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I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop.
At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On 09/13/2010 03:10 PM, Don Phillipson wrote:
I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? First off, did you try the full format? Go the the website of the HD's mfg and download the diagnostic utility. If it says the drive is bad...believe it! |
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On 09/13/2010 03:10 PM, Don Phillipson wrote:
I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? "philo" wrote in message ... First off, did you try the full format? No, since unwilling to lose both data and configuration (or else spend the time to copy all to a portable drive, then back after reformat.) The practical consideration is that the price of a new and reliable drive for the Satellite would nowadays also buy a newer (smaller, cuter, possibly faster) notebook PC. I am just looking for an objective pointer to redirect spending between repairing the Satellite or replacing it. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On 14/09/2010 9:27 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
On 09/13/2010 03:10 PM, Don Phillipson wrote: I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? wrote in message ... First off, did you try the full format? No, since unwilling to lose both data and configuration (or else spend the time to copy all to a portable drive, then back after reformat.) The practical consideration is that the price of a new and reliable drive for the Satellite would nowadays also buy a newer (smaller, cuter, possibly faster) notebook PC. I am just looking for an objective pointer to redirect spending between repairing the Satellite or replacing it. What kind of a hard disk do you have in the old laptop? Is it an IDE or a SATA? If it's IDE, you can get a relatively cheap 160GB drive, that's as big as they get on IDE. If it's a SATA, then the sky is the limit, so far. Yousuf Khan |
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Don Phillipson typed: On 09/13/2010 03:10 PM, Don Phillipson wrote: I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? "philo" wrote in message ... First off, did you try the full format? No, since unwilling to lose both data and configuration (or else spend the time to copy all to a portable drive, then back after reformat.) The practical consideration is that the price of a new and reliable drive for the Satellite would nowadays also buy a newer (smaller, cuter, possibly faster) notebook PC. I am just looking for an objective pointer to redirect spending between repairing the Satellite or replacing it. If you are unwilling to lose any data, then you had better get busy and at least create one full backup of your important data. Anytimne you touch the OS of any computer, it's a pre-requisite to back it up first. If you're unwilling to back up, even to DVDs or the 'net, then you're an accident looking for a place to happen IMO. Nothing can reliably protect it for you. HTH, Twayne` |
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"philo" wrote in message
... On 09/13/2010 03:10 PM, Don Phillipson wrote: I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? .. . . Go the the website of the HD's mfg and download the diagnostic utility. If it says the drive is bad...believe it! http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287#toshiba says: "Toshiba does not provide diagnostic tools for hard drives, currently." YK pointed out new hard drives are cheap: but http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/27...sk-replacement points out newer or bigger drives are likely to run hotter, quite probably exceeding the cooling capacity of the (year 2000) fan. So I shall run Seagate or WD diagnostics in case they work . . . -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On 09/14/2010 05:58 PM, Twayne wrote:
In , Don typed: On 09/13/2010 03:10 PM, Don Phillipson wrote: I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? wrote in message ... First off, did you try the full format? No, since unwilling to lose both data and configuration (or else spend the time to copy all to a portable drive, then back after reformat.) The practical consideration is that the price of a new and reliable drive for the Satellite would nowadays also buy a newer (smaller, cuter, possibly faster) notebook PC. I am just looking for an objective pointer to redirect spending between repairing the Satellite or replacing it. If you are unwilling to lose any data, then you had better get busy and at least create one full backup of your important data. Anytimne you touch the OS of any computer, it's a pre-requisite to back it up first. If you're unwilling to back up, even to DVDs or the 'net, then you're an accident looking for a place to happen IMO. Nothing can reliably protect it for you. HTH, Twayne` amen! |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) You don't mention what model and CPU you have. I assume from "WinXP (SP3) will not complete" that you are trying to install SP3? Do you have an AMD processor? There's a known problem with some PC's (mainly HP, but others also). Read this article: http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=207800691 I have a Seagate Momentus SATA drive in my Gateway that rarely gets above 100F, so that shouldn't be too warm for your old fan (if your Satellite supports SATA). -- SC Tom -There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support. |
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Twayne
Well said and put -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Don Phillipson typed: On 09/13/2010 03:10 PM, Don Phillipson wrote: |
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... "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) You don't mention what model and CPU you have. I assume from "WinXP (SP3) will not complete" that you are trying to install SP3? Do you have an AMD processor? There's a known problem with some PC's (mainly HP, but others also). Read this article: http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=207800691 I have a Seagate Momentus SATA drive in my Gateway that rarely gets above 100F, so that shouldn't be too warm for your old fan (if your Satellite supports SATA). My error: WinXP (SP3) installed successfully: it is ScanDisk that will not complete (i.e. craps out at Phase 2). -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) You don't mention what model and CPU you have. I assume from "WinXP (SP3) will not complete" that you are trying to install SP3? Do you have an AMD processor? There's a known problem with some PC's (mainly HP, but others also). Read this article: http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=207800691 I have a Seagate Momentus SATA drive in my Gateway that rarely gets above 100F, so that shouldn't be too warm for your old fan (if your Satellite supports SATA). My error: WinXP (SP3) installed successfully: it is ScanDisk that will not complete (i.e. craps out at Phase 2). -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Open a Command Prompt window, and type in chkdsk /r and press enter. It will tell you that it can't run now, do you want to run it on reboot. Type in y, press enter, and reboot. If there are any drive errors, it will (should) find them and take care of it. -- SC Tom -There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support. |
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Try and defragment before running chkdisk. Try you will like it :-)
-- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) You don't mention what model and CPU you have. I assume from "WinXP (SP3) will not complete" that you are trying to install SP3? Do you have an AMD processor? There's a known problem with some PC's (mainly HP, but others also). Read this article: http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=207800691 I have a Seagate Momentus SATA drive in my Gateway that rarely gets above 100F, so that shouldn't be too warm for your old fan (if your Satellite supports SATA). My error: WinXP (SP3) installed successfully: it is ScanDisk that will not complete (i.e. craps out at Phase 2). -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) ScanDisk will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? Open a Command Prompt window, and type in chkdsk /r and press enter. It will tell you that it can't run now, do you want to run it on reboot. Type in y, press enter, and reboot. If there are any drive errors, it will (should) find them and take care of it. Bingo ! scandisk /f did the trick (repairing indices at end of phase 2). (It's no good being a DR-DOS maven in 1990 if you forget in 2010 what you used to know . . . ) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... I suspect the hard drive of this (ancient) Toshiba Satellite laptop. At any rate WinXP (SP3) ScanDisk will not complete: craps out at Phase 2. Would some third-party tool provide either repair or information? Open a Command Prompt window, and type in chkdsk /r and press enter. It will tell you that it can't run now, do you want to run it on reboot. Type in y, press enter, and reboot. If there are any drive errors, it will (should) find them and take care of it. Bingo ! scandisk /f did the trick (repairing indices at end of phase 2). (It's no good being a DR-DOS maven in 1990 if you forget in 2010 what you used to know . . . ) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Good deal! Glad it's working now! -- SC Tom -There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support. |
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On 14/09/2010 7:45 PM, Don Phillipson wrote:
YK pointed out new hard drives are cheap: but http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/27...sk-replacement points out newer or bigger drives are likely to run hotter, quite probably exceeding the cooling capacity of the (year 2000) fan. I doubt that, if anything newer hard drives would be more likely to run cooler than the older ones. Besides, they've been designed to run under some very unchanging maximum temperature conditions on laptops for years now. Whereas desktops have soared in temperature, the laptops have had to stay within the same temperature envelopes. So I shall run Seagate or WD diagnostics in case they work . . . Either is fine, and you don't have to limit yourself to them either. There's plenty of good freeware and trialware utils out there, such Hard Disk Sentinel or HD Scan. Both will read the SMART data off of your hard drive and report it back to you. HDSentinel actually has a great summarized rating system. Yousuf Khan |
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