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#16
September 25th 07, 10:44 PM
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my defragmenter is broken
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far simpler to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same objective and not be so destructive. In any event there are far better ways to disable items in Start if you need to. I tried safe mode and ran analyze said i should defrag so I did but the results were the same. Defrag complete but analyze still says i should defrag. Here is the report. Volume (C  Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 6.44 GB Free space = 8.21 GB Percent free space = 56 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 12 % File fragmentation = 24 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 29,929 Average file size = 425 KB Total fragmented files = 9 Total excess fragments = 434 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,877 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 32,928 Percent MFT in use = 71 % Total MFT fragments = 3 
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#17
September 25th 07, 10:52 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, what is fragged is the page file.
Madx wrote: "Gerry" wrote in message ... Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far simpler to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same objective and not be so destructive. In any event there are far better ways to disable items in Start if you need to. I tried safe mode and ran analyze said i should defrag so I did but the results were the same. Defrag complete but analyze still says i should defrag. Here is the report. Volume (C Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 6.44 GB Free space = 8.21 GB Percent free space = 56 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 12 % File fragmentation = 24 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 29,929 Average file size = 425 KB Total fragmented files = 9 Total excess fragments = 434 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,877 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 32,928 Percent MFT in use = 71 % Total MFT fragments = 3
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#18
September 25th 07, 11:31 PM
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my defragmenter is broken
Madx
I agree with Bob that your Report does not indicate any real problems. You may be able to get the pagefile more contiguous i.e. reduce the number of fragments. Set the pagefile to Zero and restart the computer. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point? Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. You can check the result by then do another Analyse with Disk Defragmenter and comparing the result with this: Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: "Gerry" wrote in message ... Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far simpler to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same objective and not be so destructive. In any event there are far better ways to disable items in Start if you need to. I tried safe mode and ran analyze said i should defrag so I did but the results were the same. Defrag complete but analyze still says i should defrag. Here is the report. Volume (C Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 6.44 GB Free space = 8.21 GB Percent free space = 56 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 12 % File fragmentation = 24 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 29,929 Average file size = 425 KB Total fragmented files = 9 Total excess fragments = 434 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,877 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 32,928 Percent MFT in use = 71 % Total MFT fragments = 3
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#19
September 26th 07, 03:35 PM
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"Gerry" wrote in message ... Madx I agree with Bob that your Report does not indicate any real problems. You may be able to get the pagefile more contiguous i.e. reduce the number of fragments. Set the pagefile to Zero and restart the computer. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point? Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. You can check the result by then do another Analyse with Disk Defragmenter and comparing the result with this: Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 I set the pagefile to 0 and cleaned up restore, restarted, ran defrag same results only got to 13% compacting and then got the complete message. Also I do not see any green block on the color graph? Here is the new report. Is there anything else I can try? Thank you Volume (C Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 3.95 GB Free space = 10.70 GB Percent free space = 73 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation = 2 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 28,152 Average file size = 280 KB Total fragmented files = 1 Total excess fragments = 374 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 0 bytes Total fragments = 0 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,824 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 31,068 Percent MFT in use = 67 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None
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#20
September 26th 07, 05:16 PM
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You have not completed what I suggessted.
Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. It is the pagefile that comprises the green block. No pagefile = no green block -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: "Gerry" wrote in message ... Madx I agree with Bob that your Report does not indicate any real problems. You may be able to get the pagefile more contiguous i.e. reduce the number of fragments. Set the pagefile to Zero and restart the computer. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point? Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. You can check the result by then do another Analyse with Disk Defragmenter and comparing the result with this: Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 I set the pagefile to 0 and cleaned up restore, restarted, ran defrag same results only got to 13% compacting and then got the complete message. Also I do not see any green block on the color graph? Here is the new report. Is there anything else I can try? Thank you Volume (C Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 3.95 GB Free space = 10.70 GB Percent free space = 73 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation = 2 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 28,152 Average file size = 280 KB Total fragmented files = 1 Total excess fragments = 374 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 0 bytes Total fragments = 0 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,824 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 31,068 Percent MFT in use = 67 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None
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#21
September 26th 07, 11:31 PM
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my defragmenter is broken
"Gerry" wrote in message ... You have not completed what I suggessted. Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. It is the pagefile that comprises the green block. No pagefile = no green block -- I went back and to make sure amd the pagefile is1500mb max 1500 mb (the units were in mb not gb so I guessed at 1500) min I guess i just copied the wrong report. So here is the latest report. I go to analyze and it says I should defrag but the defrag stops after 13% compacting and then I get the complete message. Volume (C Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 5.35 GB Free space = 9.30 GB Percent free space = 63 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 14 % File fragmentation = 29 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 28,269 Average file size = 345 KB Total fragmented files = 2 Total excess fragments = 378 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.46 GB Total fragments = 5 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,831 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 31,194 Percent MFT in use = 68 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None
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#22
September 27th 07, 07:50 AM
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Madx
What is your anti-virus programme? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: "Gerry" wrote in message ... You have not completed what I suggessted. Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. It is the pagefile that comprises the green block. No pagefile = no green block -- I went back and to make sure amd the pagefile is1500mb max 1500 mb (the units were in mb not gb so I guessed at 1500) min I guess i just copied the wrong report. So here is the latest report. I go to analyze and it says I should defrag but the defrag stops after 13% compacting and then I get the complete message. Volume (C Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 5.35 GB Free space = 9.30 GB Percent free space = 63 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 14 % File fragmentation = 29 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 28,269 Average file size = 345 KB Total fragmented files = 2 Total excess fragments = 378 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.46 GB Total fragments = 5 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,831 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 31,194 Percent MFT in use = 68 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None
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September 27th 07, 02:38 PM
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"Gerry" wrote in message ... Madx What is your anti-virus programme? avg
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#24
September 27th 07, 05:35 PM
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Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk
CleanUp. http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp http://www.ccleaner.com/ With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also offers backup before removal. When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can easily be re-entered. Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. Then Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore points? Then see if Disk Defragmenter misbehaves. Are you using Hibernation? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: "Gerry" wrote in message ... Madx What is your anti-virus programme? avg
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#25
September 27th 07, 06:12 PM
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my defragmenter is broken
"Gerry" wrote in message ... Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp. http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp http://www.ccleaner.com/ With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also offers backup before removal. When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can easily be re-entered. Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. Then Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore points? Then see if Disk Defragmenter misbehaves. Are you using Hibernation? I don't use hibernation. I have been using ccleaner ran it again removed restore pts as requested, defrag still not working. In the past I have scanned for issues and fixed them did it fix something it shouldn't have? I have also used winaso could that have broken defragmenter? But mostly when I have run that I also ran defragmenter and it always worked before. Well everything else is working fine on my computer so not sure why defrag program isn't.
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