Impressions of Win 10 TP so far

My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 6:47 PM:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

I agree and I don't like the way they handled the menu. IMHO they
botched it again. What in the world was wrong with Windows 7 menu?
Then add some functionality to get the the start screen if you want it.
If I'm a desktop user I surely don't need tiles in any fashion. They
hold no value for a desktop. My mouse pointer isn't that big.

I may just stay on 8.1 till it dies (or I do) if 10 doesn't get that
much better. I paid $39.99 for win8, if 10 is free, I might go up. My
3rd party menu works and fixes the menu so why not if it's free.

On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:10:03 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 6:47 PM:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change.
Turning off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it
:-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

I agree and I don't like the way they handled the menu. IMHO they
botched it again. What in the world was wrong with Windows 7 menu?
Then add some functionality to get the the start screen if you want it.
If I'm a desktop user I surely don't need tiles in any fashion. They
hold no value for a desktop. My mouse pointer isn't that big.

I may just stay on 8.1 till it dies (or I do) if 10 doesn't get that
much better. I paid $39.99 for win8, if 10 is free, I might go up. My
3rd party menu works and fixes the menu so why not if it's free.

You can get rid of the tiles on the desktop menu simply by right clicking
each one in turn and unpinning it. When the last one is gone the sidebar
on the menu disappears.
You can access any of the Modern Interface tiles from the desktop start
menu by clicking on the "All Apps" bit at the bottom. A column of
miniaturised tile icons then appears in the menu.

Apologies if you were already aware of this.

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 7:35 PM:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:10:03 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 6:47 PM:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change.
Turning off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it
:-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

I agree and I don't like the way they handled the menu. IMHO they
botched it again. What in the world was wrong with Windows 7 menu?
Then add some functionality to get the the start screen if you want it.
If I'm a desktop user I surely don't need tiles in any fashion. They
hold no value for a desktop. My mouse pointer isn't that big.

I may just stay on 8.1 till it dies (or I do) if 10 doesn't get that
much better. I paid $39.99 for win8, if 10 is free, I might go up. My
3rd party menu works and fixes the menu so why not if it's free.

You can get rid of the tiles on the desktop menu simply by right clicking
each one in turn and unpinning it. When the last one is gone the sidebar
on the menu disappears.
You can access any of the Modern Interface tiles from the desktop start
menu by clicking on the "All Apps" bit at the bottom. A column of
miniaturised tile icons then appears in the menu.

Apologies if you were already aware of this.

I did, but it's more the point, 'Tiles on the desktop?' I'm a
perfectionist at heart, and I'm sure I'll never be satisfied :-)

John Aldred wrote:

You can get rid of the tiles on the desktop menu simply by right clicking
each one in turn and unpinning it. When the last one is gone the sidebar
on the menu disappears.

Thanks for that, I'd wondered if it was possible, or you were forced to
keep a sprinkling of tiles. Still, I don't think I'll be rushing to
replace Win8+Start8.

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.

I therefore need 32 bit version.

My desktop is full of shortcuts of desktop programs.

I am disappointed that "send to desktop" option is still missing
in the new start list. One has to go to "file location" to do that.

I would like big "show desktop" icon task bar. I have a third party
program that gives me that.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ut-create.html

HS

HS wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.
I therefore need 32 bit version.

DOSbox or DOSemu?

HS wrote on 11/4/2014 4:23 AM:


Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.

I therefore need 32 bit version.

My desktop is full of shortcuts of desktop programs.

I am disappointed that "send to desktop" option is still missing
in the new start list. One has to go to "file location" to do that.

I would like big "show desktop" icon task bar. I have a third party
program that gives me that.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ut-create.html


HS

You know you can make a "send to" anywhere item in that right click
context list! Just open:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\SendTo folder and
make shortcuts to other places there. I like to save wallpapers so I
have a wallpapers folder in my pictures directory. I just right click
that wallpapers folder and drag it to the "sendto" folder and release
and pick "make shortcut here". Simple as pie.

Note the AppData is a hidden folder.

Win 8 has a show desktop. Bottom right corner, just click and the
desktop is made visable. Is that what you mean. I think the same is in
10, but don't hold me to it.

Sounds right to me! I wont be getting it in class but that's cool, I still
like using XP 32bit and because it sounds like a direction I was thinking
they might should repeat from NT to XP, and missing 9 sort of illuminates
that. I thought 8 had multiple desktops, thus I believe they may have went
back to XP SP3 then dressed in sneakers.. Case dismissed.


"John Aldred" wrote in message
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My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

On 11/03/2014 05:47 PM, John Aldred wrote:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?




Win8x has been nothing but problems for the people whose computers I
must support.

I've seen it terrorize just too many people who are just plain never
going to learn how to use a computer other than by rote.


I've had to install Classic Shell on every Win8 machine I've worked on...
and it's not just the older people, I have not seen any of the younger
generation like it either.

Win8 is fine on tablets though and I think Win10 will be more popular

On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:27:39 -0600, philo wrote:



Win8x has been nothing but problems for the people whose computers I
must support.

I've seen it terrorize just too many people who are just plain never
going to learn how to use a computer other than by rote.


I may be agreeing with you very soon.
My 76 year old neighbour came to see me today. His XP machine had gone
belly up and he wanted to buy a new one. I showed him Win 8.1 on my
machine, which didn't seem to give him the horrors, so I have helped him
to purchase a new desktop machine.

The fun starts tomorrow when it arrives. I will have to guide him through
the set-up :-(

John Aldred wrote on 11/5/2014 4:15 PM:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:27:39 -0600, philo wrote:



Win8x has been nothing but problems for the people whose computers I
must support.

I've seen it terrorize just too many people who are just plain never
going to learn how to use a computer other than by rote.


I may be agreeing with you very soon.
My 76 year old neighbour came to see me today. His XP machine had gone
belly up and he wanted to buy a new one. I showed him Win 8.1 on my
machine, which didn't seem to give him the horrors, so I have helped him
to purchase a new desktop machine.

The fun starts tomorrow when it arrives. I will have to guide him through
the set-up :-(

Boot to desktop and add classic shell and I think you're 90% of the way home.
I've been on 8.1 for over 2 years. Installed it day one. Can't live without it.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 16:27:50 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

John Aldred wrote on 11/5/2014 4:15 PM:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:27:39 -0600, philo wrote:



Win8x has been nothing but problems for the people whose computers I
must support.

I've seen it terrorize just too many people who are just plain never
going to learn how to use a computer other than by rote.


I may be agreeing with you very soon.
My 76 year old neighbour came to see me today. His XP machine had gone
belly up and he wanted to buy a new one. I showed him Win 8.1 on my
machine, which didn't seem to give him the horrors, so I have helped
him to purchase a new desktop machine.

The fun starts tomorrow when it arrives. I will have to guide him
through the set-up :-(

Boot to desktop and add classic shell and I think you're 90% of the way
home. I've been on 8.1 for over 2 years. Installed it day one. Can't
live without it.

I was thinking of the initial set up eg Microsoft account/local login.
Will his old printer work with 8.1? Getting his materials transferred
from the old XP machine. etc
Should keep me out of mischief for a while :-)

John Aldred wrote on 11/5/2014 6:31 PM:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 16:27:50 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

John Aldred wrote on 11/5/2014 4:15 PM:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:27:39 -0600, philo wrote:



Win8x has been nothing but problems for the people whose computers I
must support.

I've seen it terrorize just too many people who are just plain never
going to learn how to use a computer other than by rote.


I may be agreeing with you very soon.
My 76 year old neighbour came to see me today. His XP machine had gone
belly up and he wanted to buy a new one. I showed him Win 8.1 on my
machine, which didn't seem to give him the horrors, so I have helped
him to purchase a new desktop machine.

The fun starts tomorrow when it arrives. I will have to guide him
through the set-up :-(

Boot to desktop and add classic shell and I think you're 90% of the way
home. I've been on 8.1 for over 2 years. Installed it day one. Can't
live without it.

I was thinking of the initial set up eg Microsoft account/local login.
Will his old printer work with 8.1? Getting his materials transferred
from the old XP machine. etc
Should keep me out of mischief for a while :-)

:-)

"John Aldred" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 16:27:50 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

John Aldred wrote on 11/5/2014 4:15 PM:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:27:39 -0600, philo wrote:



Win8x has been nothing but problems for the people whose computers I
must support.

I've seen it terrorize just too many people who are just plain never
going to learn how to use a computer other than by rote.


I may be agreeing with you very soon.
My 76 year old neighbour came to see me today. His XP machine had gone
belly up and he wanted to buy a new one. I showed him Win 8.1 on my
machine, which didn't seem to give him the horrors, so I have helped
him to purchase a new desktop machine.

The fun starts tomorrow when it arrives. I will have to guide him
through the set-up :-(

Boot to desktop and add classic shell and I think you're 90% of the way
home. I've been on 8.1 for over 2 years. Installed it day one. Can't
live without it.

I was thinking of the initial set up eg Microsoft account/local login.
Will his old printer work with 8.1? Getting his materials transferred
from the old XP machine. etc
Should keep me out of mischief for a while :-)

Depends on how old the printer is, make, model, etc. Check the
manufacturer's website and see if they have Win8x drivers listed for it.

I agree with Big Al- set up Classic Shell or one of the other 3rd party
Start menu programs and he may not notice much difference. I use
StartIsBack on my 8.1 laptop, and there is virtually no difference between
it and my Win7 desktop, which looks pretty much like XP thanks to Classic
Shell.

If he's like some of the XP people I've dealt with (and it's been a while),
the biggest obstacle they had was changing email programs. No matter what, I
think you do have a fun few days coming up :-)
--
SC Tom