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I was happy for some time with Google Chrome performance as a whole.
However, recently I noticed a serious flaw: I think it's very cheeky that it seems to alter my security settings all by itself(!). NO I don't want to save ANY PASSWORDS NEVER for NO SITE. If it keeps changing this I will have to wipe the program off my hard disk altogether... I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? I have set Chrome as standard browser. And Explorer seems to know this, because after appearing it tells me Explorer is not the standard browser and asks me to make it standard. What's the logic of this behaviour?? -- regards, |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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Linea Recta wrote:
I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? Because it is pointed to IE. Like a shortcut to IE. The KB soft probably has a way to change it. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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"Linea Recta" wrote:
I was happy for some time with Google Chrome performance as a whole. However, recently I noticed a serious flaw: I think it's very cheeky that it seems to alter my security settings all by itself(!). NO I don't want to save ANY PASSWORDS NEVER for NO SITE. If it keeps changing this I will have to wipe the program off my hard disk altogether... I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? I have set Chrome as standard browser. And Explorer seems to know this, because after appearing it tells me Explorer is not the standard browser and asks me to make it standard. What's the logic of this behaviour?? Go into Chrome settings and make it the default browser . |
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"jim" schreef in bericht ... "Linea Recta" wrote: I was happy for some time with Google Chrome performance as a whole. However, recently I noticed a serious flaw: I think it's very cheeky that it seems to alter my security settings all by itself(!). NO I don't want to save ANY PASSWORDS NEVER for NO SITE. If it keeps changing this I will have to wipe the program off my hard disk altogether... I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? I have set Chrome as standard browser. And Explorer seems to know this, because after appearing it tells me Explorer is not the standard browser and asks me to make it standard. What's the logic of this behaviour?? Go into Chrome settings and make it the default browser . OK that's what it says already. Tested and OK. Still, sometimes IE keeps showing up unexpectidly... -- regards, |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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"dadiOH" schreef in bericht ... Linea Recta wrote: I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? Because it is pointed to IE. Like a shortcut to IE. The KB soft probably has a way to change it. -- I have a Microsoft keyboard and no special software installed. Just the Windows XP support (Configuration - keyboard - properties - Tab for speed settings - Tab Hardware - Standard keyboard (101/102 keys Microsoft Natural PS/2-keyboard) Of course I could use the Chrome shortcut on the desktop. But the intriguing this is that sometimes I can use the keyboard button to start Chrome, and on other occasions after pressing the button I have to wait looooong time and... MSIE shows up again(!) Behaviour seems inconsistent... -- regards, |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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Linea Recta wrote:
Linea Recta wrote: I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? I have a Microsoft keyboard and no special software installed. Just the Windows XP support (Configuration - keyboard - properties - Tab for speed settings - Tab Hardware - Standard keyboard (101/102 keys Microsoft Natural PS/2-keyboard) Of course I could use the Chrome shortcut on the desktop. But the intriguing this is that sometimes I can use the keyboard button to start Chrome, and on other occasions after pressing the button I have to wait looooong time and... MSIE shows up again(!) Behaviour seems inconsistent... Then you have to edit the registry. "Media" keyboards have some minimal or basic support in Windows. Some of the more common keys are defined in the registry but the keyboard has to provide the correct scancode to the associated media key in the registry. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer\AppKey Since this is a HKLM registry entry, any changes you make there will affect all users. If you share the host, other users are going to get ****ed if you change the definition of the same media keys they will be using on the same keyboard under the same instance of Windows. The subkeys each define a media key. Sorry, I don't what the numeric values for the registry keynames mean (probably associates to a common media key). Some old info is available at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../gg463446.aspx I had to go there to change regkey "18" so its ShellExecute data value pointed at the calcplus.exe (Microsoft's Calculator Plus) rather than the calc.plus that comes with Windows. Now when I press the "Calculator" media key on my keyboard, CalcPlus loads instead of Calculator. Under the "AppKey" registry key is a "7" subkey. Its only definition is and "Association" data name with "http" as its value. That means pressing the "Web" media key on your keyboard will load whatever handler is defined for the HTTP protocol. So you have a couple choices he - Alter the "7" key to see if you can load path\chrome.exe instead of the default HTTP handler. - Edit the HTTP association so it points at path\chrome.exe. - Make Chrome the default web browser so it becomes the default handler for the HTTP protocol. The handler (under the "shell" subkey) for the HTTP association can be found under: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http Seems like the last method would be the easiest. Just tell Chrome to be the default web browser (and configure all other web browsers NOT to check if they are the default). You could edit the HTTP association in the registry but changing option settings available in the web browsers would be easier and safer. Did you ever configure Chrome to be the default web browser? |
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"VanguardLH" schreef in bericht
... Linea Recta wrote: Linea Recta wrote: I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? I have a Microsoft keyboard and no special software installed. Just the Windows XP support (Configuration - keyboard - properties - Tab for speed settings - Tab Hardware - Standard keyboard (101/102 keys Microsoft Natural PS/2-keyboard) Of course I could use the Chrome shortcut on the desktop. But the intriguing this is that sometimes I can use the keyboard button to start Chrome, and on other occasions after pressing the button I have to wait looooong time and... MSIE shows up again(!) Behaviour seems inconsistent... Then you have to edit the registry. "Media" keyboards have some minimal or basic support in Windows. Some of the more common keys are defined in the registry but the keyboard has to provide the correct scancode to the associated media key in the registry. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer\AppKey Since this is a HKLM registry entry, any changes you make there will affect all users. If you share the host, other users are going to get ****ed if you change the definition of the same media keys they will be using on the same keyboard under the same instance of Windows. The subkeys each define a media key. Sorry, I don't what the numeric values for the registry keynames mean (probably associates to a common media key). Some old info is available at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../gg463446.aspx I had to go there to change regkey "18" so its ShellExecute data value pointed at the calcplus.exe (Microsoft's Calculator Plus) rather than the calc.plus that comes with Windows. Now when I press the "Calculator" media key on my keyboard, CalcPlus loads instead of Calculator. Under the "AppKey" registry key is a "7" subkey. Its only definition is and "Association" data name with "http" as its value. That means pressing the "Web" media key on your keyboard will load whatever handler is defined for the HTTP protocol. So you have a couple choices he - Alter the "7" key to see if you can load path\chrome.exe instead of the default HTTP handler. - Edit the HTTP association so it points at path\chrome.exe. - Make Chrome the default web browser so it becomes the default handler for the HTTP protocol. The handler (under the "shell" subkey) for the HTTP association can be found under: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http Seems like the last method would be the easiest. Just tell Chrome to be the default web browser (and configure all other web browsers NOT to check if they are the default). You could edit the HTTP association in the registry but changing option settings available in the web browsers would be easier and safer. Did you ever configure Chrome to be the default web browser? Thanks very much for your input. Answer to the last question is yes. Later on I realised I have been using CCleaner. Is it possible that it has removed some of these settings? I do have more function buttons on the keyboard but I don't use all of them. Anyway, Calculator always works OK. So does the button for OutlookExpress. I'll look into those reg keys more in depth asap. -- regards, |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message l... I was happy for some time with Google Chrome performance as a whole. However, recently I noticed a serious flaw: I think it's very cheeky that it seems to alter my security settings all by itself(!). NO I don't want to save ANY PASSWORDS NEVER for NO SITE. If it keeps changing this I will have to wipe the program off my hard disk altogether... I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? I have set Chrome as standard browser. And Explorer seems to know this, because after appearing it tells me Explorer is not the standard browser and asks me to make it standard. What's the logic of this behaviour?? -- regards, |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os It's always interesting to see people using, or fighting with, third party web-browsers ! I never use a 3rd party browser mainly because the vendors of these keep trying to inflict them on me ! e.g. Google home page, (upper right screen), had, for ages, a gadget like object that is crafted to to lure people into clicking on it, and so installing a massive heap of crap that people, many of whom are used to using the Rolls-Royce of web browsers (IE), ...then after a while trying to use the unwanted "Chome" can't understand it, don't want it, didn't want it in the first place, and it won't work properly. Then there is the multitude of conputer users that have, over a period of time, fiddled and tweaked their system, and IE, all over the place, have allowed a sackfull of browser add-ons to be hooked into IE, ...then wonder why IE won't work, then install a 3rd party browser as a solution to their ineptitude, the spout its' praises all over the place, and slag off IE all over the place becuase they are, unwittingly, mostly PC illiterate !!! It seems to be the case that most people who shout the praises of a 3rd party web browser, (who whilst blindly stabbing around all over their PC), praise that 3rd party browser because he or she managed to cripple IE by various routes. It takes a good deal of expertise, and a good deal of rejecting unwanted modifications to ones sytem, via millions of "web pages" that want to alter your system, that can cause problems with the normally superb functioning of IE A 3rd party web browser is simply a cop-out, because after contributing to the malfunctioning of IE, and not having the time or inclination, not to mention ability, to put it right, ...perhaps not even realising that ones dabbling caused the problems in the first place, ...the user of the 3rd party web browser who shouts it's praises all over the place, are actually, unwittingly, broadcasting their PC illiteracy ! :-) regards, Richard |
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I shouldn't feed the trolls, but ...
In message , RJK writes: "Linea Recta" wrote in message . nl... [] I have a "web" button on my keyboard. Why doesn't it understand that it has to start Chrome and not Explorer? Try to find out what pressing the button generates. Is it a Microsoft keyboard? Is there a configuration tool for the keyboard buried somewhere? I have set Chrome as standard browser. And Explorer seems to know this, because after appearing it tells me Explorer is not the standard browser and asks me to make it standard. What's the logic of this behaviour?? I think the keyboard button is "hardwired" - i. e. configured somewhere - to call Explorer (by which I presume you mean IE). So it does, and - since you've now made another browser your default - IE then asks. (Many browsers have, in that popup, a "do not ask this question again" - or, conversely, an "always ask this question when xxx starts" - tickbox; I don't know if IE does.) -- regards, |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os It's always interesting to see people using, or fighting with, third party web-browsers ! Or doing so with IE. I never use a 3rd party browser mainly because the vendors of these keep trying to inflict them on me ! By 3rd-party, I presume you mean anything other than IE. I don't recall anyone trying to inflict my choice - Firefox - on me. (I have heard the claim re Chrome.) e.g. Google home page, (upper right screen), had, for ages, a gadget like object that is crafted to to lure people into clicking on it, and so installing a massive heap of crap that people, many of whom are used to using the Rolls-Royce of web browsers (IE), ...then after a while trying to Ford, maybe ... (-: use the unwanted "Chome" can't understand it, don't want it, didn't want it in the first place, and it won't work properly. Then there is the multitude of conputer users that have, over a period of time, fiddled and tweaked their system, and IE, all over the place, have allowed a sackfull of browser add-ons to be hooked into IE, ...then wonder why IE won't work, then install a 3rd party browser as a solution to their ineptitude, the spout its' praises all over the place, and slag off IE all over the place becuase they are, unwittingly, mostly PC illiterate !!! My own preference - which is not strong, but since I have little trouble with Firefox (and before that Netscape) - for not using IE is mainly due to its (IMO; YMMV) excessive integration with the OS: changing things in the OS change them in IE, and vice versa. Of course, you may actually want that to happen. It seems to be the case that most people who shout the praises of a 3rd party web browser, (who whilst blindly stabbing around all over their PC), praise that 3rd party browser because he or she managed to cripple IE by various routes. You can cripple any browser. It takes a good deal of expertise, and a good deal of rejecting unwanted modifications to ones sytem, via millions of "web pages" that want to alter your system, that can cause problems with the normally superb functioning of IE Since it still has - I think - a majority, it is the biggest target for such tweaks (malicious or otherwise). That's enough reason for some people to use something else. (Since others - particularly Firefox - now have significant market share, they've become targets too, so this is now less of a valid point.) A 3rd party web browser is simply a cop-out, because after contributing to IYO. MMVs. the malfunctioning of IE, and not having the time or inclination, not to mention ability, to put it right, ...perhaps not even realising that ones dabbling caused the problems in the first place, ...the user of the 3rd party web browser who shouts it's praises all over the place, are actually, unwittingly, broadcasting their PC illiteracy ! :-) That's like saying drivers of diesel vehicles (let alone other alternatives) are "broadcasting their illiteracy with petrol engines". It's a choice, FFS! regards, Richard -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf - royalty, the Prime Minister, God, even Simon Cowell. - Carol Vorderman, in Radio Times, 27 October - 2 November 2012 |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... I shouldn't feed the trolls, but ... but, I've encountered so many people (and their PC's) that "chose," or if your like "resorted" to installing a 3rd party browser because they had crippled IE !!! Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web browser, and when IE waw restored to full funtionality - they were more than pleased to return to IE I've had my own problems with IE in the past, (all self inflicted :-), some so problematic that I once tried Firefox - (extensively) ... and eventually hated it ! Why pull the engine out of a Rolls-Royce and stuff a mini engine into it ? regards, Richard |
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In "RJK"
wrote: Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web browser, Invariably? Not likely. -- St. Paul, MN |
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In message , RJK
writes: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... I shouldn't feed the trolls, but ... but, I've encountered so many people (and their PC's) that "chose," or if your like "resorted" to installing a 3rd party browser because they had crippled IE !!! Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web browser, and when IE waw restored to full funtionality - they were more than pleased to return to IE As bert says, definitely not invariably! I for one am happy with Firefox - it's not perfect, but I think at least as good as the version of IE I could run on XP. (I also like the plugin - or whatever term is preferred today - philosophy around it; YMMV.) I've had my own problems with IE in the past, (all self inflicted :-), some so problematic that I once tried Firefox - (extensively) ... and eventually hated it ! Why pull the engine out of a Rolls-Royce and stuff a mini engine into it ? However, if you put in - as they have - a good BMW engine, ... [Personally I dislike the appearance of modern RRs, but I'd be surprised if, from the engine point of view, they're not more reliable and efficient than the old ones.] I'd not agree that IE is a RR engine, anyway - though it _is_ competent. From the usability POV, there's actually little to choose between them; as I said earlier, I just dislike the (to me) excessive integration with the OS. If you _like_ that, fine. regards, Richard I would agree about XP being a Rolls-Royce, though. (Even to the extent that it needs some care to keep it running!) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Everyone learns from science. It all depends how you use the knowledge. - "Gil Grissom" (CSI). |
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"Bert" wrote in message ... In "RJK" wrote: Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web browser, Invariably? Not likely. -- St. Paul, MN ? ...I didn't use that word for fun. ALL, whose PC's I help with use IE, the handfull of people that installed Mozilla, (as a solution!) were very pleased when their IE problems were resolved. regards, Richard |
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In message , RJK
writes: "Bert" wrote in message . .. In "RJK" wrote: Invariably they became unhappy with the substitute web browser, Invariably? Not likely. -- St. Paul, MN ? ...I didn't use that word for fun. ALL, whose PC's I help with use IE, the handfull of people that installed Mozilla, (as a solution!) were very pleased when their IE problems were resolved. regards, Richard Possibly the ones who actually like Mozilla (or one of the other browsers) no longer come to you for help (perhaps in part because they disagree with your IE-is-best view, and maybe don't want to hurt your feelings). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A clean, neat and orderly desk is a sign of a sick mind. (G6JPG's mind is clearly extremely healthy ...) |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , RJK writes: " ... I just dislike the (to me) excessive integration with the OS. If you _like_ that, fine." regards, Richard I never really understood the debacle in the courts over IE. ...and to continue for a moment with the motor car analogy :-) ...aftermarket parts never really cut it, compared to OEM ! It seemed to me that, to fight for a share share of the web browser market, to be used on someone elses operating system, was just irrashional. And the "Browser Choice" KB was a significant annoyance for the majority of people who were happy with IE !!!!! Why not also pursue a legal claim to have multiple choice for the file browser, ... or Control Panel, ....or the Windows Desktop :-) ? regards, Richard |
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