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New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via NetworkConnections
On 08/03/2018 05:15 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article Dan Espen wrote: Nomen Nescio writes: In article Anonymous wrote: After serious thinking Nomen Nescio wrote : In article Anonymous wrote: Nomen Nescio formulated the question : In article Anonymous wrote: Nomen Nescio expressed precisely : In article Melzzzzz wrote: On 2018-07-28, Richard Kettlewell wrote: Melzzzzz writes: I still can't see how anything related to network can be used to conclude that some data is from cache or memory. Care to explain how that can be concluded from eg communication with web server? The paper is not hard to find: https://misc0110.net/web/files/netspectre.pdf I have skimmed over paper, yet I see they need server side application... All they have to do is run linux and let the leakage begin. This simply doesn't make sense. Linux for years has proven to be the safest servers out there. Wrong. OpenVMS and OS/400 both put linux to shame. OS/400 must really be good. I have never heard of it. probably because you're never operated or worked on a real computer. IBM main frame software engineer. I'm familiar with you IBM guys. I had to give a bunch of "IBM Software Engineers" classes on TCP/IP and SMTP because as a group, you couldn't figure out how to format email messages and drop them in a pickup folder to be sent. TCP/IP routing and DNS was a mystery that sent some of you to retirement because you couldn't make the transition from SNA. Really, you know us all? Retired MVS maven _and_ Linux expert. Lots of other stuff too numerous to list. Software developer since 1964. How do I know you are an idiot? Retired means not gifted enough to continue. No it can mean wealthy enough and doesn't need to work. OR maybe 80 years old. Maybe disabled. Maybe fulfilling his bucket list. Maybe mentoring. Or maybe many other things but not definitely not what you stated. -- Caver1 |
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New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via Network Connections
Nomen Nescio explained :
In article Anonymous wrote: Nomen Nescio expressed precisely : In article Anonymous wrote: After serious thinking Nomen Nescio wrote : In article Anonymous wrote: Nomen Nescio formulated the question : In article Anonymous wrote: Nomen Nescio expressed precisely : In article Melzzzzz wrote: On 2018-07-28, Richard Kettlewell wrote: Melzzzzz writes: I still can't see how anything related to network can be used to conclude that some data is from cache or memory. Care to explain how that can be concluded from eg communication with web server? The paper is not hard to find: https://misc0110.net/web/files/netspectre.pdf I have skimmed over paper, yet I see they need server side application... All they have to do is run linux and let the leakage begin. This simply doesn't make sense. Linux for years has proven to be the safest servers out there. Wrong. OpenVMS and OS/400 both put linux to shame. OS/400 must really be good. I have never heard of it. probably because you're never operated or worked on a real computer. IBM main frame software engineer. I'm familiar with you IBM guys. I had to give a bunch of "IBM Software Engineers" classes on TCP/IP and SMTP because as a group, you couldn't figure out how to format email messages and drop them in a pickup folder to be sent. TCP/IP routing and DNS was a mystery that sent some of you to retirement because you couldn't make the transition from SNA. Like a liberal democrat, you lump everyone into a corporate bundle. As for me, I was an IBM main frame software engineer, not an IBM enployee. Bet you were a whiz at COBOL. Assembler here, but had to maintain some passed down cobol bilge. |
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New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via Network Connections
Nomen Nescio formulated on Friday :
In article Dan Espen wrote: Nomen Nescio writes: In article Anonymous wrote: After serious thinking Nomen Nescio wrote : In article Anonymous wrote: Nomen Nescio formulated the question : In article Anonymous wrote: Nomen Nescio expressed precisely : In article Melzzzzz wrote: On 2018-07-28, Richard Kettlewell wrote: Melzzzzz writes: I still can't see how anything related to network can be used to conclude that some data is from cache or memory. Care to explain how that can be concluded from eg communication with web server? The paper is not hard to find: https://misc0110.net/web/files/netspectre.pdf I have skimmed over paper, yet I see they need server side application... All they have to do is run linux and let the leakage begin. This simply doesn't make sense. Linux for years has proven to be the safest servers out there. Wrong. OpenVMS and OS/400 both put linux to shame. OS/400 must really be good. I have never heard of it. probably because you're never operated or worked on a real computer. IBM main frame software engineer. I'm familiar with you IBM guys. I had to give a bunch of "IBM Software Engineers" classes on TCP/IP and SMTP because as a group, you couldn't figure out how to format email messages and drop them in a pickup folder to be sent. TCP/IP routing and DNS was a mystery that sent some of you to retirement because you couldn't make the transition from SNA. Really, you know us all? Retired MVS maven _and_ Linux expert. Lots of other stuff too numerous to list. Software developer since 1964. How do I know you are an idiot? Retired means not gifted enough to continue. Actually, not stupid enough to continue. My reason - Not going to put up with anymore nonsense from anyone. Their is no reason for someone to remain in the tyrannical work force if they can free themselves. It was amazing what constituted a problem in the places I worked. Very few places would just brush minor things off. Most treated every little problem as a major crisis. The prevailing attitudes we heads are going to roll. Some of the *******s I worked for were actually surprised when I decided to move on. Ross Perot's Electronic Data Systems, hiring mostly people out of the military, and run like the military, was the worst. Sieg Heil to all those little Hitlers. Liars, suppressors, hypocrites, little dictators. So continue to bow the knee, O' 'gifted enough' one. I am laughing at you and enjoying myself out here among the truly free. |
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