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Page file and VM problems
I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and
eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora |
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DFD typed: I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. Pagefile.sys is in C:\ unless you've explicitly turned it off or moved it. Your problem is that it's a hidden system file, and Windows, by default, is set to hide these. In My Computer or Windows Explorer, go to Tools | Folde Options. On the View tab, click the Radio Button "Show hidden files and folders" and click OK. You should now be able to see pagefile.sys. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup |
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Hi, Dora.
Are you logged in as an Administrator of this computer? If so, then go to System Properties | Advanced | Performance/Settings | Advanced. What do you see at the bottom of this screen, just above the Change button? The line should say "Total paging file size for all drives", and the number should be 1.5 times your RAM, by default. Another way to verify that you do, in fact, have a page file is to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager, then click the Performance tab. Look at Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. The difference is your page file. Pagefile.sys is always created in the Root of a volume (the Boot Volume by default), with the Hidden and System attributes, so it doesn't appear in normal directory listings. The file can be created in a different volume, but it will always be in the Root of that volume. So, the first place to look in the typical WinXP is C:\pagefile.sys, and be sure you can see the System and Hidden files. If you have other volumes, look in the Root of each (D:\, E:\, etc.) You can open a "DOS" window and use the Dir command with the /a switch to show All files, no matter their attributes: dir c:\ /a If you click on that Change button I mentioned above, you should see a page that shows which volume WinXP is using, and you can change your settings there. First, choose each volume and click No paging file and then Set. Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. MVP Alex Nichol knows more about Virtual Memory than most of us. You can read his explanation at: http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "DFD" wrote in message ... I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora |
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Hi RC:
Thank you for your response. I am answering each of your questions in the text of your reply. "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. Are you logged in as an Administrator of this computer? YES If so, then go to System Properties | Advanced | Performance/Settings | Advanced. What do you see at the bottom of this screen, just above the Change button? The line should say "Total paging file size for all drives", and the number should be 1.5 times your RAM, by default. IT SAYS 0 MB Another way to verify that you do, in fact, have a page file is to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager, then click the Performance tab. Look at Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB Pagefile.sys is always created in the Root of a volume (the Boot Volume by default), with the Hidden and System attributes, so it doesn't appear in normal directory listings. The file can be created in a different volume, but it will always be in the Root of that volume. So, the first place to look in the typical WinXP is C:\pagefile.sys, and be sure you can see the System and Hidden files. : I DID, STILL I DO NOT SEE IT If you have other volumes, look in the Root of each (D:\, E:\, etc.) I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE You can open a "DOS" window and use the Dir command with the /a switch to show All files, no matter their attributes: dir c:\ /a : I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE If you click on that Change button I mentioned above, you should see a page that shows which volume WinXP is using, and you can change your settings there. First, choose each volume and click No paging file and then Set. Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. MVP Alex Nichol knows more about Virtual Memory than most of us. You can read his explanation at: http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php : I READ HIS ARTICLE, BUT HAVING NOT FOUND THE FILE TO DELETE IT I WAS UNABLE TO PROCEED. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. Thank you (and Ken Blake for his attention) Dora RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "DFD" wrote in message ... I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora |
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DFD wrote:
I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. See Control Panel - System - Advanced - Performance Settings - Advanced - Virtual Memory and see how much is being shown there. If none, see the problems section at my page www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm The pagefile - by default c:\pagefile.sys - is a protected file, and in Folder Options - View you need to have Show Hidden files selected, and Hide Protected mode files *not* checked -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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I did the changes to view both hidden files and unchecked 'hide protected mode files'. My virtual memory is 0. I read your document, but do not see the solution there. The only .sys files I see in the root directory are congig.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys. Dora "Alex Nichol" wrote: DFD wrote: I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. See Control Panel - System - Advanced - Performance Settings - Advanced - Virtual Memory and see how much is being shown there. If none, see the problems section at my page www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm The pagefile - by default c:\pagefile.sys - is a protected file, and in Folder Options - View you need to have Show Hidden files selected, and Hide Protected mode files *not* checked -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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DFD Wrote: I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora permissions might have been changed on the drive with the pagefile...everyone needs access; On the Tools menu, click Folder Options. 2. Click the View tab. 3. Click to clear the Hide protected operating system files check box. Note that you should check box again when you finish this procedure to help protect the system files. 4. Click Yes when you are prompted to verify the change, and then click OK. 3. On the File menu, click Properties. Click the Security tab to view the current permissions. 4. Click Add, click System, and then click Add. 5. Click Administrators, click Add, and then click OK. Note that you must click Administrators, not Administrator. 6. Click System, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 7. Click Administrators, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 8. Click OK. if you're running home and you havn't added the sucurity tab you'll have to do this in safe mode -- perris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ perris's Profile: http://forum.osnn.net/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=50890 |
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Thank you, Perris. I followod all of your recommendations. Still no
pagefile.sys file. Dora "perris" wrote: DFD Wrote: I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora permissions might have been changed on the drive with the pagefile...everyone needs access; On the Tools menu, click Folder Options. 2. Click the View tab. 3. Click to clear the Hide protected operating system files check box. Note that you should check box again when you finish this procedure to help protect the system files. 4. Click Yes when you are prompted to verify the change, and then click OK. 3. On the File menu, click Properties. Click the Security tab to view the current permissions. 4. Click Add, click System, and then click Add. 5. Click Administrators, click Add, and then click OK. Note that you must click Administrators, not Administrator. 6. Click System, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 7. Click Administrators, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 8. Click OK. if you're running home and you havn't added the sucurity tab you'll have to do this in safe mode -- perris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ perris's Profile: http://forum.osnn.net/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=50890 |
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R.C. White:
I don't now how those Win9X/Me files got into Win XP, but they are there. The other files you mention are in c:\ and the text of boot.ini is: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOW S [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. In your reply to Alex Nichol, you said: The only .sys files I see in the root directory are congig.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys. Whoa!! Something does not compute! Config.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys are Win9x/ME files. They are NOT WinXP files. How did they get into your C:\? There's something about your computer that you haven't told us, Dora! And it might be what is causing your problems. Do you have the system files C:\NTLDR? C:\NTDETECT.COM? C:\Boot.ini? If so, please post the text of C:\Boot.ini. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. You left out some things that I asked for (how many HDs and how they are partitioned) and some things that I didn't realize I needed to ask: What was pre-installed on your computer? Did it come with Win9x/ME pre-installed? How did WinXP get onto this computer? WinXP will run on a computer with only 256 MB RAM, but sluggishly; 512 is much better. And your computer apparently shares some of its memory with the graphics system. Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB My formula failed to consider an important little "-"; I expected the Limit to be MORE than Total RAM. In your computer, the 261,424 KB / 1024 = ~256 MB of RAM. But the Limit is only 238,552 KB / 1024 = ~233 MB, or about 22 MB LESS than total RAM. Apparently, your computer is sharing the 256 MB RAM with your video system, which is using this 22 MB of RAM at the moment. I've never dealt with a "shared RAM" system, so I'm not sure how it affects Virtual Memory. But my assumption that "the difference is your page file" was obviously wrong; you can't have a MINUS page file. (261,424 - 238,552 = 22,872 KB / 1024 = 22.336 MB; how did you arrive at 42.872 MB?) Your computer apparently was built to support Win9x/ME and may be inadequate for WinXP. You haven't told us about your HD space (how much total and how much in C; perhaps you have no room for WinXP to create a page file of ANY size there. :( Go back to that "Change" page, where you set the page file volume and size. As we said: Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. On that page, click on C:, then look just below the drive table and see what it shows as "Space available". What is that number? Click on each volume you have; what is the biggest Space available number you see on ANY volume? Perhaps you simply don't have enough space for a page file anywhere in your computer. WinXP can't create a page file if no unused space exists. :( RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "DFD" wrote in message ... Hi RC: Thank you for your response. I am answering each of your questions in the text of your reply. "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. Are you logged in as an Administrator of this computer? YES If so, then go to System Properties | Advanced | Performance/Settings | Advanced. What do you see at the bottom of this screen, just above the Change button? The line should say "Total paging file size for all drives", and the number should be 1.5 times your RAM, by default. IT SAYS 0 MB Another way to verify that you do, in fact, have a page file is to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager, then click the Performance tab. Look at Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB Pagefile.sys is always created in the Root of a volume (the Boot Volume by default), with the Hidden and System attributes, so it doesn't appear in normal directory listings. The file can be created in a different volume, but it will always be in the Root of that volume. So, the first place to look in the typical WinXP is C:\pagefile.sys, and be sure you can see the System and Hidden files. : I DID, STILL I DO NOT SEE IT If you have other volumes, look in the Root of each (D:\, E:\, etc.) I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE You can open a "DOS" window and use the Dir command with the /a switch to show All files, no matter their attributes: dir c:\ /a : I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE If you click on that Change button I mentioned above, you should see a page that shows which volume WinXP is using, and you can change your settings there. First, choose each volume and click No paging file and then Set. Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. MVP Alex Nichol knows more about Virtual Memory than most of us. You can read his explanation at: http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php : I READ HIS ARTICLE, BUT HAVING NOT FOUND THE FILE TO DELETE IT I WAS UNABLE TO PROCEED. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. Thank you (and Ken Blake for his attention) Dora RC "DFD" wrote in message ... I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora |
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Hi, Dora.
I don't now how those Win9X/Me files got into Win XP, but they are there. You might as well delete them unless you have MS-DOS or Win9x/ME installed; they are just taking up disk space. Your boot.ini looks fine, assuming WinXP is on the second volume of your first HD, probably D:. But you didn't answer my other questions: How many HDs? How are they partitioned? How much unused space on each volume? RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "DFD" wrote in message ... R.C. White: I don't now how those Win9X/Me files got into Win XP, but they are there. The other files you mention are in c:\ and the text of boot.ini is: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOW S [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. In your reply to Alex Nichol, you said: The only .sys files I see in the root directory are congig.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys. Whoa!! Something does not compute! Config.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys are Win9x/ME files. They are NOT WinXP files. How did they get into your C:\? There's something about your computer that you haven't told us, Dora! And it might be what is causing your problems. Do you have the system files C:\NTLDR? C:\NTDETECT.COM? C:\Boot.ini? If so, please post the text of C:\Boot.ini. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. You left out some things that I asked for (how many HDs and how they are partitioned) and some things that I didn't realize I needed to ask: What was pre-installed on your computer? Did it come with Win9x/ME pre-installed? How did WinXP get onto this computer? WinXP will run on a computer with only 256 MB RAM, but sluggishly; 512 is much better. And your computer apparently shares some of its memory with the graphics system. Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB My formula failed to consider an important little "-"; I expected the Limit to be MORE than Total RAM. In your computer, the 261,424 KB / 1024 = ~256 MB of RAM. But the Limit is only 238,552 KB / 1024 = ~233 MB, or about 22 MB LESS than total RAM. Apparently, your computer is sharing the 256 MB RAM with your video system, which is using this 22 MB of RAM at the moment. I've never dealt with a "shared RAM" system, so I'm not sure how it affects Virtual Memory. But my assumption that "the difference is your page file" was obviously wrong; you can't have a MINUS page file. (261,424 - 238,552 = 22,872 KB / 1024 = 22.336 MB; how did you arrive at 42.872 MB?) Your computer apparently was built to support Win9x/ME and may be inadequate for WinXP. You haven't told us about your HD space (how much total and how much in C; perhaps you have no room for WinXP to create a page file of ANY size there. :( Go back to that "Change" page, where you set the page file volume and size. As we said: Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. On that page, click on C:, then look just below the drive table and see what it shows as "Space available". What is that number? Click on each volume you have; what is the biggest Space available number you see on ANY volume? Perhaps you simply don't have enough space for a page file anywhere in your computer. WinXP can't create a page file if no unused space exists. :( RC "DFD" wrote in message ... Hi RC: Thank you for your response. I am answering each of your questions in the text of your reply. "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. Are you logged in as an Administrator of this computer? YES If so, then go to System Properties | Advanced | Performance/Settings | Advanced. What do you see at the bottom of this screen, just above the Change button? The line should say "Total paging file size for all drives", and the number should be 1.5 times your RAM, by default. IT SAYS 0 MB Another way to verify that you do, in fact, have a page file is to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager, then click the Performance tab. Look at Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB Pagefile.sys is always created in the Root of a volume (the Boot Volume by default), with the Hidden and System attributes, so it doesn't appear in normal directory listings. The file can be created in a different volume, but it will always be in the Root of that volume. So, the first place to look in the typical WinXP is C:\pagefile.sys, and be sure you can see the System and Hidden files. : I DID, STILL I DO NOT SEE IT If you have other volumes, look in the Root of each (D:\, E:\, etc.) I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE You can open a "DOS" window and use the Dir command with the /a switch to show All files, no matter their attributes: dir c:\ /a : I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE If you click on that Change button I mentioned above, you should see a page that shows which volume WinXP is using, and you can change your settings there. First, choose each volume and click No paging file and then Set. Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. MVP Alex Nichol knows more about Virtual Memory than most of us. You can read his explanation at: http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php : I READ HIS ARTICLE, BUT HAVING NOT FOUND THE FILE TO DELETE IT I WAS UNABLE TO PROCEED. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. Thank you (and Ken Blake for his attention) Dora RC "DFD" wrote in message ... I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora |
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R.C. White:
I do not know how those files got there. I have only one hard drive. No partitions. The only operating system I have is Windows XP Professional. When I look into disk management I see two volumes, one has no name, it reads partition for layout, basic for type, Healthy(EISA Congifuration) for Status, 31 MB for capacity, 30 MB for Free Space, 96% for %free, and No for Fault Tolerance. Second volume is C: with partition for layout, basic for type, Healthy(System) for Status, 37.21 GB for capacity, 21.60 GB for Free Space, 58% for %free, and No for Fault Tolerance. Dora "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. I don't now how those Win9X/Me files got into Win XP, but they are there. You might as well delete them unless you have MS-DOS or Win9x/ME installed; they are just taking up disk space. Your boot.ini looks fine, assuming WinXP is on the second volume of your first HD, probably D:. But you didn't answer my other questions: How many HDs? How are they partitioned? How much unused space on each volume? RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "DFD" wrote in message ... R.C. White: I don't now how those Win9X/Me files got into Win XP, but they are there. The other files you mention are in c:\ and the text of boot.ini is: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOW S [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. In your reply to Alex Nichol, you said: The only .sys files I see in the root directory are congig.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys. Whoa!! Something does not compute! Config.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys are Win9x/ME files. They are NOT WinXP files. How did they get into your C:\? There's something about your computer that you haven't told us, Dora! And it might be what is causing your problems. Do you have the system files C:\NTLDR? C:\NTDETECT.COM? C:\Boot.ini? If so, please post the text of C:\Boot.ini. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. You left out some things that I asked for (how many HDs and how they are partitioned) and some things that I didn't realize I needed to ask: What was pre-installed on your computer? Did it come with Win9x/ME pre-installed? How did WinXP get onto this computer? WinXP will run on a computer with only 256 MB RAM, but sluggishly; 512 is much better. And your computer apparently shares some of its memory with the graphics system. Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB My formula failed to consider an important little "-"; I expected the Limit to be MORE than Total RAM. In your computer, the 261,424 KB / 1024 = ~256 MB of RAM. But the Limit is only 238,552 KB / 1024 = ~233 MB, or about 22 MB LESS than total RAM. Apparently, your computer is sharing the 256 MB RAM with your video system, which is using this 22 MB of RAM at the moment. I've never dealt with a "shared RAM" system, so I'm not sure how it affects Virtual Memory. But my assumption that "the difference is your page file" was obviously wrong; you can't have a MINUS page file. (261,424 - 238,552 = 22,872 KB / 1024 = 22.336 MB; how did you arrive at 42.872 MB?) Your computer apparently was built to support Win9x/ME and may be inadequate for WinXP. You haven't told us about your HD space (how much total and how much in C; perhaps you have no room for WinXP to create a page file of ANY size there. :( Go back to that "Change" page, where you set the page file volume and size. As we said: Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. On that page, click on C:, then look just below the drive table and see what it shows as "Space available". What is that number? Click on each volume you have; what is the biggest Space available number you see on ANY volume? Perhaps you simply don't have enough space for a page file anywhere in your computer. WinXP can't create a page file if no unused space exists. :( RC "DFD" wrote in message ... Hi RC: Thank you for your response. I am answering each of your questions in the text of your reply. "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. Are you logged in as an Administrator of this computer? YES If so, then go to System Properties | Advanced | Performance/Settings | Advanced. What do you see at the bottom of this screen, just above the Change button? The line should say "Total paging file size for all drives", and the number should be 1.5 times your RAM, by default. IT SAYS 0 MB Another way to verify that you do, in fact, have a page file is to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager, then click the Performance tab. Look at Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB Pagefile.sys is always created in the Root of a volume (the Boot Volume by default), with the Hidden and System attributes, so it doesn't appear in normal directory listings. The file can be created in a different volume, but it will always be in the Root of that volume. So, the first place to look in the typical WinXP is C:\pagefile.sys, and be sure you can see the System and Hidden files. : I DID, STILL I DO NOT SEE IT If you have other volumes, look in the Root of each (D:\, E:\, etc.) I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE You can open a "DOS" window and use the Dir command with the /a switch to show All files, no matter their attributes: dir c:\ /a : I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE If you click on that Change button I mentioned above, you should see a page that shows which volume WinXP is using, and you can change your settings there. First, choose each volume and click No paging file and then Set. Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. MVP Alex Nichol knows more about Virtual Memory than most of us. You can read his explanation at: http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php : I READ HIS ARTICLE, BUT HAVING NOT FOUND THE FILE TO DELETE IT I WAS UNABLE TO PROCEED. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. Thank you (and Ken Blake for his attention) Dora RC "DFD" wrote in message ... I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora |
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DFD Wrote: Thank you, Perris. I followod all of your recommendations. Still no pagefile.sys file. Dora "perris" wrote: DFD Wrote: I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora permissions might have been changed on the drive with the pagefile...everyone needs access; On the Tools menu, click Folder Options. 2. Click the View tab. 3. Click to clear the Hide protected operating system files check box. Note that you should check box again when you finish this procedure to help protect the system files. 4. Click Yes when you are prompted to verify the change, and then click OK. 3. On the File menu, click Properties. Click the Security tab to view the current permissions. 4. Click Add, click System, and then click Add. 5. Click Administrators, click Add, and then click OK. Note that you must click Administrators, not Administrator. 6. Click System, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 7. Click Administrators, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 8. Click OK. if you're running home and you havn't added the sucurity tab you'll have to do this in safe mode -- perris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ perris's Profile: http://forum.osnn.net/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=50890 couple of other things to try; The registry value where the pagefile settings get stored might have become corrupt It's in; HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management the value is called "PagingFiles". It should be a REG_MULTI_SZ and for the setting you're trying there, should look like this: D:\pagefile.sys 800 800, those two numbers representing your settings Try deleting it, then go into the System applet again and set it to what you want it to be from there. if that doesn't help, try reading this solution; http://tinyurl.com/52abt -- perris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ perris's Profile: http://forum.osnn.net/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=50890 |
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Hi, Dora.
I'm no expert on how Dell configures the HDs in the computers they sell, never having owned one. From what you report, I'm guessing that your first partition in the hidden partition that others have reported. Note that it is very small: 31 MB - NOT GB! You also didn't mention any "drive" letter assigned to it. My understanding is that WinXP does not use this partition at all; it's there only in case you need it to restore your computer to its factory-fresh state after a disaster (wiping out all your installed applications and data in the process). For all practical purposes, you have only a single HD with a single partition, assigned the "drive" letter C:. It's ~32 GB with over 21 GB free - plenty of room for a page file. The Status column for your Drive C: might hold just one of several labels: System, Boot, Page File, Active, and others. Unfortunately, it shows only the first label from that list that fits. Chances are, all 4 of those labels fit your Drive C:, but only the first, System, shows up, so we can't see the paging file location from this display for your computer. We'll have to use another way. That other way is the VM Change button we've already discussed. I don't understand why you can't use that screen. One further way that might work is described in the Help file. In Disk Management, click Help | Help Topics. In the search box, type "change page file" (without the quotes, since we don't want to limit the search to this exact phrase), then click List Topics. In the list that appears, double-click the only entry in the Disk Management location, Volume status descriptions. (Yes, there are short-cuts to where we're going, but I want you to see the sights along the way. There's a LOT of information in this Help file. Some time spent - INVESTED, actually - reading this file will pay dividends not just for the current problem, but for as long as you keep using PCs.) Click the little + sign in front of Healthy and you'll see the list of Statuses that I mentioned earlier. On the Page File line, click the underscored link, System Properties overview. Then, from the list at the BOTTOM of this page, click on the line, To change the size of the virtual memory paging file. Here's just about the same advice I gave you a couple of posts ago, but with more detail and a slightly different (and longer) path to that Change screen. Now that we know you have only Drive C:, we know that there's no other place to put the paging file. Since you have over 20 GB free on that Drive, I don't understand why you can't create a paging file there. :( Maybe it's time for you to ask Dell. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "DFD" wrote in message ... R.C. White: I do not know how those files got there. I have only one hard drive. No partitions. The only operating system I have is Windows XP Professional. When I look into disk management I see two volumes, one has no name, it reads partition for layout, basic for type, Healthy(EISA Congifuration) for Status, 31 MB for capacity, 30 MB for Free Space, 96% for %free, and No for Fault Tolerance. Second volume is C: with partition for layout, basic for type, Healthy(System) for Status, 37.21 GB for capacity, 21.60 GB for Free Space, 58% for %free, and No for Fault Tolerance. Dora "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. I don't now how those Win9X/Me files got into Win XP, but they are there. You might as well delete them unless you have MS-DOS or Win9x/ME installed; they are just taking up disk space. Your boot.ini looks fine, assuming WinXP is on the second volume of your first HD, probably D:. But you didn't answer my other questions: How many HDs? How are they partitioned? How much unused space on each volume? RC "DFD" wrote in message ... R.C. White: I don't now how those Win9X/Me files got into Win XP, but they are there. The other files you mention are in c:\ and the text of boot.ini is: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOW S [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. In your reply to Alex Nichol, you said: The only .sys files I see in the root directory are congig.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys. Whoa!! Something does not compute! Config.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys are Win9x/ME files. They are NOT WinXP files. How did they get into your C:\? There's something about your computer that you haven't told us, Dora! And it might be what is causing your problems. Do you have the system files C:\NTLDR? C:\NTDETECT.COM? C:\Boot.ini? If so, please post the text of C:\Boot.ini. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. You left out some things that I asked for (how many HDs and how they are partitioned) and some things that I didn't realize I needed to ask: What was pre-installed on your computer? Did it come with Win9x/ME pre-installed? How did WinXP get onto this computer? WinXP will run on a computer with only 256 MB RAM, but sluggishly; 512 is much better. And your computer apparently shares some of its memory with the graphics system. Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB My formula failed to consider an important little "-"; I expected the Limit to be MORE than Total RAM. In your computer, the 261,424 KB / 1024 = ~256 MB of RAM. But the Limit is only 238,552 KB / 1024 = ~233 MB, or about 22 MB LESS than total RAM. Apparently, your computer is sharing the 256 MB RAM with your video system, which is using this 22 MB of RAM at the moment. I've never dealt with a "shared RAM" system, so I'm not sure how it affects Virtual Memory. But my assumption that "the difference is your page file" was obviously wrong; you can't have a MINUS page file. (261,424 - 238,552 = 22,872 KB / 1024 = 22.336 MB; how did you arrive at 42.872 MB?) Your computer apparently was built to support Win9x/ME and may be inadequate for WinXP. You haven't told us about your HD space (how much total and how much in C; perhaps you have no room for WinXP to create a page file of ANY size there. :( Go back to that "Change" page, where you set the page file volume and size. As we said: Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. On that page, click on C:, then look just below the drive table and see what it shows as "Space available". What is that number? Click on each volume you have; what is the biggest Space available number you see on ANY volume? Perhaps you simply don't have enough space for a page file anywhere in your computer. WinXP can't create a page file if no unused space exists. :( RC "DFD" wrote in message ... Hi RC: Thank you for your response. I am answering each of your questions in the text of your reply. "R. C. White" wrote: Hi, Dora. Are you logged in as an Administrator of this computer? YES If so, then go to System Properties | Advanced | Performance/Settings | Advanced. What do you see at the bottom of this screen, just above the Change button? The line should say "Total paging file size for all drives", and the number should be 1.5 times your RAM, by default. IT SAYS 0 MB Another way to verify that you do, in fact, have a page file is to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager, then click the Performance tab. Look at Total under Physical Memory; this should show the amount of RAM in your computer. : 261424 KB Then look at Limit under Commit Charge; this shows the total of RAM and Virtual Memory. : 238552 KB The difference is your page file.: 42.872 MB Pagefile.sys is always created in the Root of a volume (the Boot Volume by default), with the Hidden and System attributes, so it doesn't appear in normal directory listings. The file can be created in a different volume, but it will always be in the Root of that volume. So, the first place to look in the typical WinXP is C:\pagefile.sys, and be sure you can see the System and Hidden files. : I DID, STILL I DO NOT SEE IT If you have other volumes, look in the Root of each (D:\, E:\, etc.) I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE You can open a "DOS" window and use the Dir command with the /a switch to show All files, no matter their attributes: dir c:\ /a : I DID, NO PAGEFILE.SYS FILE If you click on that Change button I mentioned above, you should see a page that shows which volume WinXP is using, and you can change your settings there. First, choose each volume and click No paging file and then Set. Then, select the volume where you want your page file to be, click System managed size, and Set. OK your way out and reboot, if necessary, for the change to take effect. I DID ALL THESE, NO SUCCESS, NO FILE. MVP Alex Nichol knows more about Virtual Memory than most of us. You can read his explanation at: http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php : I READ HIS ARTICLE, BUT HAVING NOT FOUND THE FILE TO DELETE IT I WAS UNABLE TO PROCEED. If this doesn't solve your problem, please post back. Tell us the make and model of your computer, how much RAM, how many HDs and how they are partitioned. MY COMPUTER IS A DELL DIMENSIONS 4400, 256 MB DDR SDRAM, PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR AT 1.6 GHz. Thank you (and Ken Blake for his attention) Dora RC "DFD" wrote in message ... I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora |
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Hi, Perris - and Dora.
the value is called "PagingFiles". It should be a REG_MULTI_SZ and for the setting you're trying there, should look like this: D:\pagefile.sys 800 800, those two numbers representing your settings Since my page file is set to System Managed Size on Drive X: on my third HD, that entry for me is: X:\pagefile.sys 0 0 http://tinyurl.com/52abt That reference is old (2000 - pre WinXP) and talks about WinNT and Win2K, but perhaps holds the clue to Dora's problem. Perhaps some problem in the past has caused WinXP to create a temporary page file, which is now preventing the creation of a normal PF. Dora, do you have a file named C:\Windows\system32\temppf.sys? If so, delete it, or at least rename it or move it temporarily to another folder where WinXP won't find it. You may need to reboot into Safe Mode to do this, because the file probably will be protected in some way. After deleting it, reboot and see if you have C:\pagefile.sys. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "perris" wrote in message news DFD Wrote: Thank you, Perris. I followod all of your recommendations. Still no pagefile.sys file. Dora "perris" wrote: DFD Wrote: I have XP Pro. Like many in this group I do not get a page file, and eventually run out of VM. This problem precedes my downloading of SP2 and fixing of other problems which includes the removal of the GAOBOT worm with the help of the Norton antivirus. The problem started with an update download and the subsequent help of a MS tech representative, long ago. I have tried all of the solutions offered in this group, to no avail. I do not find a pagefile.sys file no matter how I look for it. The only files that I have are pagefile.vb in C:\I386 and pagefile.vbs in several c-disk folders. The only place I see a reference to pagefile.sys, with whatever values I define, is in the register keys, local management, as a type REG_MULTI_SZ with data, for instance C:\pagefile.sys 500 4000. There are several users set in my computer, but mostly I am the only one using it. When I start it and the screen shows the users, if I click on a user right away, there is no further response until I click CTL-ALT del. If I wait longer, until I see that my hard disk stopped working, when I click on a user, it logs in fast but the box comes up saying that there is no page file, etc. I'll appreciate any advice different from what has already been written, as well as to have it phrased in sort of step-by-step instructions. I am no expert. Thanks a lot. -- Dora permissions might have been changed on the drive with the pagefile...everyone needs access; On the Tools menu, click Folder Options. 2. Click the View tab. 3. Click to clear the Hide protected operating system files check box. Note that you should check box again when you finish this procedure to help protect the system files. 4. Click Yes when you are prompted to verify the change, and then click OK. 3. On the File menu, click Properties. Click the Security tab to view the current permissions. 4. Click Add, click System, and then click Add. 5. Click Administrators, click Add, and then click OK. Note that you must click Administrators, not Administrator. 6. Click System, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 7. Click Administrators, and then click to select the Full Control check box. This automatically selects the other check boxes. 8. Click OK. if you're running home and you havn't added the sucurity tab you'll have to do this in safe mode -- perris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ perris's Profile: http://forum.osnn.net/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=50890 couple of other things to try; The registry value where the pagefile settings get stored might have become corrupt It's in; HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management the value is called "PagingFiles". It should be a REG_MULTI_SZ and for the setting you're trying there, should look like this: D:\pagefile.sys 800 800, those two numbers representing your settings Try deleting it, then go into the System applet again and set it to what you want it to be from there. if that doesn't help, try reading this solution; http://tinyurl.com/52abt -- perris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ perris's Profile: http://forum.osnn.net/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=50890 |
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