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Firefox problem?
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As
I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a list. I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the original XP version. Never used it as I recall. Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script? I'm using XP Home. TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Firefox problem?
KenK wrote:
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a list. I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the original XP version. Never used it as I recall. Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script? I'm using XP Home. TIA JS is built into the browser. Which FF? Is JS enabled? Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode? |
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Firefox problem?
KenK wrote:
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a list. So what add-ons did you install into Firefox? |
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Firefox problem?
Paul in Houston TX wrote in
news KenK wrote: Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a list. I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the original XP version. Never used it as I recall. Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script? I'm using XP Home. TIA JS is built into the browser. Which FF? 52.0 Is JS enabled? How? I don't see it in Options Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode? How? I don't see that in Options/Security -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Firefox problem?
KenK wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote in news KenK wrote: Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a list. I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the original XP version. Never used it as I recall. Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script? I'm using XP Home. TIA JS is built into the browser. Which FF? 52.0 Is JS enabled? How? I don't see it in Options Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode? How? I don't see that in Options/Security In the URL bar about:config Agree to accept the risk. In the search bar in that dialog: javascript You will see an item javascript.enable TRUE/FALSE I suspect that's a boolean that affects Javascript for the browser. Double-click to toggle. (Note - do *not* delete entries in that interface, as there is no undo. I did that once... OMG, what an adventure.) Now, what's unclear, is what the browser does when it needs to read prefs.js :-) So "Javascript off", doesn't mean for everything. Just the Internet facing side I would suspect. Paul |
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Firefox problem?
KenK wrote:
JS is built into the browser. Which FF? 52.0 Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser. -- Tim Slattery tim at risingdove dot com |
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Firefox problem?
Tim Slattery wrote:
KenK wrote: JS is built into the browser. Which FF? 52.0 Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser. Yeah but...I had read on Slashdot that Firefox was dropping support for Java. But I just got upgraded to version 52 on Vista, and I'm still able to do the Newsday and New York Times crosswords, which use Java Applets. So I don't know what's going on with the OP. -- Tim Slattery tim at risingdove dot com |
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Firefox problem?
Tim Slattery wrote:
Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser. Because the OP separated the words "Java" and "Script", it is unclear if he is complaining that Java applets no longer work or if Javascripted web pages no longer work. Java is not Javascript. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(...mming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript Java support wwithin a web browser is via a plug-in. Oracle has yet to get away from its NPAPI plug-in for Java (but note below where they tell developers to migrate to their Java Web Start platform). https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...ns-in-firefox/ Dated Oct 8, 2015. https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...on-in-firefox/ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269807 Means it won't work under Google Chrome (or other Chromium derivatives), either, since they deprecated NPAPI long before Mozilla. Chromium deprecated NPAPI awhile ago. https://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation This isn't news to Oracle. They've known for a long time (years) that NPAPI was going to get discontinued. See: https://www.java.com/en/download/help/firefox_java.xml The first hit was back in 2013 when Mozilla changed the default behavior of some plug-ins to block them from loading by default. That is, instead of defaulting to "Always activate", they changed "Ask to activate" (with the added "Never activate" option). See: https://news.slashdot.org/story/13/1...oing-down-well (The original linked-to page no longer exists.) Here's one still around: https://techcrunch.com/2013/09/23/say-goodbye-to-npapi/ Oracle knew back in 2013, if not before, that NPAPI was going away. Did they develop a web API replacement? No, they stuck their heads in the sand and ignored the change. Well, they didn't bother with an NPAPI plug-in replacement but rely on their users switching to Java Web Start. https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platfo..._a_plugin_free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start Oracle announced that plug-in support was deprecated in JDK 9 over a year ago and will be completely removed in a future version. https://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/0...rowser-plugin/ Back to the OP's issue, and assuming "Java Script" means Javascript and not Java, each web browser incorporates a Javascript engine but that doesn't mean Javascript is currently enabled. It is enabled, by default, at install time but users can disable it. However, users may employ add-ons that toggle Javascript because having to drill into about:config is a nuisance and obscure for the majority of users to go change the javascript.enabled setting. Visit one of the many sites that will test if Javascript is enabled or not in the web browser you use when visiting the test site. https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...script-enabled http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/ |
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VanguardLH wrote in :
http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/ Result is NO. Tried about:config and search does not find Javascript. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Paul wrote in news
KenK wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote in news KenK wrote: Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a list. I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the original XP version. Never used it as I recall. Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script? I'm using XP Home. TIA JS is built into the browser. Which FF? 52.0 Is JS enabled? How? I don't see it in Options Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode? How? I don't see that in Options/Security In the URL bar about:config Agree to accept the risk. In the search bar in that dialog: javascript Nope. Nothing shows up. Another in this conversation said to try http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/ Which says NO. You will see an item javascript.enable TRUE/FALSE I suspect that's a boolean that affects Javascript for the browser. Double-click to toggle. (Note - do *not* delete entries in that interface, as there is no undo. I did that once... OMG, what an adventure.) Now, what's unclear, is what the browser does when it needs to read prefs.js :-) So "Javascript off", doesn't mean for everything. Just the Internet facing side I would suspect. Paul -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Firefox problem?
Tim Slattery wrote:
Tim Slattery wrote: KenK wrote: JS is built into the browser. Which FF? 52.0 Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser. Yeah but...I had read on Slashdot that Firefox was dropping support for Java. But I just got upgraded to version 52 on Vista, and I'm still able to do the Newsday and New York Times crosswords, which use Java Applets. So I don't know what's going on with the OP. I'm not wasting my time to subscribe at the New York Times for what should be a publicly accessible crossword. So I cannot test what their current crossword actually uses for scripting. They had a link to an archived version saying that one was free. http://www.nytimes.com/crosswords/game/daily/2013/08/03 That one doesn't use Java. I don't even have to look at the page source to determine if Java was used or not. How do I know Java is not used there? Because I have not had the Java plug-in installed in any web browser for many years. I haven't needed it since 2008 when I left an employer that used Java applets, and anywhere else that I visited that demanded Java just had me go elsewhere for the same content without the Java plug-in requirement. I don't have the Java plug-in so how could that crossword page be working if it required Java? http://www.newsday.com/entertainment...zzle-1.6375288 That's a link to a PDF file. I don't read Newsday so I don't know where else to find the crossword. The above link was found through a Google search. I went to newsday.com and clicked on the Crossword link under the More section. That took me to the same page offering PDF downloads. Rather than hunt around for online crosswords that actually use Java or any other web page employing Java, you can test if the Java plug-in is working in your web browser by visiting: https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...java-installed https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp Note that I switched to the 64-bit version of Firefox a few months ago. That does not support the Java plug-in. Visting: https://www.java.com/en/download/ins...jsp?detect=jre has Oracle saying: We have detected you are using the 64-bit version of Firefox which will not run the Java plugin. Use the Java Control Panel to find the installed Java version. While Oracle has a 64-bit JRE, do they have a 64-bit NPAPI plug-in or is it still 32-bit (i.e., a 32-bit plug-in in a 64-bit JRE bundle)? |
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Firefox problem?
KenK wrote in news:XnsA7385E821E54Binvalidcom@
130.133.4.11: Here is the error message I got from one web site: "Your computer or network appears to be blocking scripts. Please unblock scripts from payments.volusion.com to complete your transaction." Comments? Suggestions? Another browser? If so, which one? Paul wrote in news KenK wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote in news KenK wrote: Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a list. I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the original XP version. Never used it as I recall. Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script? I'm using XP Home. TIA JS is built into the browser. Which FF? 52.0 Is JS enabled? How? I don't see it in Options Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode? How? I don't see that in Options/Security In the URL bar about:config Agree to accept the risk. In the search bar in that dialog: javascript Nope. Nothing shows up. Another in this conversation said to try http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/ Which says NO. You will see an item javascript.enable TRUE/FALSE I suspect that's a boolean that affects Javascript for the browser. Double-click to toggle. (Note - do *not* delete entries in that interface, as there is no undo. I did that once... OMG, what an adventure.) Now, what's unclear, is what the browser does when it needs to read prefs.js :-) So "Javascript off", doesn't mean for everything. Just the Internet facing side I would suspect. Paul -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Firefox problem?
KenK wrote:
VanguardLH: http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/ Result is NO. Tried about:config and search does not find Javascript. A search on "javascript" (and nothing else add, just "javascript" by itself) should have found around 44 settings. To find the relevant setting, search on "javascript.enabled" (obviously without the double quotes used here to delineate the search criteria) so you don't have to wade through all the other Javascript-related settings. Search on "javascript" (sans double quotes) in about:config: http://imgur.com/a/3FUoS (click on image to enlarge) Search on "javascript.enabled" (sans double quotes) in about:config: http://imgur.com/a/fj8rD Are you using the Search input field provided at the top of the about:config page or some other means of searching the list of settings? |
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Firefox problem?
In message , KenK
writes: KenK wrote in news:XnsA7385E821E54Binvalidcom@ 130.133.4.11: Here is the error message I got from one web site: "Your computer or network appears to be blocking scripts. Please unblock scripts from payments.volusion.com to complete your transaction." Comments? Suggestions? Ah. It would seem possible that you've added a no-script blocker to your browser, possibly years ago - either one that blocks all scripts, or blocks ones from a website other than the one you're addressing, or blocks ones from a given (possibly online) blacklist, or only allows ones from a given whitelist. If it's using the blacklist option, and the blacklist is periodically downloaded from an online source, it is possible that "payments.volusion.com" has just been added to the blacklist, either in error or because of something nefarious a script from that site has been observed to do. (And I think this would be java_script_ rather than just java.) Another browser? If so, which one? [] Your present one should allow the page to work if you turn off the script blocker (noscript is the commonest), or add the offending site to its whitelist/remove it from its blacklist. If you trust the website in question, of course; from the name, I assume it's something to do with handling payments. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. D McLeod |
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VanguardLH wrote in :
KenK wrote: VanguardLH: http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/ Result is NO. Tried about:config and search does not find Javascript. A search on "javascript" (and nothing else add, just "javascript" by itself) should have found around 44 settings. To find the relevant setting, search on "javascript.enabled" (obviously without the double quotes used here to delineate the search criteria) so you don't have to wade through all the other Javascript-related settings. Search on "javascript" (sans double quotes) in about:config: http://imgur.com/a/3FUoS (click on image to enlarge) Search on "javascript.enabled" (sans double quotes) in about:config: http://imgur.com/a/fj8rD Says javascript.enabled boolean true but web sites still say java script blocked by computer or network. I never had this problem until the past few days but I didn't change or install anything. Are you using the Search input field provided at the top of the about:config page yes or some other means of searching the list of settings? -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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