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Win 7 Pro - Recycle Bin View Setting Changed
For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown. Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles. Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are still the way I want them. Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term? DC |
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Win 7 Pro - Recycle Bin View Setting Changed
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 17:23:04 -0400, Paul wrote:
wrote: For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently it changed, for reasons unknown. Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles. Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are still the way I want them. Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term? DC Does the folder have a desktop.ini file ? The desktop.ini file is a text file with a couple of lines of text in it. It will mention "shell32.dll" as well as a number. And the number indicates the "kind of view" that file explorer is supposed to use. And shell32.dll (or whatever file it names there), is the piece of software that renders the view. My guess is, a desktop.ini was created, when none was desired. And you can't very well throw it in the trash, because it is already in the trash. And the trash is a Reparse Point, and the actual storage of trash is on each separate partition (C: trash is stored on C: drive, D: trash is stored on D: drive). It would be "slightly tricky" to remove. And my experience with desktop.ini, is the view does not change back. If you throw 100% images into the trash, it might mistakenly switch to image library view. And show you thumbnails etc. If you then throw 100% text files into the trash, it isn't smart enough to switch out of image library view. I don't know the solution, but those are possibly some of the ingredients. You're working in a tricky spot, with potential "looping" conditions. Ideally, you would want to issue "del somepath\desktop.ini" from a Command Prompt window, but the question then is, what is the value of "somepath" ? I haven't a clue. I'm not even sure, if I had a Linux LiveCD, whether I could locate and remove the correct desktop.ini file. There could be a couple hundred of those on C:. Are we having fun yet ? :-) Paul Thanks Paul. I'll keep looking for ideas and let you know if I solve it. DC |
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On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 17:23:04 -0400, Paul wrote: wrote: For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently it changed, for reasons unknown. Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles. Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are still the way I want them. Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term? DC Does the folder have a desktop.ini file ? The desktop.ini file is a text file with a couple of lines of text in it. It will mention "shell32.dll" as well as a number. And the number indicates the "kind of view" that file explorer is supposed to use. And shell32.dll (or whatever file it names there), is the piece of software that renders the view. My guess is, a desktop.ini was created, when none was desired. And you can't very well throw it in the trash, because it is already in the trash. And the trash is a Reparse Point, and the actual storage of trash is on each separate partition (C: trash is stored on C: drive, D: trash is stored on D: drive). It would be "slightly tricky" to remove. And my experience with desktop.ini, is the view does not change back. If you throw 100% images into the trash, it might mistakenly switch to image library view. And show you thumbnails etc. If you then throw 100% text files into the trash, it isn't smart enough to switch out of image library view. I don't know the solution, but those are possibly some of the ingredients. You're working in a tricky spot, with potential "looping" conditions. Ideally, you would want to issue "del somepath\desktop.ini" from a Command Prompt window, but the question then is, what is the value of "somepath" ? I haven't a clue. I'm not even sure, if I had a Linux LiveCD, whether I could locate and remove the correct desktop.ini file. There could be a couple hundred of those on C:. Are we having fun yet ? :-) Paul Thanks Paul. I'll keep looking for ideas and let you know if I solve it. DC There's an example here. Later OSes, the desktop.ini file becomes more complicated. But it could be responsible for the "view" in the trash. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/ So I fired up a Win7 virtual machine. Put some files in the trash as a marker, tried to mess up the view (but didn't get your results), booted Linux and navigated here. As I have a fair idea where I'm going to find it. It'll be down in my SID. /media/mint/0674B4CC74B4C02B/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3342901484-1885727002-3431902271-1000/desktop.ini In Linux, when you click the Win7 C: drive, it mounts it with a disk identifier it could find, rather than using the label I didn't happen to put on the partition. So clicking the partition, gives us this much of the path. In Linux, you use the "df" command to see the currently mounted partitions (the ones you clicked to open). /media/mint/0674B4CC74B4C02B The $Recycle.Bin is presumably the trash (because I could find the discarded files in there). This identifier, is the SID (security identifier) of the account. S-1-5-21-3342901484-1885727002-3431902271-1000 If you need to see the defined accounts, in an elevated (administrator) Command Prompt window, you can do this to list them while you're still in Windows. wmic useraccount get name,sid But on this machine, there is only one user account and the "1000" on the end is usually the primary user account. Now in that folder, I could find "desktop.ini". I'm working in Linux (Linux Mint Mate 17.1 x32), and permissions and visibility are not a problem there. I don't need to use Tools : View or change any attrib to make the file visible there. These were the contents - kinda surprising, as I was expecting more lines of text to be present. [.ShellClassInfo] CLSID={645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E} LocalizedResourceName=@%SystemRoot%\system32\shell 32.dll,-8964 If I wanted to stop that view from being used, I would just delete the desktop.ini file (this would likely ruin the Trash Can icon). In Linux that would be rm /media/mint/0674B4CC74B4C02B/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3342901484-1885727002-3431902271-1000/desktop.ini and then it is gone. Another interesting thing, was the contents of the folder, the deleted files. There were two files for every file chucked into the trash. I used some 107MB TIFF files, and for every file discarded, a small (544 byte) file was also created. And in that file, is the "path" of the original file. So the small file tells the software, how to put the file back if the user wants to do that. Both the large file and small file would be removed, when you select empty trash in Windows. So I did manage to successfully find the file I was looking for. If you happen to find the errant desktop.ini, open it with the Linux text editor, and record what is in there. As I'm curious as to what "view" it got stuck in. Now, I found the same desktop.ini file here in this thread. http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...us-579725.html And that tells me that the "-8964" is what is used to cause the Trash Can to be drawn. So whatever is buggering up the thing, *might* be any *additional* lines of text in the file. If you find just this bit [.ShellClassInfo] CLSID={645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E} LocalizedResourceName=@%SystemRoot%\system32\shell 32.dll,-8964 then there is no reason to delete it. Whatever state it's in, it would need to be additional lines of stuff messing it up. While you can find and edit that file in Windows, it'll require some amount of messing around to get at it. To be traded off against figuring out how to use a Linux LiveCD :-) The only reason I'm fixated on that file, is I don't know any other storage places off hand, to store the view info. There are the ShellBags, but I thought those stored icon position. Navigating to the above file, is where I'd look first, for an answer. But further work may be required. If I could reproduce your current view, that would make it easier to locate. The VM I'm using right now is a throwaway, and as soon as I delete the .vhd file, all my changes are gone. I keep compressed clean ones, for the next experiment. Paul |
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Win 7 Pro - Recycle Bin View Setting Changed
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 15:35:21 -0500, wrote:
For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently it changed, for reasons unknown. Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles. Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are still the way I want them. Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term? DC At the moment the view setting is being remembered by Win 7, so I'm going to leave it alone and see if it lasts. However, I think I found the fix, if I need it, This article explains why Win 7 would not retain a view setting for a folder, and it gives the choice of an easy fix (patch) or an automatic repair. http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...-view-settings The original detailed manual fix or the automatic repair of that and other explorer issues is he https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/813711 If I need to try one of these (I'm assuming I will), I'll report back. DC |
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Win 7 Pro - Recycle Bin View Setting Changed
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 15:35:21 -0500, wrote:
For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently it changed, for reasons unknown. Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles. Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are still the way I want them. Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term? DC I think it's finally fixed. Been working fine for 3 days, after running MicrosoftFixit.WinFileFolder.MATSKB.Run.exe downloaded from the Microsoft Fix it Run Now link on this page: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/813711 It's a 339KB file that let's you choose automatic operation or you can let it find the problem(s) and choose what you want to fix. I selected the latter and let it fix the View Settings for folders. Could not have been easier. DC |
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