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Old August 7th 15, 03:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Windows Defender too slow to update

On 8/7/2015 7:33 AM, Jonas Q wrote:
On 06-Aug-2015 13:47, Ron wrote:
On 8/6/2015 1:36 PM, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:03:10 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/6/2015 7:30 AM, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:03:26 -0400, Vitalic wrote:

I recommend Avira

Why?


Why not?

There are alternatives. On this machine I'm using Lavasoft Ad-Aware
but that's crashing one other machine I have so I moved to Avast.
But I've no real idea which is best.


Sure there are alternatives, but Avira is one of the top free AVs that
you can use. Has been for years.

Lavasoft Ad-Aware? I haven't used that in about 10 years. And that is
not an AV program. It is to be used in addition to your AV program.
Malwarebytes and Superantispware are better programs though.


Yep. Check your facts.
http://www.lavasoft.com/


I stand corrected. I don't know when they started making an AV but for
the years I used it, it was for ad/spyware, hence the name "Ad-Aware".

Got curious. 2008 is when they released an AV. Only thing is, they don't
use their own AV engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad-Aware#History
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  #17  
Old August 7th 15, 03:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Windows Defender too slow to update

On 8/7/2015 8:03 AM, Paul wrote:
Jonas Q wrote:
On 06-Aug-2015 13:47, Ron wrote:
On 8/6/2015 1:36 PM, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:03:10 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/6/2015 7:30 AM, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:03:26 -0400, Vitalic wrote:

I recommend Avira

Why?


Why not?

There are alternatives. On this machine I'm using Lavasoft Ad-Aware
but that's crashing one other machine I have so I moved to Avast.
But I've no real idea which is best.


Sure there are alternatives, but Avira is one of the top free AVs that
you can use. Has been for years.

Lavasoft Ad-Aware? I haven't used that in about 10 years. And that is
not an AV program. It is to be used in addition to your AV program.
Malwarebytes and Superantispware are better programs though.


Yep. Check your facts.
http://www.lavasoft.com/


I like Wikipedia, for some background info.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad-Aware

"In the 2008 Edition, Lavasoft bundled Ad-Aware Pro and Plus
for the first time with an antivirus scanner,

which used the Avira engine ---

and this arrangement continued for a few years.

Starting with Ad-Aware version 10,
the Bitdefender antivirus engine was used instead." ---

Note that this is a popular option in the industry.
Several of the companies, sell their engine to third
parties. And that's how an Adware program can acquire
basic AV capabilities.

Such an AV capability might be signature based. You
wouldn't expect industry-leading heuristic detection.
But, signature analysis is better than no protection
at all.

So before using a product like that, you would check
the recent AV-Comparatives for Bitdefender, and see
what percentage of stuff Bitdefender detects. And make
your decision that way.

Paul


Guess I should have read your post before posting the Wiki link. lol
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Old August 7th 15, 05:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Windows Defender too slow to update

On 8/7/2015 10:46 AM, Ron wrote:
On 8/7/2015 7:33 AM, Jonas Q wrote:
On 06-Aug-2015 13:47, Ron wrote:
On 8/6/2015 1:36 PM, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:03:10 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/6/2015 7:30 AM, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:03:26 -0400, Vitalic wrote:

I recommend Avira

Why?


Why not?

There are alternatives. On this machine I'm using Lavasoft Ad-Aware
but that's crashing one other machine I have so I moved to Avast.
But I've no real idea which is best.


Sure there are alternatives, but Avira is one of the top free AVs that
you can use. Has been for years.

Lavasoft Ad-Aware? I haven't used that in about 10 years. And that is
not an AV program. It is to be used in addition to your AV program.
Malwarebytes and Superantispware are better programs though.


Yep. Check your facts.
http://www.lavasoft.com/


I stand corrected. I don't know when they started making an AV but for
the years I used it, it was for ad/spyware, hence the name "Ad-Aware".

Got curious. 2008 is when they released an AV. Only thing is, they don't
use their own AV engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad-Aware#History


I dug even further into this so I wouldn't think I was completely
loosing my mind.

The free version of Ad-Aware AV wasn't released until 2012.

http://filehippo.com/download_ad-aware/history/2/


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Old August 9th 15, 02:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Vitalic
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Default Windows Defender too slow to update

On 8/6/2015 7:30 AM, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:03:26 -0400, Vitalic wrote:

I recommend Avira


Why?


well, from German A/V Comparitives real world tests (latest) Avira came
out as the best free AV

Avast has fallen a bit, AVG screws up some key software programs (long
story)

Bit defender free has high marks but false positives in quarantine are
almost impossible to get out

Kaspersky is high on the list also but slowed the ****** out of my PC
and is not free

so that's the basic reasoning I have for liking Avira
  #20  
Old August 9th 15, 06:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
mechanic
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Default Windows Defender too slow to update

On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 09:15:55 -0400, Vitalic wrote:

well, from German A/V Comparitives real world tests (latest) Avira came
out as the best free AV

Avast has fallen a bit, AVG screws up some key software programs (long
story)

Bit defender free has high marks but false positives in quarantine are
almost impossible to get out

Kaspersky is high on the list also but slowed the ****** out of my PC
and is not free

so that's the basic reasoning I have for liking Avira


Thanks for the feedback - I used to use Avira but found the
interface confusing, Kaspersky is given free by my bank but again
the interface confuses. Avast seems 'good enough' according to
various ratings and is easy to set up. Sneaks signatures onto NNTP
posts though, which I just realised yesterday. Most advice seems to
be that anti-virus is not so important as it used to be, the
emphasis now seems to be malware attacks and web/browser/email
threats. I read in 'Future Crimes'
(http://www.futurecrimesbook.com/) that viruses/malware are produced
faster than the AV industry can cope, so relying on the latest
defence software to protect from threats is hopeless.
 




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