No miniviews of pictures in folder thumbnails

1) Normally when I display folder thumbnails they will show me up to 4
miniviews of containing pictures
2) Normally when I place a 'folder.jpg' into the folder it will show me this
picture in large on the folder thumbnail
3) Normally I should be able to customize the folder thumbnail in the
preferences

All of the above does not work on my computer. The folder thumbnail would be
a neutral folder icon.

Furthermore there should be a context menu to each folder allowing me to
"refresh thumbnails". On my computer this particular menu item is missing
(others are there).

I tried to:
- Increase Shell\BagMRU Size and ShellNoRoam\BagMRU Size to 8000
- Recreated registry entries in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT to display thumbnails

When pressing F5 the Thumbs.db will be created.

But all this did not bring me the miniviews into the folder thumbnails.

What can be wrong?

If a generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view,
type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

from Ramesh Srinivasan @
Generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/imagethumb.htm

If a .jpg file is in a folder that is NOT a Pictures or Photo Album right
clicking the file does not bring up Refresh Thumbnail in the context menu.
To get Refresh Thumbnail, the folder must be a Pictures or Photo Album
folder.

Tip from TweakUI:
[[If you create a file called Folder.jpg, that image will be used as the
thumbnail for the folder. What's more, that image will also be used as the
album art in Windows Media Player for all media files in that folder.]]

Manually create a folder picture
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003/en-us#4

You can only see Folder Pictures if you have Thumbnail view.

To see Thumbnails in the left hand pane, you need to have Common Tasks
activated.

You also need to have the folder template set for Pictures or Photo Album.

You may have to click the Folders icon on the Toolbar to switch from Folders
view to show Common Tasks in the left hand pane.

[[You can display hyperlinks to common tasks in the left pane of your folder
windows. The links provide quick access to file and folder management
activities and other places on your computer, such as My Computer, Shared
Documents, and My Network Places. Windows displays these links by default,
so they may already be displayed in your folders. If they are not, you can
use Folder Options to enable this feature.]]

Start | Run | Type: control folders | Click OK |
General tab | Select: Show common tasks in folders |
Click Apply | Click OK

Show common tasks in folders
[[Specifies that hyperlinks to common folder tasks and other places on your
computer are displayed in folders. These links appear in the left pane of
the folder window.]]

View | Customize This Folder | Select Pictures or Photo Album |
Click Apply | Click OK

Or..

Right click the folder | Properties | Customize tab |
Set to Pictures or Photo Album under what kind of folder do you want? |
Click Apply | Click OK

Use this folder type as a template:
[[Allows you to select a folder template. Folder templates apply specific
features to your folder, such as specialized task links and viewing options
for working with pictures and music.]]

Also apply this template to all subfolders
[[Specifies that the template you select for your folder is applied to all
of its subfolders as well.]]

You can view your pictures as thumbnails in any My Pictures subfolder or any
folder customized as a pictures folder.

If your folders are showing the wrong common tasks for Pictures or Photo
Album folders, see this...

Common Tasks Don’t Match Folder Type
by Keith Miller
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_common_tasks.htm

Keith Miller has a script that can fix the problem. Download
TaskPaneFix.zip attachment from this newsgroup post:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dd4582cc4b2e99

Clear at the bottom.

TaskPaneFix.zip
2K Download

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
1) Normally when I display folder thumbnails they will show me up to 4
miniviews of containing pictures
2) Normally when I place a 'folder.jpg' into the folder it will show me
this picture in large on the folder thumbnail
3) Normally I should be able to customize the folder thumbnail in the
preferences

All of the above does not work on my computer. The folder thumbnail would
be a neutral folder icon.

Furthermore there should be a context menu to each folder allowing me to
"refresh thumbnails". On my computer this particular menu item is missing
(others are there).

I tried to:
- Increase Shell\BagMRU Size and ShellNoRoam\BagMRU Size to 8000
- Recreated registry entries in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT to display thumbnails

When pressing F5 the Thumbs.db will be created.

But all this did not bring me the miniviews into the folder thumbnails.

What can be wrong?

Thanks a lot for the advice!
Unfortunately it did not solve my problem.

I checked your recommendations and performed also the suggested steps.

The common tasks in relation to folders and pictures seem to be OK.
Also thumbnails of pictures are displayed correctly.
The folders are customized for pictures.

My problem is the icon of the folder itself.
Normally when I have folders (containing pictures) in a folder in thumbnail
view they would display either 4 miniviews on their icons or the "Folder.jpg"
picture.

This does not work on my computer.

Furthermore when I choose to customize the folder picture the preview in the
"Properties Customize" tab remains a blank yellow icon after I have applied
the selected picture.

When I right-click a folder containing pictures (which should have the 4
miniviews of the single Folder.jpg picture) there is no menu to refresh the
thumbnail (of the folder).

I have another computer on which all this works fine.

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem. Unfortunately I don't have an ftp site where I could
put them.

------------------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

If a generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view,
type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

from Ramesh Srinivasan @
Generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/imagethumb.htm

If a .jpg file is in a folder that is NOT a Pictures or Photo Album right
clicking the file does not bring up Refresh Thumbnail in the context menu.
To get Refresh Thumbnail, the folder must be a Pictures or Photo Album
folder.

Tip from TweakUI:
[[If you create a file called Folder.jpg, that image will be used as the
thumbnail for the folder. What's more, that image will also be used as the
album art in Windows Media Player for all media files in that folder.]]

Manually create a folder picture
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003/en-us#4

You can only see Folder Pictures if you have Thumbnail view.

To see Thumbnails in the left hand pane, you need to have Common Tasks
activated.

You also need to have the folder template set for Pictures or Photo Album.

You may have to click the Folders icon on the Toolbar to switch from Folders
view to show Common Tasks in the left hand pane.

[[You can display hyperlinks to common tasks in the left pane of your folder
windows. The links provide quick access to file and folder management
activities and other places on your computer, such as My Computer, Shared
Documents, and My Network Places. Windows displays these links by default,
so they may already be displayed in your folders. If they are not, you can
use Folder Options to enable this feature.]]

Start | Run | Type: control folders | Click OK |
General tab | Select: Show common tasks in folders |
Click Apply | Click OK

Show common tasks in folders
[[Specifies that hyperlinks to common folder tasks and other places on your
computer are displayed in folders. These links appear in the left pane of
the folder window.]]

View | Customize This Folder | Select Pictures or Photo Album |
Click Apply | Click OK

Or..

Right click the folder | Properties | Customize tab |
Set to Pictures or Photo Album under what kind of folder do you want? |
Click Apply | Click OK

Use this folder type as a template:
[[Allows you to select a folder template. Folder templates apply specific
features to your folder, such as specialized task links and viewing options
for working with pictures and music.]]

Also apply this template to all subfolders
[[Specifies that the template you select for your folder is applied to all
of its subfolders as well.]]

You can view your pictures as thumbnails in any My Pictures subfolder or any
folder customized as a pictures folder.

If your folders are showing the wrong common tasks for Pictures or Photo
Album folders, see this...

Common Tasks Don’t Match Folder Type
by Keith Miller
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_common_tasks.htm

Keith Miller has a script that can fix the problem. Download
TaskPaneFix.zip attachment from this newsgroup post:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dd4582cc4b2e99

Clear at the bottom.

TaskPaneFix.zip
2K Download

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
1) Normally when I display folder thumbnails they will show me up to 4
miniviews of containing pictures
2) Normally when I place a 'folder.jpg' into the folder it will show me
this picture in large on the folder thumbnail
3) Normally I should be able to customize the folder thumbnail in the
preferences

All of the above does not work on my computer. The folder thumbnail would
be a neutral folder icon.

Furthermore there should be a context menu to each folder allowing me to
"refresh thumbnails". On my computer this particular menu item is missing
(others are there).

I tried to:
- Increase Shell\BagMRU Size and ShellNoRoam\BagMRU Size to 8000
- Recreated registry entries in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT to display thumbnails

When pressing F5 the Thumbs.db will be created.

But all this did not bring me the miniviews into the folder thumbnails.

What can be wrong?

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem.

I understand your problem from reading your posts, no screenshots are
necessary. Unfortunately I do not have a clue why it's happening.
Especially the blank yellow icon after you have applied the selected picture
on folder Properties.

I do not have a clue. ;-(

From your first post I think you've seen this?
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or incorrect
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813711

From Ramesh. The thumbnail image for a folder is stored in a REG_SZ value
named Logo here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\number\Shell

See this and try those things.
Unable to remove the Thumbnail image for system folders in XP
http://www.winxptutor.com/folderthumbs.htm

I did not have any picture folders set up where I chose a picture for the
folder on folder Properties, Customize tab, Choose Picture. So I did that
for one folder. I then did a registry search for Logo in HKEY_CURRENT_USER
and found this.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2135\Shell
Value Name: Logo
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: C:\Documents and Settings\Wesley Vogel\
Desktop\Assorted Logos\Colorado Premium Foods.jpg

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Thanks a lot for the advice!
Unfortunately it did not solve my problem.

I checked your recommendations and performed also the suggested steps.

The common tasks in relation to folders and pictures seem to be OK.
Also thumbnails of pictures are displayed correctly.
The folders are customized for pictures.

My problem is the icon of the folder itself.
Normally when I have folders (containing pictures) in a folder in
thumbnail view they would display either 4 miniviews on their icons or
the "Folder.jpg" picture.

This does not work on my computer.

Furthermore when I choose to customize the folder picture the preview in
the "Properties Customize" tab remains a blank yellow icon after I have
applied the selected picture.

When I right-click a folder containing pictures (which should have the 4
miniviews of the single Folder.jpg picture) there is no menu to refresh
the thumbnail (of the folder).

I have another computer on which all this works fine.

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem. Unfortunately I don't have an ftp site where I
could put them.

------------------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

If a generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view,
type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

from Ramesh Srinivasan @
Generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/imagethumb.htm

If a .jpg file is in a folder that is NOT a Pictures or Photo Album right
clicking the file does not bring up Refresh Thumbnail in the context
menu. To get Refresh Thumbnail, the folder must be a Pictures or Photo
Album folder.

Tip from TweakUI:
[[If you create a file called Folder.jpg, that image will be used as the
thumbnail for the folder. What's more, that image will also be used as
the album art in Windows Media Player for all media files in that
folder.]]

Manually create a folder picture
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003/en-us#4

You can only see Folder Pictures if you have Thumbnail view.

To see Thumbnails in the left hand pane, you need to have Common Tasks
activated.

You also need to have the folder template set for Pictures or Photo
Album.

You may have to click the Folders icon on the Toolbar to switch from
Folders view to show Common Tasks in the left hand pane.

[[You can display hyperlinks to common tasks in the left pane of your
folder windows. The links provide quick access to file and folder
management activities and other places on your computer, such as My
Computer, Shared Documents, and My Network Places. Windows displays
these links by default, so they may already be displayed in your
folders. If they are not, you can use Folder Options to enable this
feature.]]

Start | Run | Type: control folders | Click OK |
General tab | Select: Show common tasks in folders |
Click Apply | Click OK

Show common tasks in folders
[[Specifies that hyperlinks to common folder tasks and other places on
your computer are displayed in folders. These links appear in the left
pane of the folder window.]]

View | Customize This Folder | Select Pictures or Photo Album |
Click Apply | Click OK

Or..

Right click the folder | Properties | Customize tab |
Set to Pictures or Photo Album under what kind of folder do you want? |
Click Apply | Click OK

Use this folder type as a template:
[[Allows you to select a folder template. Folder templates apply specific
features to your folder, such as specialized task links and viewing
options for working with pictures and music.]]

Also apply this template to all subfolders
[[Specifies that the template you select for your folder is applied to
all of its subfolders as well.]]

You can view your pictures as thumbnails in any My Pictures subfolder or
any folder customized as a pictures folder.

If your folders are showing the wrong common tasks for Pictures or Photo
Album folders, see this...

Common Tasks Don’t Match Folder Type
by Keith Miller
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_common_tasks.htm

Keith Miller has a script that can fix the problem. Download
TaskPaneFix.zip attachment from this newsgroup post:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dd4582cc4b2e99

Clear at the bottom.

TaskPaneFix.zip
2K Download

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
1) Normally when I display folder thumbnails they will show me up to 4
miniviews of containing pictures
2) Normally when I place a 'folder.jpg' into the folder it will show me
this picture in large on the folder thumbnail
3) Normally I should be able to customize the folder thumbnail in the
preferences

All of the above does not work on my computer. The folder thumbnail
would be a neutral folder icon.

Furthermore there should be a context menu to each folder allowing me to
"refresh thumbnails". On my computer this particular menu item is
missing (others are there).

I tried to:
- Increase Shell\BagMRU Size and ShellNoRoam\BagMRU Size to 8000
- Recreated registry entries in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT to display thumbnails

When pressing F5 the Thumbs.db will be created.

But all this did not bring me the miniviews into the folder thumbnails.

What can be wrong?

Wesley,
Now things become interesting.

When checking the entries in the registry I found that in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
were two DWORD values: "BagMRU Size" and "Bag MRU Size" (note the additional
space)

After I compared it with my second computer, which works fine, I decided to
remove the latter.
However, no effect.

I then customized a folder according to your instructions and searched its
settings in the registry.
My one was:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2\Shell
and the selected file was listed with name Logo and the path pointing to the
picture on the desktop:
C:\Documents and Settings\Roland Bosshard\Desktop\RolPic.jpg
I.e. all correct!! But not visible in the folder thumbnail icon...

I assume that there might be all correct in the registry.
I'm having another guess now and maybe you have some hints for me.

When I right-click a picture thumbnail I always get the menu "Refresh
Thumbnail"
When I right-click a folder thumbnail I'm NOT getting it. (On my computer c)
-see below- I do)

Could it be that the process responsible to the creation of the thumbnails
does not work or that a DLL is corrupted or old? (Well, I'm not really an
expert).

Do you know, which files/processes are doing the thumbnail creation and
giving me the context menu I'm missing when right-clicking folders?
I could then compare them on my computers and check whether the
signatures/versions match.

FYI. I have 5 computers:
a) 2.6GHz, 750MB Ram, WinXP Pro German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
b) 2.4GHz, 1GB Ram, Win XP Pro Multilingual set to English - With the
"Thumbnail problem"
c) 2GHz, 740MB Ram, Win XP Pro German - No problem at all. Thumbnails are
shown.
d) 3GHZ, 2GB Ram, Win XP MCE German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
e) 3GHz, 2GB Ram, Win Vista Ultimate German - No problem, but here things
are different anyway.

I tried to figure what would make computer c) different from the others. I
use it as server and the other machines synchronize their "My Documents"
folders to it (Offline available).
However the problem occurs on remote files as well as on locally stored and
not synchronized files.

If I don't find a solution for this problem I might have to setup 3
computers from scratch. :-(

I really appreciate you kind support and advises. Thanks a lot for spending
time on my problem! :-))

-------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem.

I understand your problem from reading your posts, no screenshots are
necessary. Unfortunately I do not have a clue why it's happening.
Especially the blank yellow icon after you have applied the selected picture
on folder Properties.

I do not have a clue. ;-(

From your first post I think you've seen this?
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or incorrect
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813711

From Ramesh. The thumbnail image for a folder is stored in a REG_SZ value
named Logo here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\number\Shell

See this and try those things.
Unable to remove the Thumbnail image for system folders in XP
http://www.winxptutor.com/folderthumbs.htm

I did not have any picture folders set up where I chose a picture for the
folder on folder Properties, Customize tab, Choose Picture. So I did that
for one folder. I then did a registry search for Logo in HKEY_CURRENT_USER
and found this.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2135\Shell
Value Name: Logo
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: C:\Documents and Settings\Wesley Vogel\
Desktop\Assorted Logos\Colorado Premium Foods.jpg

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Thanks a lot for the advice!
Unfortunately it did not solve my problem.

I checked your recommendations and performed also the suggested steps.

The common tasks in relation to folders and pictures seem to be OK.
Also thumbnails of pictures are displayed correctly.
The folders are customized for pictures.

My problem is the icon of the folder itself.
Normally when I have folders (containing pictures) in a folder in
thumbnail view they would display either 4 miniviews on their icons or
the "Folder.jpg" picture.

This does not work on my computer.

Furthermore when I choose to customize the folder picture the preview in
the "Properties Customize" tab remains a blank yellow icon after I have
applied the selected picture.

When I right-click a folder containing pictures (which should have the 4
miniviews of the single Folder.jpg picture) there is no menu to refresh
the thumbnail (of the folder).

I have another computer on which all this works fine.

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem. Unfortunately I don't have an ftp site where I
could put them.

------------------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

If a generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view,
type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

from Ramesh Srinivasan @
Generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/imagethumb.htm

If a .jpg file is in a folder that is NOT a Pictures or Photo Album right
clicking the file does not bring up Refresh Thumbnail in the context
menu. To get Refresh Thumbnail, the folder must be a Pictures or Photo
Album folder.

Tip from TweakUI:
[[If you create a file called Folder.jpg, that image will be used as the
thumbnail for the folder. What's more, that image will also be used as
the album art in Windows Media Player for all media files in that
folder.]]

Manually create a folder picture
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003/en-us#4

You can only see Folder Pictures if you have Thumbnail view.

To see Thumbnails in the left hand pane, you need to have Common Tasks
activated.

You also need to have the folder template set for Pictures or Photo
Album.

You may have to click the Folders icon on the Toolbar to switch from
Folders view to show Common Tasks in the left hand pane.

[[You can display hyperlinks to common tasks in the left pane of your
folder windows. The links provide quick access to file and folder
management activities and other places on your computer, such as My
Computer, Shared Documents, and My Network Places. Windows displays
these links by default, so they may already be displayed in your
folders. If they are not, you can use Folder Options to enable this
feature.]]

Start | Run | Type: control folders | Click OK |
General tab | Select: Show common tasks in folders |
Click Apply | Click OK

Show common tasks in folders
[[Specifies that hyperlinks to common folder tasks and other places on
your computer are displayed in folders. These links appear in the left
pane of the folder window.]]

View | Customize This Folder | Select Pictures or Photo Album |
Click Apply | Click OK

Or..

Right click the folder | Properties | Customize tab |
Set to Pictures or Photo Album under what kind of folder do you want? |
Click Apply | Click OK

Use this folder type as a template:
[[Allows you to select a folder template. Folder templates apply specific
features to your folder, such as specialized task links and viewing
options for working with pictures and music.]]

Also apply this template to all subfolders
[[Specifies that the template you select for your folder is applied to
all of its subfolders as well.]]

You can view your pictures as thumbnails in any My Pictures subfolder or
any folder customized as a pictures folder.

If your folders are showing the wrong common tasks for Pictures or Photo
Album folders, see this...

Common Tasks Don’t Match Folder Type
by Keith Miller
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_common_tasks.htm

Keith Miller has a script that can fix the problem. Download
TaskPaneFix.zip attachment from this newsgroup post:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dd4582cc4b2e99

Clear at the bottom.

TaskPaneFix.zip
2K Download

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
1) Normally when I display folder thumbnails they will show me up to 4
miniviews of containing pictures
2) Normally when I place a 'folder.jpg' into the folder it will show me
this picture in large on the folder thumbnail
3) Normally I should be able to customize the folder thumbnail in the
preferences

All of the above does not work on my computer. The folder thumbnail
would be a neutral folder icon.

Furthermore there should be a context menu to each folder allowing me to
"refresh thumbnails". On my computer this particular menu item is
missing (others are there).

I tried to:
- Increase Shell\BagMRU Size and ShellNoRoam\BagMRU Size to 8000
- Recreated registry entries in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT to display thumbnails

When pressing F5 the Thumbs.db will be created.

But all this did not bring me the miniviews into the folder thumbnails.

What can be wrong?

I have these also.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
Both with a Bag MRU Size DWORD and both with a BagMRU Size DWORD.

TweakUI has a setting..
[+] Explorer
Customizations
Folder Customizations, Folders to remember.

This setting affects the Bag MRU Size DWORD in both keys mentioned above. I
fiddled with it and checked those two keys. I seem to remember that this
setting does not work, that it does nothing. It doesn't hurt anything, it
just doesn't do anything. The BagMRU Size DWORD in both keys is what sets
the number of folder customizations that windows remembers.

Shimgvw.dll generates the thumbnails and is also the Windows Picture and Fax
Viewer. Some 3rd party picture programs may unregister shimgvw.dll, but you
said that you registered it. If shimgvw.dl is working correctly, the
Windows Picture and Fax Viewer would work, thumbs would display in Thumbnail
view in folders and Common Tasks image preview would work in all other
folder views. Shimgvw.dll is also responsible for the make file size
smaller when E-mailing picture files.

You may want to try to unregister shimgvw.dll and then reregister it.

Paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

regsvr32 /u shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it unregistered or not.

Then paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

It should be obvious that I have no clue what's happening.

If shimgvw.dll is unregistered, right clicking a picture file will have
Preview missing from the context menu and may cause problems changing user
account and desktop background pictures.

If shimgvw.dll is unregistered, Value Data for this key will be empty.

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\She llEx\
ContextMenuHandlers\ShellImagePreview
Value Name: (Default)
ValueType: REG_SZ
Value Data: {e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066} You get preview
Value Data: If no value (blank) you get no preview

This key has the path to the image viewer for the Preview context menu.
Some 3rd party programs change the path to their executable.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID
\{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}\InProcServer32
Value Name: (Default)
ValueType: REG_EXPAND_SZ
Value Data: %SystemRoot%\system32\shimgvw.dll

Maybe, by accident, something in here might help. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
Now things become interesting.

When checking the entries in the registry I found that in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
were two DWORD values: "BagMRU Size" and "Bag MRU Size" (note the
additional space)

After I compared it with my second computer, which works fine, I decided
to remove the latter.
However, no effect.

I then customized a folder according to your instructions and searched its
settings in the registry.
My one was:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2\Shell
and the selected file was listed with name Logo and the path pointing to
the picture on the desktop:
C:\Documents and Settings\Roland Bosshard\Desktop\RolPic.jpg
I.e. all correct!! But not visible in the folder thumbnail icon...

I assume that there might be all correct in the registry.
I'm having another guess now and maybe you have some hints for me.

When I right-click a picture thumbnail I always get the menu "Refresh
Thumbnail"
When I right-click a folder thumbnail I'm NOT getting it. (On my computer
c) -see below- I do)

Could it be that the process responsible to the creation of the thumbnails
does not work or that a DLL is corrupted or old? (Well, I'm not really an
expert).

Do you know, which files/processes are doing the thumbnail creation and
giving me the context menu I'm missing when right-clicking folders?
I could then compare them on my computers and check whether the
signatures/versions match.

FYI. I have 5 computers:
a) 2.6GHz, 750MB Ram, WinXP Pro German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
b) 2.4GHz, 1GB Ram, Win XP Pro Multilingual set to English - With the
"Thumbnail problem"
c) 2GHz, 740MB Ram, Win XP Pro German - No problem at all. Thumbnails are
shown.
d) 3GHZ, 2GB Ram, Win XP MCE German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
e) 3GHz, 2GB Ram, Win Vista Ultimate German - No problem, but here things
are different anyway.

I tried to figure what would make computer c) different from the others. I
use it as server and the other machines synchronize their "My Documents"
folders to it (Offline available).
However the problem occurs on remote files as well as on locally stored
and not synchronized files.

If I don't find a solution for this problem I might have to setup 3
computers from scratch. :-(

I really appreciate you kind support and advises. Thanks a lot for
spending time on my problem! :-))

-------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem.

I understand your problem from reading your posts, no screenshots are
necessary. Unfortunately I do not have a clue why it's happening.
Especially the blank yellow icon after you have applied the selected
picture on folder Properties.

I do not have a clue. ;-(

From your first post I think you've seen this?
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or incorrect
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813711

From Ramesh. The thumbnail image for a folder is stored in a REG_SZ
value named Logo here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\number\Shell

See this and try those things.
Unable to remove the Thumbnail image for system folders in XP
http://www.winxptutor.com/folderthumbs.htm

I did not have any picture folders set up where I chose a picture for the
folder on folder Properties, Customize tab, Choose Picture. So I did
that for one folder. I then did a registry search for Logo in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER and found this.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2135\Shell
Value Name: Logo
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: C:\Documents and Settings\Wesley Vogel\
Desktop\Assorted Logos\Colorado Premium Foods.jpg

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Thanks a lot for the advice!
Unfortunately it did not solve my problem.

I checked your recommendations and performed also the suggested steps.

The common tasks in relation to folders and pictures seem to be OK.
Also thumbnails of pictures are displayed correctly.
The folders are customized for pictures.

My problem is the icon of the folder itself.
Normally when I have folders (containing pictures) in a folder in
thumbnail view they would display either 4 miniviews on their icons or
the "Folder.jpg" picture.

This does not work on my computer.

Furthermore when I choose to customize the folder picture the preview in
the "Properties Customize" tab remains a blank yellow icon after I
have applied the selected picture.

When I right-click a folder containing pictures (which should have the 4
miniviews of the single Folder.jpg picture) there is no menu to refresh
the thumbnail (of the folder).

I have another computer on which all this works fine.

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem. Unfortunately I don't have an ftp site where I
could put them.

------------------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

If a generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail
view, type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and
click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

from Ramesh Srinivasan @
Generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/imagethumb.htm

If a .jpg file is in a folder that is NOT a Pictures or Photo Album
right clicking the file does not bring up Refresh Thumbnail in the
context menu. To get Refresh Thumbnail, the folder must be a Pictures
or Photo Album folder.

Tip from TweakUI:
[[If you create a file called Folder.jpg, that image will be used as
the thumbnail for the folder. What's more, that image will also be
used as the album art in Windows Media Player for all media files in
that folder.]]

Manually create a folder picture
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003/en-us#4

You can only see Folder Pictures if you have Thumbnail view.

To see Thumbnails in the left hand pane, you need to have Common Tasks
activated.

You also need to have the folder template set for Pictures or Photo
Album.

You may have to click the Folders icon on the Toolbar to switch from
Folders view to show Common Tasks in the left hand pane.

[[You can display hyperlinks to common tasks in the left pane of your
folder windows. The links provide quick access to file and folder
management activities and other places on your computer, such as My
Computer, Shared Documents, and My Network Places. Windows displays
these links by default, so they may already be displayed in your
folders. If they are not, you can use Folder Options to enable this
feature.]]

Start | Run | Type: control folders | Click OK |
General tab | Select: Show common tasks in folders |
Click Apply | Click OK

Show common tasks in folders
[[Specifies that hyperlinks to common folder tasks and other places on
your computer are displayed in folders. These links appear in the left
pane of the folder window.]]

View | Customize This Folder | Select Pictures or Photo Album |
Click Apply | Click OK

Or..

Right click the folder | Properties | Customize tab |
Set to Pictures or Photo Album under what kind of folder do you want? |
Click Apply | Click OK

Use this folder type as a template:
[[Allows you to select a folder template. Folder templates apply
specific features to your folder, such as specialized task links and
viewing options for working with pictures and music.]]

Also apply this template to all subfolders
[[Specifies that the template you select for your folder is applied to
all of its subfolders as well.]]

You can view your pictures as thumbnails in any My Pictures subfolder
or any folder customized as a pictures folder.

If your folders are showing the wrong common tasks for Pictures or
Photo Album folders, see this...

Common Tasks Don’t Match Folder Type
by Keith Miller
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_common_tasks.htm

Keith Miller has a script that can fix the problem. Download
TaskPaneFix.zip attachment from this newsgroup post:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dd4582cc4b2e99

Clear at the bottom.

TaskPaneFix.zip
2K Download

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
1) Normally when I display folder thumbnails they will show me up to 4
miniviews of containing pictures
2) Normally when I place a 'folder.jpg' into the folder it will show
me this picture in large on the folder thumbnail
3) Normally I should be able to customize the folder thumbnail in the
preferences

All of the above does not work on my computer. The folder thumbnail
would be a neutral folder icon.

Furthermore there should be a context menu to each folder allowing me
to "refresh thumbnails". On my computer this particular menu item is
missing (others are there).

I tried to:
- Increase Shell\BagMRU Size and ShellNoRoam\BagMRU Size to 8000
- Recreated registry entries in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT to display
thumbnails

When pressing F5 the Thumbs.db will be created.

But all this did not bring me the miniviews into the folder
thumbnails.

What can be wrong?

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

Wesley,
You hints brought me onto the right track!
I started to dig through the registry and compared the entries with those of
the computer, which was OK.

I took also some hints from Ramesh's site:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/context_folders.htm

I found some strange entries in:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shellex
and
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shellex

Right first in this branch was a key called
{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}

This key had the value {9FA2564D-A9DD-4330-94FF-EC75ADE0798A}

This value pointed to a DLL named 'ArCon Folder Thumbview', which is:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ACSHLEXT.DLL

I found out that ACSHLEXT.DLL belongs to a home planner software 'VOX 3D
Planer Version 2.0', which I bought recently for interior planning (VOX is a
German TV station).
By the way: I suspected this software already and I had it removed from my
PC. As this did not bring the solution I gave up in this direction
(apparently the uninstaller did not do its job completely).

End of the story: I deleted the (strange) keys in
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shellex and HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shellex and
everything was back to normal!!!!

Yippieeeeeeee!
Thanks a lot Wesley for helping me and guiding me the way to the solution!!!
Actually I owe you now a large piece of Swiss chocolate!

Roland

-----------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I have these also.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
Both with a Bag MRU Size DWORD and both with a BagMRU Size DWORD.

TweakUI has a setting..
[+] Explorer
Customizations
Folder Customizations, Folders to remember.

This setting affects the Bag MRU Size DWORD in both keys mentioned above. I
fiddled with it and checked those two keys. I seem to remember that this
setting does not work, that it does nothing. It doesn't hurt anything, it
just doesn't do anything. The BagMRU Size DWORD in both keys is what sets
the number of folder customizations that windows remembers.

Shimgvw.dll generates the thumbnails and is also the Windows Picture and Fax
Viewer. Some 3rd party picture programs may unregister shimgvw.dll, but you
said that you registered it. If shimgvw.dl is working correctly, the
Windows Picture and Fax Viewer would work, thumbs would display in Thumbnail
view in folders and Common Tasks image preview would work in all other
folder views. Shimgvw.dll is also responsible for the make file size
smaller when E-mailing picture files.

You may want to try to unregister shimgvw.dll and then reregister it.

Paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

regsvr32 /u shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it unregistered or not.

Then paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

It should be obvious that I have no clue what's happening.

If shimgvw.dll is unregistered, right clicking a picture file will have
Preview missing from the context menu and may cause problems changing user
account and desktop background pictures.

If shimgvw.dll is unregistered, Value Data for this key will be empty.

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\She llEx\
ContextMenuHandlers\ShellImagePreview
Value Name: (Default)
ValueType: REG_SZ
Value Data: {e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066} You get preview
Value Data: If no value (blank) you get no preview

This key has the path to the image viewer for the Preview context menu.
Some 3rd party programs change the path to their executable.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID
\{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}\InProcServer32
Value Name: (Default)
ValueType: REG_EXPAND_SZ
Value Data: %SystemRoot%\system32\shimgvw.dll

Maybe, by accident, something in here might help. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
Now things become interesting.

When checking the entries in the registry I found that in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
were two DWORD values: "BagMRU Size" and "Bag MRU Size" (note the
additional space)

After I compared it with my second computer, which works fine, I decided
to remove the latter.
However, no effect.

I then customized a folder according to your instructions and searched its
settings in the registry.
My one was:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2\Shell
and the selected file was listed with name Logo and the path pointing to
the picture on the desktop:
C:\Documents and Settings\Roland Bosshard\Desktop\RolPic.jpg
I.e. all correct!! But not visible in the folder thumbnail icon...

I assume that there might be all correct in the registry.
I'm having another guess now and maybe you have some hints for me.

When I right-click a picture thumbnail I always get the menu "Refresh
Thumbnail"
When I right-click a folder thumbnail I'm NOT getting it. (On my computer
c) -see below- I do)

Could it be that the process responsible to the creation of the thumbnails
does not work or that a DLL is corrupted or old? (Well, I'm not really an
expert).

Do you know, which files/processes are doing the thumbnail creation and
giving me the context menu I'm missing when right-clicking folders?
I could then compare them on my computers and check whether the
signatures/versions match.

FYI. I have 5 computers:
a) 2.6GHz, 750MB Ram, WinXP Pro German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
b) 2.4GHz, 1GB Ram, Win XP Pro Multilingual set to English - With the
"Thumbnail problem"
c) 2GHz, 740MB Ram, Win XP Pro German - No problem at all. Thumbnails are
shown.
d) 3GHZ, 2GB Ram, Win XP MCE German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
e) 3GHz, 2GB Ram, Win Vista Ultimate German - No problem, but here things
are different anyway.

I tried to figure what would make computer c) different from the others. I
use it as server and the other machines synchronize their "My Documents"
folders to it (Offline available).
However the problem occurs on remote files as well as on locally stored
and not synchronized files.

If I don't find a solution for this problem I might have to setup 3
computers from scratch. :-(

I really appreciate you kind support and advises. Thanks a lot for
spending time on my problem! :-))

-------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem.

I understand your problem from reading your posts, no screenshots are
necessary. Unfortunately I do not have a clue why it's happening.
Especially the blank yellow icon after you have applied the selected
picture on folder Properties.

I do not have a clue. ;-(

From your first post I think you've seen this?
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or incorrect
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813711

From Ramesh. The thumbnail image for a folder is stored in a REG_SZ
value named Logo here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\number\Shell

See this and try those things.
Unable to remove the Thumbnail image for system folders in XP
http://www.winxptutor.com/folderthumbs.htm

I did not have any picture folders set up where I chose a picture for the
folder on folder Properties, Customize tab, Choose Picture. So I did
that for one folder. I then did a registry search for Logo in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER and found this.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2135\Shell
Value Name: Logo
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: C:\Documents and Settings\Wesley Vogel\
Desktop\Assorted Logos\Colorado Premium Foods.jpg

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Thanks a lot for the advice!
Unfortunately it did not solve my problem.

I checked your recommendations and performed also the suggested steps.

The common tasks in relation to folders and pictures seem to be OK.
Also thumbnails of pictures are displayed correctly.
The folders are customized for pictures.

My problem is the icon of the folder itself.
Normally when I have folders (containing pictures) in a folder in
thumbnail view they would display either 4 miniviews on their icons or
the "Folder.jpg" picture.

This does not work on my computer.

Furthermore when I choose to customize the folder picture the preview in
the "Properties Customize" tab remains a blank yellow icon after I
have applied the selected picture.

When I right-click a folder containing pictures (which should have the 4
miniviews of the single Folder.jpg picture) there is no menu to refresh
the thumbnail (of the folder).

I have another computer on which all this works fine.

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem. Unfortunately I don't have an ftp site where I
could put them.

------------------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

If a generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail
view, type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and
click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

from Ramesh Srinivasan @
Generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/imagethumb.htm

If a .jpg file is in a folder that is NOT a Pictures or Photo Album
right clicking the file does not bring up Refresh Thumbnail in the
context menu. To get Refresh Thumbnail, the folder must be a Pictures
or Photo Album folder.

Tip from TweakUI:
[[If you create a file called Folder.jpg, that image will be used as
the thumbnail for the folder. What's more, that image will also be
used as the album art in Windows Media Player for all media files in
that folder.]]

Manually create a folder picture
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003/en-us#4

You can only see Folder Pictures if you have Thumbnail view.

To see Thumbnails in the left hand pane, you need to have Common Tasks
activated.

You also need to have the folder template set for Pictures or Photo
Album.

You may have to click the Folders icon on the Toolbar to switch from
Folders view to show Common Tasks in the left hand pane.

[[You can display hyperlinks to common tasks in the left pane of your
folder windows. The links provide quick access to file and folder
management activities and other places on your computer, such as My
Computer, Shared Documents, and My Network Places. Windows displays
these links by default, so they may already be displayed in your
folders. If they are not, you can use Folder Options to enable this
feature.]]

Start | Run | Type: control folders | Click OK |
General tab | Select: Show common tasks in folders |
Click Apply | Click OK

Show common tasks in folders
[[Specifies that hyperlinks to common folder tasks and other places on
your computer are displayed in folders. These links appear in the left
pane of the folder window.]]

View | Customize This Folder | Select Pictures or Photo Album |
Click Apply | Click OK

Or..

Right click the folder | Properties | Customize tab |
Set to Pictures or Photo Album under what kind of folder do you want? |
Click Apply | Click OK

Use this folder type as a template:
[[Allows you to select a folder template. Folder templates apply
specific features to your folder, such as specialized task links and
viewing options for working with pictures and music.]]

Also apply this template to all subfolders
[[Specifies that the template you select for your folder is applied to
all of its subfolders as well.]]

You can view your pictures as thumbnails in any My Pictures subfolder
or any folder customized as a pictures folder.

If your folders are showing the wrong common tasks for Pictures or
Photo Album folders, see this...

Common Tasks Don’t Match Folder Type
by Keith Miller
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_common_tasks.htm

Keith Miller has a script that can fix the problem. Download
TaskPaneFix.zip attachment from this newsgroup post:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dd4582cc4b2e99

Hi Roland,

Glad you got it sorted out.

BTW, Vox stands for Voice Operated Switch. And Vox makes guitars and amps.
The Beatles used Vox amps. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

Wesley,
You hints brought me onto the right track!
I started to dig through the registry and compared the entries with those
of the computer, which was OK.

I took also some hints from Ramesh's site:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/context_folders.htm

I found some strange entries in:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shellex
and
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shellex

Right first in this branch was a key called
{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}

This key had the value {9FA2564D-A9DD-4330-94FF-EC75ADE0798A}

This value pointed to a DLL named 'ArCon Folder Thumbview', which is:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ACSHLEXT.DLL

I found out that ACSHLEXT.DLL belongs to a home planner software 'VOX 3D
Planer Version 2.0', which I bought recently for interior planning (VOX
is a German TV station).
By the way: I suspected this software already and I had it removed from my
PC. As this did not bring the solution I gave up in this direction
(apparently the uninstaller did not do its job completely).

End of the story: I deleted the (strange) keys in
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shellex and HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shellex
and everything was back to normal!!!!

Yippieeeeeeee!
Thanks a lot Wesley for helping me and guiding me the way to the
solution!!! Actually I owe you now a large piece of Swiss chocolate!

Roland

-----------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I have these also.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
Both with a Bag MRU Size DWORD and both with a BagMRU Size DWORD.

TweakUI has a setting..
[+] Explorer
Customizations
Folder Customizations, Folders to remember.

This setting affects the Bag MRU Size DWORD in both keys mentioned
above. I fiddled with it and checked those two keys. I seem to
remember that this setting does not work, that it does nothing. It
doesn't hurt anything, it just doesn't do anything. The BagMRU Size
DWORD in both keys is what sets the number of folder customizations that
windows remembers.

Shimgvw.dll generates the thumbnails and is also the Windows Picture and
Fax Viewer. Some 3rd party picture programs may unregister shimgvw.dll,
but you said that you registered it. If shimgvw.dl is working
correctly, the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer would work, thumbs would
display in Thumbnail view in folders and Common Tasks image preview
would work in all other folder views. Shimgvw.dll is also responsible
for the make file size smaller when E-mailing picture files.

You may want to try to unregister shimgvw.dll and then reregister it.

Paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

regsvr32 /u shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it unregistered or not.

Then paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

It should be obvious that I have no clue what's happening.

If shimgvw.dll is unregistered, right clicking a picture file will have
Preview missing from the context menu and may cause problems changing
user account and desktop background pictures.

If shimgvw.dll is unregistered, Value Data for this key will be empty.

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\She llEx\
ContextMenuHandlers\ShellImagePreview
Value Name: (Default)
ValueType: REG_SZ
Value Data: {e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066} You get preview
Value Data: If no value (blank) you get no preview

This key has the path to the image viewer for the Preview context menu.
Some 3rd party programs change the path to their executable.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID
\{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}\InProcServer32
Value Name: (Default)
ValueType: REG_EXPAND_SZ
Value Data: %SystemRoot%\system32\shimgvw.dll

Maybe, by accident, something in here might help. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
Now things become interesting.

When checking the entries in the registry I found that in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
were two DWORD values: "BagMRU Size" and "Bag MRU Size" (note the
additional space)

After I compared it with my second computer, which works fine, I decided
to remove the latter.
However, no effect.

I then customized a folder according to your instructions and searched
its settings in the registry.
My one was:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2\Shell
and the selected file was listed with name Logo and the path pointing to
the picture on the desktop:
C:\Documents and Settings\Roland Bosshard\Desktop\RolPic.jpg
I.e. all correct!! But not visible in the folder thumbnail icon...

I assume that there might be all correct in the registry.
I'm having another guess now and maybe you have some hints for me.

When I right-click a picture thumbnail I always get the menu "Refresh
Thumbnail"
When I right-click a folder thumbnail I'm NOT getting it. (On my
computer c) -see below- I do)

Could it be that the process responsible to the creation of the
thumbnails does not work or that a DLL is corrupted or old? (Well, I'm
not really an expert).

Do you know, which files/processes are doing the thumbnail creation and
giving me the context menu I'm missing when right-clicking folders?
I could then compare them on my computers and check whether the
signatures/versions match.

FYI. I have 5 computers:
a) 2.6GHz, 750MB Ram, WinXP Pro German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
b) 2.4GHz, 1GB Ram, Win XP Pro Multilingual set to English - With the
"Thumbnail problem"
c) 2GHz, 740MB Ram, Win XP Pro German - No problem at all. Thumbnails
are shown.
d) 3GHZ, 2GB Ram, Win XP MCE German - With the "Thumbnail problem"
e) 3GHz, 2GB Ram, Win Vista Ultimate German - No problem, but here
things are different anyway.

I tried to figure what would make computer c) different from the
others. I use it as server and the other machines synchronize their "My
Documents" folders to it (Offline available).
However the problem occurs on remote files as well as on locally stored
and not synchronized files.

If I don't find a solution for this problem I might have to setup 3
computers from scratch. :-(

I really appreciate you kind support and advises. Thanks a lot for
spending time on my problem! :-))

-------------------------------------

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem.

I understand your problem from reading your posts, no screenshots are
necessary. Unfortunately I do not have a clue why it's happening.
Especially the blank yellow icon after you have applied the selected
picture on folder Properties.

I do not have a clue. ;-(

From your first post I think you've seen this?
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or incorrect
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813711

From Ramesh. The thumbnail image for a folder is stored in a REG_SZ
value named Logo here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\number\Shell

See this and try those things.
Unable to remove the Thumbnail image for system folders in XP
http://www.winxptutor.com/folderthumbs.htm

I did not have any picture folders set up where I chose a picture for
the folder on folder Properties, Customize tab, Choose Picture. So I
did that for one folder. I then did a registry search for Logo in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER and found this.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags\2135\Shell
Value Name: Logo
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: C:\Documents and Settings\Wesley Vogel\
Desktop\Assorted Logos\Colorado Premium Foods.jpg

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Rolboss hunted and pecked:
Thanks a lot for the advice!
Unfortunately it did not solve my problem.

I checked your recommendations and performed also the suggested steps.

The common tasks in relation to folders and pictures seem to be OK.
Also thumbnails of pictures are displayed correctly.
The folders are customized for pictures.

My problem is the icon of the folder itself.
Normally when I have folders (containing pictures) in a folder in
thumbnail view they would display either 4 miniviews on their icons or
the "Folder.jpg" picture.

This does not work on my computer.

Furthermore when I choose to customize the folder picture the preview
in the "Properties Customize" tab remains a blank yellow icon after
I have applied the selected picture.

When I right-click a folder containing pictures (which should have
the 4 miniviews of the single Folder.jpg picture) there is no menu to
refresh the thumbnail (of the folder).

I have another computer on which all this works fine.

I made some screenshots, which I would be happy to show in order to
illustrate my problem. Unfortunately I don't have an ftp site where I
could put them.

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"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

If a generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail
view, type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and
click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should see a message telling if it registered or not.

from Ramesh Srinivasan @
Generic icon is displayed for a picture file when in Thumbnail view
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/imagethumb.htm

If a .jpg file is in a folder that is NOT a Pictures or Photo Album
right clicking the file does not bring up Refresh Thumbnail in the
context menu. To get Refresh Thumbnail, the folder must be a Pictures
or Photo Album folder.

Tip from TweakUI:
[[If you create a file called Folder.jpg, that image will be used as
the thumbnail for the folder. What's more, that image will also be
used as the album art in Windows Media Player for all media files in
that folder.]]

Manually create a folder picture
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003/en-us#4

You can only see Folder Pictures if you have Thumbnail view.

To see Thumbnails in the left hand pane, you need to have Common
Tasks activated.

You also need to have the folder template set for Pictures or Photo
Album.

You may have to click the Folders icon on the Toolbar to switch from
Folders view to show Common Tasks in the left hand pane.

[[You can display hyperlinks to common tasks in the left pane of your
folder windows. The links provide quick access to file and folder
management activities and other places on your computer, such as My
Computer, Shared Documents, and My Network Places. Windows displays
these links by default, so they may already be displayed in your
folders. If they are not, you can use Folder Options to enable this
feature.]]

Start | Run | Type: control folders | Click OK |
General tab | Select: Show common tasks in folders |
Click Apply | Click OK

Show common tasks in folders
[[Specifies that hyperlinks to common folder tasks and other places
on your computer are displayed in folders. These links appear in the
left pane of the folder window.]]

View | Customize This Folder | Select Pictures or Photo Album |
Click Apply | Click OK

Or..

Right click the folder | Properties | Customize tab |
Set to Pictures or Photo Album under what kind of folder do you
want? | Click Apply | Click OK

Use this folder type as a template:
[[Allows you to select a folder template. Folder templates apply
specific features to your folder, such as specialized task links and
viewing options for working with pictures and music.]]

Also apply this template to all subfolders
[[Specifies that the template you select for your folder is applied
to all of its subfolders as well.]]

You can view your pictures as thumbnails in any My Pictures subfolder
or any folder customized as a pictures folder.

If your folders are showing the wrong common tasks for Pictures or
Photo Album folders, see this...

Common Tasks Don’t Match Folder Type
by Keith Miller
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_common_tasks.htm

Keith Miller has a script that can fix the problem. Download
TaskPaneFix.zip attachment from this newsgroup post:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dd4582cc4b2e99