Windows 7.

If you decide on an email client for me would you indicate whether it
can be downloaded or best installed at point of purchase. I have done
the necessary backups to an independent media.



OE and Windows Mail haven't been in production since June, 2006 and
will not work in Win7. The closest you can get to OE is Windows Live
Mail. It

Absolute bull****. I dont know about OE because I didnt try it but
Windows Mail works perfectly with Windows 7. Been there, done that.



If you check my message headers, you will see that I too am using WinMail
in Win7. I based my reply on what seemed to be the best for the OP.

Can you open .eml files in WinMail?
Can you open .nws files in WinMail?
Can you make WinMail the default e-mail client?

Sure you can run WinMail in Win7. You can also run OE if you have XP in a
VPC in Win7.

The OP asked:

Should OE not be possible, what is the best alternative so that we can
keep things simple and with a format which is close as possible to OE

IMHO, keeping it simple was suggesting WLMail. (Which I don't really care
for myself). I try to read between the lines of a post.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA