Zyxel wireless router

Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Paul wrote:

The last option, sounds a lot like what "Paul in Houston TX"
is suggesting to you.

I use "Paul in Houston TX" so that people don't confuse us
and it's still confusing.

In my department at work, there were two other Pauls,
so we adopted numbers.

Paul

"Andy" wrote in message ...
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:34:53 PM UTC-6, Andy wrote:
I can not get a Zyxel wireless router nbg 418n working correctly.
It gets a great connection but my browser will not connect ?
Andy
Windows could not finish repairing the problem because the following action cannot be completed:
Clearing the DNS cache.

Click "Start", "Run", type "sc config dnscache start= auto" into the "Open"
box and click "OK". Then restart the computer. Be sure to leave a space
after the equals sign.

Ben

On Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:44:03 AM UTC-6, Nil wrote:
On 14 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:



I.E. You haven't a clue as to a fix.



I.E. I have quite a few clues, but I'm not in the mood to engage in a

game of "tease-the-meagerest-bit-of-grudging-information-from-the-guy-

who-constantly-breaks-his-computer." If you really wanted help, you'd

give people something to go on, not such useless vagaries,



Every time you do this, which is almost every day, you're asked for

complete and pertinent descriptions and information. You refuse to help

yourself or your helpers. The only explanation I can think of is that

it's really all about getting attention.

That explains why I get help and things are fixed.

Andy

On Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:28:06 AM UTC-6, Andy wrote:
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:44:03 AM UTC-6, Nil wrote:

On 14 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in



microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:







I.E. You haven't a clue as to a fix.







I.E. I have quite a few clues, but I'm not in the mood to engage in a



game of "tease-the-meagerest-bit-of-grudging-information-from-the-guy-



who-constantly-breaks-his-computer." If you really wanted help, you'd



give people something to go on, not such useless vagaries,







Every time you do this, which is almost every day, you're asked for



complete and pertinent descriptions and information. You refuse to help



yourself or your helpers. The only explanation I can think of is that



it's really all about getting attention.



That explains why I get help and things are fixed.



Andy

I would like to use the wireless router as a client bridge - in other words, a wifi adaptor, not an access point with a desktop system.

As I only have Linux on it, I would like to see if I could get it working on my
laptop which has XP.

Does someone have experience with setting up a client bridge using a wireless router ?

Thanks.

Andy wrote:
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:28:06 AM UTC-6, Andy wrote:
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:44:03 AM UTC-6, Nil wrote:

On 14 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
I.E. You haven't a clue as to a fix.
I.E. I have quite a few clues, but I'm not in the mood to engage in a
game of "tease-the-meagerest-bit-of-grudging-information-from-the-guy-
who-constantly-breaks-his-computer." If you really wanted help, you'd
give people something to go on, not such useless vagaries,
Every time you do this, which is almost every day, you're asked for
complete and pertinent descriptions and information. You refuse to help
yourself or your helpers. The only explanation I can think of is that
it's really all about getting attention.


That explains why I get help and things are fixed.



Andy

I would like to use the wireless router as a client bridge - in other words, a wifi adaptor, not an access point with a desktop system.

As I only have Linux on it, I would like to see if I could get it working on my
laptop which has XP.

Does someone have experience with setting up a client bridge using a wireless router ?

Thanks.

Experience ? No.

The instructions look pretty simple. If a little fuzzy.

1) Don't despair if the 418n "disappears". It's either at
192.168.1.1 or at 192.168.1.2. When you change modes,
the docs suggest the address will change after the
418n does a restart. Just change the address in your
browser and try again.

2) It seems to be claiming DHCP is disabled. If so, you'd
enter the WinXP networking thing, change from "Automatic"
for IP address, to manual, then enter something in what
you assume is the same subnet. Perhaps 192.168.1.3
would be good enough. I'm surprised DHCP from the
apartment router is not visible. Maybe they don't allow
that, to prevent you from getting "trapped on a
different subnet" or something.

3) You don't have to worry about automatic DNS setting, as
you're already using an opendns address for that. Your
control panel is likely already in manual mode for that.
(Or else your 418n was in router mode, and had the DNS
set manually to the OpenDNS address.)

This should be simple enough, it'll take "half a dozen
experiments, tops" :-)

The reset button on a router, is your friend. If you really
foul things up, follow the reset procedure in the manual.
Some routers make this into a peculiar ceremony, with
precise timing, like "once you see the red light, continue
to press the RESET button for ten seconds". That sort of thing.
There should be a section somewhere in the manual, covering reset.

I've had to use reset a couple of times on my ADSL modem/router,
until I was satisfied with the bridged mode I put it in. It sits
on a different subnet now, so I can't access it from here. I have
to "re-cable" if I want to talk to it.

HTH,
Paul

On 15 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

That explains why I get help and things are fixed.

The reason you get help is that you have one superhumanly patient
fellow here who doesn't mind coaxing every little smidge of information
out of you, bit by grudging bit.

The reason you break things daily? I only have my suspicions.

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:35:54 -0500, Nil
wrote in
Re Zyxel wireless
router:

On 15 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

That explains why I get help and things are fixed.

The reason you get help is that you have one superhumanly patient
fellow here who doesn't mind coaxing every little smidge of information
out of you, bit by grudging bit.

The reason you break things daily? I only have my suspicions.

Because he's a google group dim-wit?

On Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:35:54 PM UTC-6, Nil wrote:
On 15 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:



That explains why I get help and things are fixed.



The reason you get help is that you have one superhumanly patient

fellow here who doesn't mind coaxing every little smidge of information

out of you, bit by grudging bit.



The reason you break things daily? I only have my suspicions.

I feel that you help others grudgingly.

Superhuman, maybe or he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder ?

Andy

On 15 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

I feel that you help others grudgingly.

You feel wrong. I'm happy to help anyone as well as I can. I only ask
that they try to describe their problem as best they can, that they
provide as many pertinent details as they can, and that they answer
direct questions in full when asked. This is the way to ask for help
from anyone. Do you treat your doctor the way you treat people here?
"Oh, Doctor, I hurt." "Where do you hurt?" "There." "Where's 'there'?"
"Down there." Ad frustatum.

The fact that you consistently decline to make even the slightest
effort to help others help you tells me that you're either playing
games or incredibly lazy or you feel your time is more valuable than
others, or all of the above.

Superhuman, maybe or he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder ?

Or he's kind, smart, patient, and has a lot of time on his hands.

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 21:45:54 -0500, Nil
wrote in
Re Zyxel wireless
router:

The fact that you consistently decline to make even the slightest
effort to help others help you tells me that you're either playing
games or incredibly lazy or you feel your time is more valuable than
others, or all of the above.

Or more simply: he a Google Groupie (GG). Have you noticed any
similarities about the posting style and personas of GGs? I have.
They are generally clueless about UseNet, it's customs and traditions
and they are not interested in changing their attitude.

Of course, not all GGs are like that, but I believe most of them are.

On 16 Dec 2013, VinnyB wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Or more simply: he a Google Groupie (GG). Have you noticed any
similarities about the posting style and personas of GGs? I have.
They are generally clueless about UseNet, it's customs and traditions
and they are not interested in changing their attitude.

Of course, not all GGs are like that, but I believe most of them are.

I don't think it's a question of Google or of customs or traditions.
It's a matter of asking a well-formed, coherent technical question.
Everybody who has gone to school should know how to do it. You describe
your question precisely and fully, giving as many pertinent details as
you can. You describe what you've already done and what happened,
including any error messages verbatim. There some good essays on how to
ask a good technical question:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-...html#beprecise

There are certain people who visit forums like this one who aren't
really here for technical assistance, they're here for attention. They
pose a question that's deliberately vague and unanswerable, forcing
people to play 20 questions to pry the details out. The original
poster's responses are usually incomplete or misleading. The whole
thing can drag out for days or weeks an issue that could have been
discussed and answered in hours, had they been upfront about
everything. But the answer isn't the point, of course - it's more about
prolonging the interaction.

There are certain people who visit forums like this one who aren't
really here for technical assistance, they're here for attention. They
pose a question that's deliberately vague and unanswerable, forcing
people to play 20 questions to pry the details out. The original
poster's responses are usually incomplete or misleading. The whole
thing can drag out for days or weeks an issue that could have been
discussed and answered in hours, had they been upfront about
everything. But the answer isn't the point, of course - it's more about
prolonging the interaction.

I think you have described it correctly. Just a troll wanting to create
attention.

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:16:15 -0500, Nil
wrote in
Re Zyxel wireless
router:

But the answer isn't the point, of course - it's more about
prolonging the interaction.

Well, that's certainly a possibility. Nonetheless, I prefer to avoid
the aggravation of reading posts from Google Groupies. Not seeing
their top posting and multi-blank-lines quoting makes my day more
pleasant.

On 16 Dec 2013, VinnyB wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Well, that's certainly a possibility. Nonetheless, I prefer to avoid
the aggravation of reading posts from Google Groupies. Not seeing
their top posting and multi-blank-lines quoting makes my day more
pleasant.

You do what you think you have to do. I think it's elitist and
ineffective, but go ahead. It's irrelevant to this example.

On Monday, December 16, 2013 8:49:38 PM UTC-6, VinnyB wrote:
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:16:15 -0500, Nil

wrote in

Re Zyxel wireless

router:



But the answer isn't the point, of course - it's more about

prolonging the interaction.



Well, that's certainly a possibility. Nonetheless, I prefer to avoid

the aggravation of reading posts from Google Groupies. Not seeing

their top posting and multi-blank-lines quoting makes my day more

pleasant.

Down to name calling ? :-)

Fortunately, most people aren't looking for the negative.

Andy