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Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad
VanguardLH
Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: VanguardLH Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: I use Notepad everyday [...] snipped the Google diatribe You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad? Insert emoticon for "Where'd you find this asshole?" snipped all the loser drivel and snibbling |
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Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:50:13 -0600, KenW wrote:
Hasn't everyone switched to Notepad ++ ? Of course not (but you undoubtedly know that). Most people have never even heard of it. Even I haven't switched to it. Yes, it's better than Notepad. I have it installed, and it's there for when I need its capabilities, but in the great majority of situations my text editing needs are very slight and the very simple Notepad is fine for me. |
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Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:
VanguardLH Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: VanguardLH Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: I use Notepad everyday [...] snipped the Google diatribe You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad? Insert emoticon for "Where'd you find this asshole?" snipped all the loser drivel and snibbling See how well your attitude has engendered helpful replies from others? You act indignant that you got back the attitude you gave. A child's reaction. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
See how well your attitude has engendered helpful replies from others? You act indignant that you got back the attitude you gave. A child's reaction. Seems to me his reaction is the same as your typical reaction VanguardLH. |
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Alexander Shofner-Geidt:
I use Notepad everyday, all through the day, consistently since the Windows 9x days of lore and legend - back when it was the wild and wooly web, when you had only the two knobs, horizontal and vertical, to turn in order to make images on the screen and if you made a mistake, you had to turn it upside down and shake it to start all over... or so it seems... anyway, As of Windows 10 update to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.1; and its subsequent "fix" to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.55, Notepad's code got corrupted. With Notepad's Format set to Word Wrap, Randomly, when I copy text to Notepad, at the line break, it will randomly cut a word in the interior of the word and continue the word on the next line. Any attempt to correct it and reconnect the word on the appropriate line results in a bevy of cascading format errors which requires a manual edit of the entire paragraph, line by line. This has to be traceable to some minor change some programmer made to the Notepad code in this latest major update from v1803 to v1809, right? Can somebody close to Mr. Bill Gates ask him to correct this as soon as possible because it sure is costing me a lot of time? (I can't believe NOBODY else has experienced this boogaboo... but perhaps Google is complicit in yet another #Globalist coverup to divert the collective American attention to a non-existant "Russian collusion" delusion whilst Google is helping the Chinese and Latin American countries invade and control our country using weak-minded #Democrats in political positions to pave our ultimate demise while they chase their ephemeral 'personal power complex[es]'...) Notepad users, UNITE! This is full-on crisis mode. Thanks in advance. Notice how I said "I use Notepad almost everyday"... Then some moron says "You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad?" And then starts chopping and insulting me and my original post!?! Very bad netiquette! S/he/it/them could simply edit out any extraneous information, from h/er/is/its/their perspective and proceed with an intelligent and civil request/response for clarification -- if indeed a responsive inquiry was sincere... But OH NO! S/he/it/them just has to be a jerk, and probably still stalks my posts making orthogonal remarks. For the record: I was able to identify the cause of the widespread issue and the work-around solution. Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: VanguardLH Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: VanguardLH Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: I use Notepad everyday [...] snipped the Google diatribe You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad? Insert emoticon for "Where'd you find this asshole?" snipped all the loser drivel and snibbling |
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Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:
Notice how I said "I use Notepad almost everyday"... Then some moron says "You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad?" Nobody here has the source to Notepad to edit it for you. It's not likely that a post here will result in any tangible change. Come back in two years, Notepad will be just as bad. So by posting here, you were expecting some kind of response. What kind of response were you expecting ? The Notepad feature set has been feeble for 20 years, and only recently did they do something about it. But, on the other hand, that doesn't imply they're taking ownership or interested in listening to input. Any more than the "heavily promoted" MSEdge browser is anywhere near feature complete. And they've been working on that for years. ******* I tested Notepad in Windows 10. This is what I noticed. 1) Notepad freezes up when enabling Word Wrap on any sort of large file. This is to be expected. However, with the sloppy wrapping function visible today, you'd expect that was done to change the O() behavior of the tool. And it still freezes up. So that's not why it wraps the way it does. It's not a speed optimization. You shouldn't use word-wrap on 500MB files. I don't think any algorithm is available for this that is O(0). Word-wrap will never scale well. And I don't think that's how you're using it anyway, as you did not complain about freeze/crash. Don't waste your time testing word-wrap on large files. You'll just end up hammering the task in Task Manager. 2) Wikipedia describes two algorithms for "word wrap". One is "greedy lines", where the edges of the text are ragged, but the method tried to use as few lines as possible. For long words, this has the nice "pouring" behavior, where words are not split on syllables or anything. The second method is "least ragged text", where the sum of the squares of end-white-space is minimized, and line breaks are selected so that there won't be a lot of "short lines", as they would add a lot to the sum of squares. Some methods are claimed to be O(n^2), while there is an area of research that gives O(n) behavior. But the Wikipedia article doesn't describe what the output of the O(n) method looks like. When I tested some random text (with a few really long words) in Win10, the algorithm defied description, because some of what it was doing was not conventional wrap. And it was flipping back and forth between solutions as the line length changed. (Not the same kind of flipping you see with the "greedy" algorithm used on other things. The greedy method pours around corners.) The conclusion would be, for applications requiring word wrap, a different tool will be needed. One that follows conventions. What it's doing right now, isn't wrapping. It's "Glad-tie-and-toss algorithm". I have random number generators here that would do a better job. Then it would depend on whether you considered the normal Microsoft choice of "greedy" for their other tools, was an acceptable solution. ******* Note that when editing in Unicode mode, you can use some particular (i.e. non-conventional) characters for wrap control when you want a fixed table. But don't expect this to work. Other methods include "Shift+Enter" and "Ctrl+Shift+Space". The latter two symbols may be too new for any tool to support them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline NEL: Next Line, U+0085 LS: Line Separator, U+2028 PS: Paragraph Separator, U+2029 You could spend hours figuring out which knobs Notepad supports, and whether they apply to your editing task. Paul |
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On 10/16/18 08:03, nospam wrote:
In article , Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote: Can somebody close to Mr. Bill Gates ask him to correct this as soon as possible because it sure is costing me a lot of time? mr. bill gates is no longer running microsoft and most likely doesn't give a **** about notepad. nobody at micro-shaft gives a **** about customers any more. -- (aka 'Bombastic Bob' in case you wondered) 'Feeling with my fingers, and thinking with my brain' - me 'your story is so touching, but it sounds just like a lie' "Straighten up and fly right" |
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