No videos on Youtube

On 05/10/2018 16:06, Tim Slattery wrote:
The other day Firefox updated itself to 62.0.3,

How and did you find out why? There are solutions but you won't know
them if you don't ask in the correct newsgroup.

I suggest forget about using Windows. Have you thought of using
something else to play games?




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Tim Slattery wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Tim Slattery wrote:

Weatherman wrote:

Hmm, You Tube works just fine on my Win 10 machine with the latest
Firefox. Sure it's not just a setting in FF?

The other day Firefox updated itself to 62.0.3, and now Youtube videos
work just fine. Among other things, the "What's new" page says: "Fixed
playback of some encrypted video streams on macOS (bug 1491940)". I'm
running Win10, as previously stated, but I wonder if that fixed my
problem?

The bug about Flash is about problems on Mac OS/X, not on Windows, nor
did the fix apply anything in the code branch for the Windows version:
see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1491940. Code change
is at https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozi...v/dc99e844c2af.

Also, Adobe's Flash has its own sandbox aka protected mode which, I
think, enabled by default. It has problems when ran used another
sandbox. Of course, Flash has a whole slew of security problems. To
get protected mode to work reliably on a host where sandboxing is used,
you added an exception to the sandbox's rule to not sandbox the Flash
process. Of course, the sandbox was to add security but to use Flash
you had to open the sandbox to allow an potentially hazardous program to
load and run.

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/air/htm...0204-7e3f.html

Per the bug ticket, the problem was using Flash's sandbox on Mac.
Presumably disabling protected mode would let it play the DRM content.
Analysis revealed the problem was with not having write permissions to
some paths/folders regarding certs for DRM encrypted content, and such
pathing would be unique to the Linux-based Mac OS. Windows doesn't use
the same paths or even the same rwxrwxrwx (read-write-execute on user,
group, and other) permissions scheme.

You're still using Flash in your web browser? That is, you have the
Adobe Flash plug-in installed into Firefox? I disabled Flash a long
ago. At first, I left the plug-in installed but set to "Never activate"
just in case I really needed Flash and could then temporarily set to
"Always activate". Eventually I got rid of the plug-in. Flash is dead,
well, at least, in its death throes.

Adobe is dumping Flash in 2020, so it won't be much longer you can use
Flash inside a web browser. Mozilla (and Google even sooner) dumped
support for plug-ins due to security issues with that coding model and
running in and having the same permissions as the parent process for the
web browser. Flash is the last plug-in Mozilla supports but that code
gets removed in 2019, even before Adobe kills Flash.

https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/
https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/25/tec...killing-flash/

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...lash-end-life/

VanguardLH wrote:
Tim Slattery wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Tim Slattery wrote:

Weatherman wrote:

Hmm, You Tube works just fine on my Win 10 machine with the latest
Firefox. Sure it's not just a setting in FF?
The other day Firefox updated itself to 62.0.3, and now Youtube videos
work just fine. Among other things, the "What's new" page says: "Fixed
playback of some encrypted video streams on macOS (bug 1491940)". I'm
running Win10, as previously stated, but I wonder if that fixed my
problem?

The bug about Flash is about problems on Mac OS/X, not on Windows, nor
did the fix apply anything in the code branch for the Windows version:
see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1491940. Code change
is at https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozi...v/dc99e844c2af.

Also, Adobe's Flash has its own sandbox aka protected mode which, I
think, enabled by default. It has problems when ran used another
sandbox. Of course, Flash has a whole slew of security problems. To
get protected mode to work reliably on a host where sandboxing is used,
you added an exception to the sandbox's rule to not sandbox the Flash
process. Of course, the sandbox was to add security but to use Flash
you had to open the sandbox to allow an potentially hazardous program to
load and run.

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/air/htm...0204-7e3f.html

Per the bug ticket, the problem was using Flash's sandbox on Mac.
Presumably disabling protected mode would let it play the DRM content.
Analysis revealed the problem was with not having write permissions to
some paths/folders regarding certs for DRM encrypted content, and such
pathing would be unique to the Linux-based Mac OS. Windows doesn't use
the same paths or even the same rwxrwxrwx (read-write-execute on user,
group, and other) permissions scheme.

You're still using Flash in your web browser? That is, you have the
Adobe Flash plug-in installed into Firefox? I disabled Flash a long
ago. At first, I left the plug-in installed but set to "Never activate"
just in case I really needed Flash and could then temporarily set to
"Always activate". Eventually I got rid of the plug-in. Flash is dead,
well, at least, in its death throes.

Adobe is dumping Flash in 2020, so it won't be much longer you can use
Flash inside a web browser. Mozilla (and Google even sooner) dumped
support for plug-ins due to security issues with that coding model and
running in and having the same permissions as the parent process for the
web browser. Flash is the last plug-in Mozilla supports but that code
gets removed in 2019, even before Adobe kills Flash.

https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/
https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/25/tec...killing-flash/

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...lash-end-life/

It's quite likely that Youtube plays video in HTML5.

In Mar.2016, youtube-dl might show formats like this.

36 3gp 320x240
5 flv 400x240 === Flash
43 webm 640x360 === HTML5 ???
18 mp4 640x360
22 mp4 1280x720 (best)

Whereas in 2018, I might see this.

36 3gp 320x180 small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2
43 webm 640x360 medium , vp8.0, vorbis@128k ===
18 mp4 640x360 medium , avc1.42001E, mp4a.40.2@ 96k
22 mp4 1280x720 hd720 , avc1.64001F, mp4a.40.2@192k (best)

I have TV news websites here that still use Flash.
My browsers might decide to not play them, but
Youtube-dl gets them.

Paul

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:31:08 -0400, Paul
wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:
Tim Slattery wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Tim Slattery wrote:

Weatherman wrote:

Hmm, You Tube works just fine on my Win 10 machine with the latest
Firefox. Sure it's not just a setting in FF?
The other day Firefox updated itself to 62.0.3, and now Youtube videos
work just fine. Among other things, the "What's new" page says: "Fixed
playback of some encrypted video streams on macOS (bug 1491940)". I'm
running Win10, as previously stated, but I wonder if that fixed my
problem?

The bug about Flash is about problems on Mac OS/X, not on Windows, nor
did the fix apply anything in the code branch for the Windows version:
see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1491940. Code change
is at https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozi...v/dc99e844c2af.

Also, Adobe's Flash has its own sandbox aka protected mode which, I
think, enabled by default. It has problems when ran used another
sandbox. Of course, Flash has a whole slew of security problems. To
get protected mode to work reliably on a host where sandboxing is used,
you added an exception to the sandbox's rule to not sandbox the Flash
process. Of course, the sandbox was to add security but to use Flash
you had to open the sandbox to allow an potentially hazardous program to
load and run.

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/air/htm...0204-7e3f.html

Per the bug ticket, the problem was using Flash's sandbox on Mac.
Presumably disabling protected mode would let it play the DRM content.
Analysis revealed the problem was with not having write permissions to
some paths/folders regarding certs for DRM encrypted content, and such
pathing would be unique to the Linux-based Mac OS. Windows doesn't use
the same paths or even the same rwxrwxrwx (read-write-execute on user,
group, and other) permissions scheme.

You're still using Flash in your web browser? That is, you have the
Adobe Flash plug-in installed into Firefox? I disabled Flash a long
ago. At first, I left the plug-in installed but set to "Never activate"
just in case I really needed Flash and could then temporarily set to
"Always activate". Eventually I got rid of the plug-in. Flash is dead,
well, at least, in its death throes.

Adobe is dumping Flash in 2020, so it won't be much longer you can use
Flash inside a web browser. Mozilla (and Google even sooner) dumped
support for plug-ins due to security issues with that coding model and
running in and having the same permissions as the parent process for the
web browser. Flash is the last plug-in Mozilla supports but that code
gets removed in 2019, even before Adobe kills Flash.

https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/
https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/25/tec...killing-flash/

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...lash-end-life/

It's quite likely that Youtube plays video in HTML5.

In Mar.2016, youtube-dl might show formats like this.

36 3gp 320x240
5 flv 400x240 === Flash
43 webm 640x360 === HTML5 ???
18 mp4 640x360
22 mp4 1280x720 (best)

Whereas in 2018, I might see this.

36 3gp 320x180 small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2
43 webm 640x360 medium , vp8.0, vorbis@128k ===
18 mp4 640x360 medium , avc1.42001E, mp4a.40.2@ 96k
22 mp4 1280x720 hd720 , avc1.64001F, mp4a.40.2@192k (best)

I have TV news websites here that still use Flash.
My browsers might decide to not play them, but
Youtube-dl gets them.

10-four fox for G4 and G5 no longer plays youtube even when
updated to the latest.

Paul

Ken Blake wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 11:06:29 -0400, Tim Slattery
wrote:

The other day Firefox updated itself to 62.0.3, and now Youtube videos
work just fine. Among other things, the "What's new" page says: "Fixed
playback of some encrypted video streams on macOS (bug 1491940)". I'm
running Win10, as previously stated, but I wonder if that fixed my
problem?


I hadn't had any trouble with YouTube, but I've had a minor FireFox
issue since upgrading to FireFox 62.0.3 and Windows 1809 (I'm not sure
which of those upgrades was responsible). Except for the current tab,
all of the other tabs turn black for a while, then turn back to gray.
It's not a giant problem, but it's a nuisance.

Microsoft has frozen the rollout of 1809, but that's because it was
deleting files in some cases.

--
Tim Slattery
tim at risingdove dot com

Ken Blake wrote:

since upgrading to FireFox 62.0.3 and Windows 1809 (I'm not sure
which of those upgrades was responsible). Except for the current tab,
all of the other tabs turn black for a while, then turn back to gray.
It's not a giant problem, but it's a nuisance.

Possibly the Windows upgrade has given you a different video driver to
before, can you locate one (upgrade or downgrade) from the H/W manufacturer?

On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:50:35 -0400, Tim Slattery
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 11:06:29 -0400, Tim Slattery
wrote:

The other day Firefox updated itself to 62.0.3, and now Youtube videos
work just fine. Among other things, the "What's new" page says: "Fixed
playback of some encrypted video streams on macOS (bug 1491940)". I'm
running Win10, as previously stated, but I wonder if that fixed my
problem?


I hadn't had any trouble with YouTube, but I've had a minor FireFox
issue since upgrading to FireFox 62.0.3 and Windows 1809 (I'm not sure
which of those upgrades was responsible). Except for the current tab,
all of the other tabs turn black for a while, then turn back to gray.
It's not a giant problem, but it's a nuisance.

Microsoft has frozen the rollout of 1809, but that's because it was
deleting files in some cases.


Yes, I know. But I'm not one of those cases.

I'm now running the Colorful Tabs Extension,which fixed the problem. I
don't particularly like the way it looks, but I prefer it to the way
it was.