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reg hack for windows start menu
In message , Bill in Co
writes: I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex. The digit "0" has a value of 30 hex or 48 decimal, and there are more than a dozen symbols with lower ASCII values. I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) [] In order: space ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / then 0. You can't use " * or / in filenames, and normally, you can't _start_ one with a space. (I too use ! at the beginning of names I want to appear first.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Knowledge isnt elitist - that's rubbish! Why are we embarrassed by the idea that people know things? It's not a conspiracy against the ignorant. Knowing things is good!" - Jeremy Paxman, RT 14-20 August 2010 |
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reg hack for windows start menu
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Bill in Co writes: I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex. The digit "0" has a value of 30 hex or 48 decimal, and there are more than a dozen symbols with lower ASCII values. I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) [] In order: space ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / then 0. You can't use " * or / in filenames, and normally, you can't _start_ one with a space. (I too use ! at the beginning of names I want to appear first.) Yeah, me too. And if you think that's a bit unusual, I create a lot of zero byte files with very long file names that are notes, instead of actually creating a real text file and saving the actual note inside it. That way I can see the "note" at a glance in the directory listings. I guess the only penalty I'm paying for that is the extra directory entry bytes required for the longish filename. I read that LFN entries are 32 bytes long, and each LFN directory entry has room for only 13 characters in the file's name. So if you're creating a 40 character note, that means 4*32 bytes are being used for the LFN directory listing, if I understand this correctly. Windows "Long File Name" Specification: http://www.fandecheng.com/personal/i...lp/lfnspec.htm |
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reg hack for windows start menu
Bill in Co,
I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex :-) "{", which I picked on purpose, has an ASCII value of 0x7B (above any of the alphanumeric ones) There are three groups above 0x30 containing non-alphanumeric symbols (0x3A/6, 0x5B/5 and 0x7B/5). Regardless of that *all* of those non-alphanumeric symbols are sorted below the "0" symbol ... I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) :-) Same here (mostly using "!", as that symbol is an attention-seeker by itself). But sometimes I have temporary files (output of of some program or another), which I would like to have stand-out, but way away from the (often more permanent) "attention seekers". Which is how I came to notice this unexpected sorting behaviour. Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex. The digit "0" has a value of 30 hex or 48 decimal, and there are more than a dozen symbols with lower ASCII values. I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, ... but since I was so used to the regular logical (ASCII) character sort order for files, it drove me nuts. Same here. Could not visually scan a folder (in XP) for a certain file anymore, as the sought-for one could pop up in unexpected locations. Drove me (sort of) mad. :-\ But even with that setting a folder seems to be sorted with all non-alphanumeric symbols infront of alphanumeric ones (try a filename starting with a "{" or "}" and you'll see what I mean). Regards, Rudy Wieser P.s. The other two registry entries are not bad either (understatement). :-) -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... Thanks again for the correction, and I hope it's not a problem for the other Bill that I added those in, as I found them useful. So Bill C, if you don't want the added stuff, hopefully you saved the original before adding this to the registry and can go back. Rudy - I think that change in sorting order came stock with XP and later, but since I was so used to the regular logical (ASCII) character sort order for files, it drove me nuts. But now I can't even remember what the disadvantage of not using logical character sort order was (the way it is now in Vista and above). Well I found one example using these file names: Picture Picture - Copy Picture - Copy 2 Picture - Copy 3 which apparently gets sorted "incorrectly" using the newer method in Windows 7 and later) as follows: Picture - Copy 2 Picture - Copy 3 Picture - Copy Picture "Windows 7 treats blank spaces in file names illogically in alphanumeric sorts." URL: http://tinyurl.com/ya5bc29e R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoStrCmpLogical"=dword:00000001 Please do notice that the above three have nothing to do with "recent documents". And I definitily like that last one. It resolved a long standing "what the heck?" about the sorting order of the files in a folder ... Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional mesage Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... Bill Cunningham wrote: "Bill in Co" wrote in message ... I'm coming into this thread a bit late, but if you are looking for a way to automatically clear the recent documents shortcuts list, here is the solution: Create a text file named "Clear Recent Docs.txt" (for example), and paste in the following (using a pure text editor like Notepad), and then rename it to "Clear Recent Docs.reg" and double click it to enter it into ther registry. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "ClearRecentDocsOnExit"=dword:00000001 I've been using this for quite awhile, as I got tired of seeing that recent documents list all the time. After rebooting, it automatically gets cleared. :-) Hum...Ok thanks Bill I entered the text into notepad and saved as "rdoc.reg" and notepad saved a regdit file. I loaded and rebooted twice those entries are still there. Everything I've open and it can sometimes be a long list. It is a pain to erase every one. Bill I noticed I had updated mine a bit and the complete one was as follows. If this doesn't do it, I don't know what else to suggest. Again,this is for cleaning out the recents document list (which I found to be annoying) for Windows XP. (As always, it's always a good idea to save the original one). Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoStrCmpLogical"=dword:00000001 "ClearRecentDocsOnExit"=dword:00000001 "MaxRecentDocs"=dword:00000008 |
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reg hack for windows start menu
In message , Bill in Co
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: [] (I too use ! at the beginning of names I want to appear first.) Yeah, me too. And if you think that's a bit unusual, I create a lot of zero byte files with very long file names that are notes, instead of actually creating a real text file and saving the actual note inside it. That way I can see the "note" at a glance in the directory listings. Me too. For the same reason. I guess the only penalty I'm paying for that is the extra directory entry bytes required for the longish filename. I read that LFN entries are 32 bytes long, and each LFN directory entry has room for only 13 characters in the file's name. So if you're creating a 40 character note, that means 4*32 bytes are being used for the LFN directory listing, if I understand this correctly. (Another penalty - of long names in general - is that the "columns" format [most often seen in my case in the "file open" and "file save" dialogue windows) has wide columns, so usually only one visible.) Compared to video, picture, sound, or even Word files, I don't think we need worry much about a few extra 128 bytes in directory files these days! Windows "Long File Name" Specification: http://www.fandecheng.com/personal/i...lp/lfnspec.htm -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "What happens if I press this button?" "I wouldn't ..." (pinggg!) "Oh!" "What happened?" "A sign lit up, saying `please do not press this button again'!"(s1f2) |
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reg hack for windows start menu
Bill in Co,
I read that LFN entries are 32 bytes long, and each LFN directory entry has room for only 13 characters in the file's name. LFN entries are actually just repurposed standard DOS 8.3 entries. IIRC the OS detects a standard or an LFN entry by the first character of the filename (the same way it detects "deleted" 8.3 entries). Also, that problem only exist for FAT drives, onder, for example, NTFS its just a single extra char (it uses another file-entry storage mechanism). Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Bill in Co writes: I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex. The digit "0" has a value of 30 hex or 48 decimal, and there are more than a dozen symbols with lower ASCII values. I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) [] In order: space ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / then 0. You can't use " * or / in filenames, and normally, you can't _start_ one with a space. (I too use ! at the beginning of names I want to appear first.) Yeah, me too. And if you think that's a bit unusual, I create a lot of zero byte files with very long file names that are notes, instead of actually creating a real text file and saving the actual note inside it. That way I can see the "note" at a glance in the directory listings. I guess the only penalty I'm paying for that is the extra directory entry bytes required for the longish filename. I read that LFN entries are 32 bytes long, and each LFN directory entry has room for only 13 characters in the file's name. So if you're creating a 40 character note, that means 4*32 bytes are being used for the LFN directory listing, if I understand this correctly. Windows "Long File Name" Specification: http://www.fandecheng.com/personal/i...lp/lfnspec.htm |
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reg hack for windows start menu
Rudy, I'm not familiar with that slash notation, like 0x3A/6 with the /6
there. So I know 3A hex is a colon in ASCII, but you're evidently talking about something else, I presume? R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex :-) "{", which I picked on purpose, has an ASCII value of 0x7B (above any of the alphanumeric ones) There are three groups above 0x30 containing non-alphanumeric symbols (0x3A/6, 0x5B/5 and 0x7B/5). Regardless of that *all* of those non-alphanumeric symbols are sorted below the "0" symbol ... I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) :-) Same here (mostly using "!", as that symbol is an attention-seeker by itself). But sometimes I have temporary files (output of of some program or another), which I would like to have stand-out, but way away from the (often more permanent) "attention seekers". Which is how I came to notice this unexpected sorting behaviour. Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex. The digit "0" has a value of 30 hex or 48 decimal, and there are more than a dozen symbols with lower ASCII values. I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, ... but since I was so used to the regular logical (ASCII) character sort order for files, it drove me nuts. Same here. Could not visually scan a folder (in XP) for a certain file anymore, as the sought-for one could pop up in unexpected locations. Drove me (sort of) mad. :-\ But even with that setting a folder seems to be sorted with all non-alphanumeric symbols infront of alphanumeric ones (try a filename starting with a "{" or "}" and you'll see what I mean). Regards, Rudy Wieser P.s. The other two registry entries are not bad either (understatement). :-) -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... Thanks again for the correction, and I hope it's not a problem for the other Bill that I added those in, as I found them useful. So Bill C, if you don't want the added stuff, hopefully you saved the original before adding this to the registry and can go back. Rudy - I think that change in sorting order came stock with XP and later, but since I was so used to the regular logical (ASCII) character sort order for files, it drove me nuts. But now I can't even remember what the disadvantage of not using logical character sort order was (the way it is now in Vista and above). Well I found one example using these file names: Picture Picture - Copy Picture - Copy 2 Picture - Copy 3 which apparently gets sorted "incorrectly" using the newer method in Windows 7 and later) as follows: Picture - Copy 2 Picture - Copy 3 Picture - Copy Picture "Windows 7 treats blank spaces in file names illogically in alphanumeric sorts." URL: http://tinyurl.com/ya5bc29e R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoStrCmpLogical"=dword:00000001 Please do notice that the above three have nothing to do with "recent documents". And I definitily like that last one. It resolved a long standing "what the heck?" about the sorting order of the files in a folder ... Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional mesage Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... Bill Cunningham wrote: "Bill in Co" wrote in message ... I'm coming into this thread a bit late, but if you are looking for a way to automatically clear the recent documents shortcuts list, here is the solution: Create a text file named "Clear Recent Docs.txt" (for example), and paste in the following (using a pure text editor like Notepad), and then rename it to "Clear Recent Docs.reg" and double click it to enter it into ther registry. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "ClearRecentDocsOnExit"=dword:00000001 I've been using this for quite awhile, as I got tired of seeing that recent documents list all the time. After rebooting, it automatically gets cleared. :-) Hum...Ok thanks Bill I entered the text into notepad and saved as "rdoc.reg" and notepad saved a regdit file. I loaded and rebooted twice those entries are still there. Everything I've open and it can sometimes be a long list. It is a pain to erase every one. Bill I noticed I had updated mine a bit and the complete one was as follows. If this doesn't do it, I don't know what else to suggest. Again,this is for cleaning out the recents document list (which I found to be annoying) for Windows XP. (As always, it's always a good idea to save the original one). Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoStrCmpLogical"=dword:00000001 "ClearRecentDocsOnExit"=dword:00000001 "MaxRecentDocs"=dword:00000008 |
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reg hack for windows start menu
Bill in Co,
Rudy, I'm not familiar with that slash notation My apologies. I used it to mark the number of symbols there. I should maybe have just used 0x3A ... 0x3F, but thought I could "cut a corner" (with the thought to be able to easily add the number of mis-sorted symbols together). :-| Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... Rudy, I'm not familiar with that slash notation, like 0x3A/6 with the /6 there. So I know 3A hex is a colon in ASCII, but you're evidently talking about something else, I presume? R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex :-) "{", which I picked on purpose, has an ASCII value of 0x7B (above any of the alphanumeric ones) There are three groups above 0x30 containing non-alphanumeric symbols (0x3A/6, 0x5B/5 and 0x7B/5). Regardless of that *all* of those non-alphanumeric symbols are sorted below the "0" symbol ... I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) :-) Same here (mostly using "!", as that symbol is an attention-seeker by itself). But sometimes I have temporary files (output of of some program or another), which I would like to have stand-out, but way away from the (often more permanent) "attention seekers". Which is how I came to notice this unexpected sorting behaviour. Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... I believe that's because several alphanumeric symbols have lower ASCII values than do the letters and numbers, which all start at 30 hex. The digit "0" has a value of 30 hex or 48 decimal, and there are more than a dozen symbols with lower ASCII values. I sometimes find this handy when I name files and want to "flag them" to show up first in the directory listings, to call my attention to them. :-) R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, ... but since I was so used to the regular logical (ASCII) character sort order for files, it drove me nuts. Same here. Could not visually scan a folder (in XP) for a certain file anymore, as the sought-for one could pop up in unexpected locations. Drove me (sort of) mad. :-\ But even with that setting a folder seems to be sorted with all non-alphanumeric symbols infront of alphanumeric ones (try a filename starting with a "{" or "}" and you'll see what I mean). Regards, Rudy Wieser P.s. The other two registry entries are not bad either (understatement). :-) -- Origional message: Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... Thanks again for the correction, and I hope it's not a problem for the other Bill that I added those in, as I found them useful. So Bill C, if you don't want the added stuff, hopefully you saved the original before adding this to the registry and can go back. Rudy - I think that change in sorting order came stock with XP and later, but since I was so used to the regular logical (ASCII) character sort order for files, it drove me nuts. But now I can't even remember what the disadvantage of not using logical character sort order was (the way it is now in Vista and above). Well I found one example using these file names: Picture Picture - Copy Picture - Copy 2 Picture - Copy 3 which apparently gets sorted "incorrectly" using the newer method in Windows 7 and later) as follows: Picture - Copy 2 Picture - Copy 3 Picture - Copy Picture "Windows 7 treats blank spaces in file names illogically in alphanumeric sorts." URL: http://tinyurl.com/ya5bc29e R.Wieser wrote: Bill in Co, "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoStrCmpLogical"=dword:00000001 Please do notice that the above three have nothing to do with "recent documents". And I definitily like that last one. It resolved a long standing "what the heck?" about the sorting order of the files in a folder ... Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional mesage Bill in Co schreef in berichtnieuws ... Bill Cunningham wrote: "Bill in Co" wrote in message ... I'm coming into this thread a bit late, but if you are looking for a way to automatically clear the recent documents shortcuts list, here is the solution: Create a text file named "Clear Recent Docs.txt" (for example), and paste in the following (using a pure text editor like Notepad), and then rename it to "Clear Recent Docs.reg" and double click it to enter it into ther registry. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "ClearRecentDocsOnExit"=dword:00000001 I've been using this for quite awhile, as I got tired of seeing that recent documents list all the time. After rebooting, it automatically gets cleared. :-) Hum...Ok thanks Bill I entered the text into notepad and saved as "rdoc.reg" and notepad saved a regdit file. I loaded and rebooted twice those entries are still there. Everything I've open and it can sometimes be a long list. It is a pain to erase every one. Bill I noticed I had updated mine a bit and the complete one was as follows. If this doesn't do it, I don't know what else to suggest. Again,this is for cleaning out the recents document list (which I found to be annoying) for Windows XP. (As always, it's always a good idea to save the original one). Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091 "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoStrCmpLogical"=dword:00000001 "ClearRecentDocsOnExit"=dword:00000001 "MaxRecentDocs"=dword:00000008 |
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