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New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via Network Connections



 
 
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  #31  
Old August 3rd 18, 03:18 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Caver1
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Default New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via NetworkConnections

On 08/03/2018 05:15 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Dan Espen wrote:

Nomen Nescio writes:

In article
Anonymous wrote:

After serious thinking Nomen Nescio wrote :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

Nomen Nescio formulated the question :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

Nomen Nescio expressed precisely :
In article
Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2018-07-28, Richard Kettlewell
wrote:
Melzzzzz writes:
I still can't see how anything related to network can be used
to conclude that some data is from cache or memory.
Care to explain how that can be concluded from eg
communication with web server?

The paper is not hard to find:
https://misc0110.net/web/files/netspectre.pdf

I have skimmed over paper, yet I see they need server side
application...

All they have to do is run linux and let the leakage begin.

This simply doesn't make sense. Linux for years has proven to
be the safest servers out there.

Wrong.

OpenVMS and OS/400 both put linux to shame.

OS/400 must really be good. I have never heard of it.

probably because you're never operated or worked on a real
computer.

IBM main frame software engineer.

I'm familiar with you IBM guys. I had to give a bunch of "IBM
Software Engineers" classes on TCP/IP and SMTP because as a
group, you couldn't figure out how to format email messages and
drop them in a pickup folder to be sent. TCP/IP routing and DNS
was a mystery that sent some of you to retirement because you
couldn't make the transition from SNA.


Really, you know us all?

Retired MVS maven _and_ Linux expert.
Lots of other stuff too numerous to list.
Software developer since 1964.

How do I know you are an idiot?


Retired means not gifted enough to continue.


No it can mean wealthy enough and doesn't need to work.
OR maybe 80 years old.
Maybe disabled.
Maybe fulfilling his bucket list.
Maybe mentoring.
Or maybe many other things but not definitely not what you stated.



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  #32  
Old August 3rd 18, 06:29 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Anonymous
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Default New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via Network Connections

Nomen Nescio explained :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

Nomen Nescio expressed precisely :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

After serious thinking Nomen Nescio wrote :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

Nomen Nescio formulated the question :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

Nomen Nescio expressed precisely :
In article
Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2018-07-28, Richard Kettlewell
wrote:
Melzzzzz writes:
I still can't see how anything related to network can be
used to conclude that some data is from cache or memory.
Care to explain how that can be concluded from eg
communication with web server?

The paper is not hard to find:
https://misc0110.net/web/files/netspectre.pdf

I have skimmed over paper, yet I see they need server side
application...

All they have to do is run linux and let the leakage begin.

This simply doesn't make sense. Linux for years has proven
to be the safest servers out there.

Wrong.

OpenVMS and OS/400 both put linux to shame.

OS/400 must really be good. I have never heard of it.

probably because you're never operated or worked on a real
computer.

IBM main frame software engineer.

I'm familiar with you IBM guys. I had to give a bunch of "IBM
Software Engineers" classes on TCP/IP and SMTP because as a
group, you couldn't figure out how to format email messages and
drop them in a pickup folder to be sent. TCP/IP routing and DNS
was a mystery that sent some of you to retirement because you
couldn't make the transition from SNA.


Like a liberal democrat, you lump everyone into a corporate
bundle. As for me, I was an IBM main frame software engineer, not an
IBM enployee.


Bet you were a whiz at COBOL.


Assembler here, but had to maintain some passed down cobol bilge.
  #33  
Old August 3rd 18, 06:45 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Anonymous
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Posts: 41
Default New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via Network Connections

Nomen Nescio formulated on Friday :
In article
Dan Espen wrote:

Nomen Nescio writes:

In article
Anonymous wrote:

After serious thinking Nomen Nescio wrote :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

Nomen Nescio formulated the question :
In article
Anonymous wrote:

Nomen Nescio expressed precisely :
In article
Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2018-07-28, Richard Kettlewell
wrote:
Melzzzzz writes:
I still can't see how anything related to network can be
used to conclude that some data is from cache or memory.
Care to explain how that can be concluded from eg
communication with web server?

The paper is not hard to find:
https://misc0110.net/web/files/netspectre.pdf

I have skimmed over paper, yet I see they need server side
application...

All they have to do is run linux and let the leakage begin.

This simply doesn't make sense. Linux for years has proven
to be the safest servers out there.

Wrong.

OpenVMS and OS/400 both put linux to shame.

OS/400 must really be good. I have never heard of it.

probably because you're never operated or worked on a real
computer.

IBM main frame software engineer.

I'm familiar with you IBM guys. I had to give a bunch of "IBM
Software Engineers" classes on TCP/IP and SMTP because as a
group, you couldn't figure out how to format email messages and
drop them in a pickup folder to be sent. TCP/IP routing and DNS
was a mystery that sent some of you to retirement because you
couldn't make the transition from SNA.


Really, you know us all?

Retired MVS maven _and_ Linux expert.
Lots of other stuff too numerous to list.
Software developer since 1964.

How do I know you are an idiot?


Retired means not gifted enough to continue.


Actually, not stupid enough to continue. My reason - Not going to
put up with anymore nonsense from anyone. Their is no reason for
someone to remain in the tyrannical work force if they can free
themselves. It was amazing what constituted a problem in the places I
worked. Very few places would just brush minor things off. Most
treated every little problem as a major crisis. The prevailing
attitudes we heads are going to roll. Some of the *******s I worked
for were actually surprised when I decided to move on. Ross Perot's
Electronic Data Systems, hiring mostly people out of the military, and
run like the military, was the worst. Sieg Heil to all those little
Hitlers. Liars, suppressors, hypocrites, little dictators.

So continue to bow the knee, O' 'gifted enough' one. I am laughing
at you and enjoying myself out here among the truly free.
 




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