two browser issues

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"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
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Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web
browser,

Invariably? Not likely.

? ...I didn't use that word for fun. ALL, whose PC's I help with use
IE, the handfull of people that installed Mozilla, (as a solution!)
were very pleased when their IE problems were resolved.

So the handful of people who come to you like IE for some reason.

You're still wrong.

--
St. Paul, MN

In message , RJK
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , RJK
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" ... I just
dislike the (to me) excessive integration with the OS. If you _like_ that,
fine."

regards, Richard



I never really understood the debacle in the courts over IE. ...and to
continue for a moment with the motor car analogy :-) ...aftermarket parts
never really cut it, compared to OEM !

But a _better_ engine/motor from a different manufacturer might be even
better. (Though the car analogy creaks somewhat.)

It seemed to me that, to fight for a share share of the web browser market,
to be used on someone elses operating system, was just irrashional.
And the "Browser Choice" KB was a significant annoyance for the majority of
people who were happy with IE !!!!!

I'm sure it was for the majority of {people who were happy with IE};
however, that's not the same as {the majority of people} who were happy
with IE - which I contest (especially outside USA).

Why not also pursue a legal claim to have multiple choice for the file
browser, ... or Control Panel, ....or the Windows Desktop :-) ?

Why not indeed.

regards, Richard



I'm tired of this - you're clearly not going to change your mind, so I'm
going to kill this thread; you can claim that I'm giving up if you
choose, I won't see it.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Rugby is a game played by gentlemen with odd-shaped balls.

"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
wrote:


"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
wrote:

Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web
browser,

Invariably? Not likely.

? ...I didn't use that word for fun. ALL, whose PC's I help with use
IE, the handfull of people that installed Mozilla, (as a solution!)
were very pleased when their IE problems were resolved.

So the handful of people who come to you like IE for some reason.

You're still wrong.

--
St. Paul, MN

Big handful !

regards, Richard

"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
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"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
wrote:

Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web
browser,

Invariably? Not likely.

? ...I didn't use that word for fun. ALL, whose PC's I help with use
IE, the handfull of people that installed Mozilla, (as a solution!)
were very pleased when their IE problems were resolved.

So the handful of people who come to you like IE for some reason.

You're still wrong.

--
St. Paul, MN

I was tempted to not even dignify "handful of people" with a response but,
clearly your clairvoyant algorithm is malfunctioning !
To have encouraged such a stupid remark simply indicates a high probability
that you are amongst those who couldn't get on with IE, usually, stupidly,
after allowing a raft of IE plug-ins to be installed, or similar
self-inflicted problems.

Those who "hate" IE, are often those who "hate" MS OS/GUI's as well, and try
to substitute them with alternatives, often without success.
My circle of support contains a handful of people who chose a 3rd party
web-browser, (after being led astray by the ridiculous "Browser Choice"
fiasco), all of whom were pleased to return to IE !!!!

regards, Richard

In message , RJK
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"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
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"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
wrote:

Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web
browser,

Invariably? Not likely.

? ...I didn't use that word for fun. ALL, whose PC's I help with use
IE, the handfull of people that installed Mozilla, (as a solution!)
were very pleased when their IE problems were resolved.

So the handful of people who come to you like IE for some reason.

You're still wrong.

--
St. Paul, MN

I was tempted to not even dignify "handful of people" with a response but,
clearly your clairvoyant algorithm is malfunctioning !
To have encouraged such a stupid remark simply indicates a high probability
that you are amongst those who couldn't get on with IE, usually, stupidly,
after allowing a raft of IE plug-ins to be installed, or similar
self-inflicted problems.

We resent the implication that we're all that stupid.

Those who "hate" IE, are often those who "hate" MS OS/GUI's as well, and try
to substitute them with alternatives, often without success.
My circle of support contains a handful of people who chose a 3rd party
web-browser, (after being led astray by the ridiculous "Browser Choice"
fiasco), all of whom were pleased to return to IE !!!!

That may well be only "a handful", and they're people who wanted to
"return to" IE. The majority of those who use another browser either
have no desire to "return to" IE, or don't want to return to you for
support (for reasons varying from just being tired with your attitude to
just not wanting to hurt your feelings).

FWIW, I could never "return" to IE, as I never used it as my main
browser. I have other reasons for not liking it (none of which have to
do with plugins - I wouldn't know how to install one). I don't dislike
MS OS/GUIs that much: if I did, I'd be using a *n*x variant.

regards, Richard





(Why 5 lines?)
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Freedom of the press is limited to those who have one.

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , RJK
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"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
wrote:


"Bert" wrote in message
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In "RJK"
wrote:

Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web
browser,

Invariably? Not likely.

? ...I didn't use that word for fun. ALL, whose PC's I help with use
IE, the handfull of people that installed Mozilla, (as a solution!)
were very pleased when their IE problems were resolved.

So the handful of people who come to you like IE for some reason.

You're still wrong.

--
St. Paul, MN

I was tempted to not even dignify "handful of people" with a response but,
clearly your clairvoyant algorithm is malfunctioning !
To have encouraged such a stupid remark simply indicates a high
probability
that you are amongst those who couldn't get on with IE, usually, stupidly,
after allowing a raft of IE plug-ins to be installed, or similar
self-inflicted problems.

We resent the implication that we're all that stupid.

Those who "hate" IE, are often those who "hate" MS OS/GUI's as well, and
try
to substitute them with alternatives, often without success.
My circle of support contains a handful of people who chose a 3rd party
web-browser, (after being led astray by the ridiculous "Browser Choice"
fiasco), all of whom were pleased to return to IE !!!!

That may well be only "a handful", and they're people who wanted to
"return to" IE. The majority of those who use another browser either have
no desire to "return to" IE, or don't want to return to you for support
(for reasons varying from just being tired with your attitude to just not
wanting to hurt your feelings).

FWIW, I could never "return" to IE, as I never used it as my main browser.
I have other reasons for not liking it (none of which have to do with
plugins - I wouldn't know how to install one). I don't dislike MS OS/GUIs
that much: if I did, I'd be using a *n*x variant.

regards, Richard





(Why 5 lines?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Freedom of the press is limited to those who have one.

"...usually, stupidly, after allowing a raft of IE plug-ins to be
installed..." refers literally to "...stupidly, after allowing a raft of IE
plug-ins to be installed,"
....so please don't twist a literal point into something I didn't suggest !!!

....and your rather silly suggestion that people don't return to me, because
of my dislike of 3rd party web - browsers is incorrect. I never dissuade
people from using them but, as soon as they mention a problem with IE, the
moment it's fixed, ...their next question is, (in as many words), "...how do
I make IE my default browser again ?" :-)

regards, Richard