No Linux-based OS can do this.

On 8/31/19 9:14 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
On 8/31/19 7:38 PM, Snit wrote:
I hate the Apple mice

Apple's keyboards and mice are designed by satan himself!

Is that who Jony Ive is ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive

I thought he was the God Of Shiny White Plastic.

Â*Â* Paul

That would explain the "artsy fartsy" nature
of his designs over functionality.

[snip]

My favorite typo is "Widows" for "Windows".Â* I get
razzed a lot for that one.Â* All funny!

-T

I've done that one.

On the first computer I bought (1982, BASIC language), I often entered
LUST instead of LIST (strangely, U and I keys were next to each other).

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Quantum mechanics is so counter-intuitive, physicists have never been
able to come up with a comfortable picture of how it works." Taner Edis,
Is Anybody Out There?

On 8/31/19 5:40 PM, Rabid Robot wrote:

or sowed it onto their clothing.

Another "wrong word" for my anonymous collection...

Some of the more common pairs (where people use the wrong word) are
loose / lose and breath / breathe.

BTW, at least I can IMAGINE "common pears" there.

Paul wrote:
Lucifer wrote:

I have a single button Apple 'pod' mouse.
How can I use that?

You can use the shiny plastic to blind an
opponent in a street fight.

You can swing it around your head, like a bola.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/survival...-game-hunting/


You can tie up a kidnapping victim with it
(corded model only).

Or you can be self-satisfied and smug that you blew good money for a
system that you can now spend more to replace stuff to make it
actually...useful.

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 8/31/19 5:58 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

My favorite typo is "Widows" for "Windows".Â* I get
razzed a lot for that one.Â* All funny!

-T

I blame things on autocarrot.

That's where I found out that "poss" was a word, from the spell checker
correcting a misspelled "possability" as "poss ability".

One meaning of "poss" seems to be a synonym of "dash", as when a scared
cat gets inside your house and all you see is a blur.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Quantum mechanics is so counter-intuitive, physicists have never been
able to come up with a comfortable picture of how it works." Taner Edis,
Is Anybody Out There?

Sam E wrote:
On 8/31/19 5:40 PM, Rabid Robot wrote:

or sowed it onto their clothing.

Another "wrong word" for my anonymous collection...

Some of the more common pairs (where people use the wrong word) are
loose / lose and breath / breathe.

BTW, at least I can IMAGINE "common pears" there.

Maybe he is truly progressive and found an "organic" way of doing it ;-)

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 8/31/19 9:03 PM, T wrote:
On 8/31/19 7:48 PM, Paul wrote:
ThisÂ*isÂ*aÂ*lotÂ*likeÂ*aÂ*"vi"Â*versusÂ*"emacs"Â* discussion.

That always starts fights over on the Linux group.Â* Chuckle.

I use Leafpad (simple text editor and lets me save in CD+_LF)

vi (editor from hell) because it know it and it does
somethings better and is really fast.

Geany because it work well over ssh and X11

never learned emacs


When I am having issues which copy and pasting weird
formatting, I will past into Leafpad to drop all the
formatting, then copy and paste from Leafpad to where
I want to go.Â*Â* Like ctrlshiftv when it is not
available


Same here. I will sometimes use BBEdit for that, but most of the
programs I use have a "Past and Match Style" featu

https://youtu.be/afoubyc2TRQ



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On 8/31/19 8:54 PM, T wrote:
On 8/31/19 7:38 PM, Snit wrote:
IÂ*hateÂ*theÂ*AppleÂ*mice

Apple's keyboards and mice are designed by satan himself!



I like the keyboards -- though they do have letters wear off over time
which is a bit silly (should be more than just printed on).

The mice, though, do not work for me at all. Hate'm. Know others who
love them -- and to each their own.

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On 8/31/19 9:12 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , wrote:

Apple's keyboards and mice are designed by satan himself!

then get different ones. anything usb or bluetooth works.


My favorite is the MX518... which I just found out has been brought
back! Apparently I am not the only fan of it:

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/prod...ing-mouse.html

I am not a gamer but LOVE that mouse.

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On 8/31/19 8:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

A lot of people love MacOS.Â* Hardly anything goes wrong.Â* Most,
I have to show how to reboot and shutdown their machines and
most annoyingly, how to terminate an program.

You often to do not have to...

it's also very easy, either press command-q or choose quit from the
file menu.

Sure. Or do it from the Dock.

just close the last window and it can run
fine in the background.

better yet, don't worry about it.

For the most part, true.

an idle app has little to no adverse effect, and it's much faster to
switch back to an idle app than it is to relaunch it.

With some exceptions, true. Some use CPU for whatever reason.

But, yes, sometimes it needs to be restarted or
whatever and novices might not know to restart from menu or dock.

rarely does the system need to be restarted, but if so, there's a
restart menu item.

I meant restart the program -- not reboot the system. Apple does call
that "restart" though, so I can see where this was not clear.

There is also the issue of installing a program and then having no clue
where to find it. Not a BIG deal, but Apple could improve on that.

no such issue.

installed apps are in the applications folder, unless the user put it
somewhere else.

Of course it is in the Application menu... but what I am noting is many
new / non-techie users do not even really know what that means.



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somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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On 9/1/19 11:24 AM, Snit wrote:
On 8/31/19 9:03 PM, T wrote:
On 8/31/19 7:48 PM, Paul wrote:
ThisÂ*isÂ*aÂ*lotÂ*likeÂ*aÂ*"vi"Â*versusÂ*"emacs"Â* discussion.

That always starts fights over on the Linux group.Â* Chuckle.

I use Leafpad (simple text editor and lets me save in CD+_LF)

vi (editor from hell) because it know it and it does
somethings better and is really fast.

Geany because it work well over ssh and X11

never learned emacs


When I am having issues which copy and pasting weird
formatting, I will past into Leafpad to drop all the
formatting, then copy and paste from Leafpad to where
I want to go.Â*Â* Like ctrlshiftv when it is not
available


Same here. I will sometimes use BBEdit for that, but most of the
programs I use have a "Past and Match Style" featu

https://youtu.be/afoubyc2TRQ




Um, PASTE and match style.

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article , Snit
wrote:


an idle app has little to no adverse effect, and it's much faster to
switch back to an idle app than it is to relaunch it.

With some exceptions, true. Some use CPU for whatever reason.

they shouldn't unless they're a background app, in which case it's not
visible in the dock nor can it be switched to.

But, yes, sometimes it needs to be restarted or
whatever and novices might not know to restart from menu or dock.

rarely does the system need to be restarted, but if so, there's a
restart menu item.

I meant restart the program -- not reboot the system. Apple does call
that "restart" though, so I can see where this was not clear.

actually they don't, but regardless, the only reason to relaunch a
program is if it crashed, and the crash dialog has a button to do
exactly that.

https://images.techhive.com/images/a...y-mail-quit-10
0025202-large.png

There is also the issue of installing a program and then having no clue
where to find it. Not a BIG deal, but Apple could improve on that.

no such issue.

installed apps are in the applications folder, unless the user put it
somewhere else.

Of course it is in the Application menu... but what I am noting is many
new / non-techie users do not even really know what that means.

for that type of user, put the relevant apps in the dock for them, or
better yet, get them an ipad.

On 9/1/19 12:13 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:


an idle app has little to no adverse effect, and it's much faster to
switch back to an idle app than it is to relaunch it.

With some exceptions, true. Some use CPU for whatever reason.

they shouldn't unless they're a background app, in which case it's not
visible in the dock nor can it be switched to.

Should or should not... they can and sometimes do.

But, yes, sometimes it needs to be restarted or
whatever and novices might not know to restart from menu or dock.

rarely does the system need to be restarted, but if so, there's a
restart menu item.

I meant restart the program -- not reboot the system. Apple does call
that "restart" though, so I can see where this was not clear.

actually they don't, but regardless, the only reason to relaunch a
program is if it crashed, and the crash dialog has a button to do
exactly that.

Apple Restart...

They do.

And there are times it is good to relaunch a program when it is being slow.

https://images.techhive.com/images/a...y-mail-quit-10
0025202-large.png

There is also the issue of installing a program and then having no clue
where to find it. Not a BIG deal, but Apple could improve on that.

no such issue.

installed apps are in the applications folder, unless the user put it
somewhere else.

Of course it is in the Application menu... but what I am noting is many
new / non-techie users do not even really know what that means.

for that type of user, put the relevant apps in the dock for them, or

I do not tend to go to the house of strangers and put things on their
dock, but, sure, if I am working with them I do.

better yet, get them an ipad.

I am not going to buy people iPads. Are you willing to buy me one?





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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
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In article , Snit
wrote:


But, yes, sometimes it needs to be restarted or
whatever and novices might not know to restart from menu or dock.

rarely does the system need to be restarted, but if so, there's a
restart menu item.

I meant restart the program -- not reboot the system. Apple does call
that "restart" though, so I can see where this was not clear.

actually they don't, but regardless, the only reason to relaunch a
program is if it crashed, and the crash dialog has a button to do
exactly that.

Apple Restart...

They do.

that reboots the computer.

it does not relaunch individual apps.

And there are times it is good to relaunch a program when it is being slow.

very, very rarely.




installed apps are in the applications folder, unless the user put it
somewhere else.

Of course it is in the Application menu... but what I am noting is many
new / non-techie users do not even really know what that means.

for that type of user, put the relevant apps in the dock for them, or

I do not tend to go to the house of strangers and put things on their
dock, but, sure, if I am working with them I do.

nobody said to go to random houses and reconfigure things.

better yet, get them an ipad.

I am not going to buy people iPads. Are you willing to buy me one?

the point is that if they're confused by an application folder, whether
it's mac or windows, then an ipad is a better choice.

On 9/1/19 12:58 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:


But, yes, sometimes it needs to be restarted or
whatever and novices might not know to restart from menu or dock.

rarely does the system need to be restarted, but if so, there's a
restart menu item.

I meant restart the program -- not reboot the system. Apple does call
that "restart" though, so I can see where this was not clear.

actually they don't, but regardless, the only reason to relaunch a
program is if it crashed, and the crash dialog has a button to do
exactly that.

Apple Restart...

They do.

that reboots the computer.

it does not relaunch individual apps.

Which is what I said. Sure. Glad we are on the same page now.

And there are times it is good to relaunch a program when it is being slow.

very, very rarely.

Certainly not the norm. Been seeing it with Keynote on my daughter's old
Mac mini. She also tends to use the program in ways it was not really
designed for.

installed apps are in the applications folder, unless the user put it
somewhere else.

Of course it is in the Application menu... but what I am noting is many
new / non-techie users do not even really know what that means.

for that type of user, put the relevant apps in the dock for them, or

I do not tend to go to the house of strangers and put things on their
dock, but, sure, if I am working with them I do.

nobody said to go to random houses and reconfigure things.

I am speaking of users in general (or non-techie ones) and you said I
should "put the relevant apps in the dock for them".

I assure you I am not going to do this. Really, at this point you have
no real point. You are arguing to argue and not even showing
understanding of what is being talked about.

better yet, get them an ipad.

I am not going to buy people iPads. Are you willing to buy me one?

the point is that if they're confused by an application folder, whether
it's mac or windows, then an ipad is a better choice.

Depending on what they want to do it might be. But many in that group
are older and prefer larger screens, or for other reasons want a "full"
computer. But the iPad is becoming a better and better choice. Sure.

But none of that changes the fact that adding apps on macOS can be
confusing to a fair number of users. Why not have a dock icon where the
last 3 or 5 new programs are shown? Mayne that a default and more
advanced users can turn it off.


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