Firefox problem?

KenK wrote:
VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH:

http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/
Result is NO.

Tried about:config and search does not find Javascript.
A search on "javascript" (and nothing else add, just "javascript" by
itself) should have found around 44 settings. To find the relevant
setting, search on "javascript.enabled" (obviously without the double
quotes used here to delineate the search criteria) so you don't have to
wade through all the other Javascript-related settings.

Search on "javascript" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/3FUoS
(click on image to enlarge)

Search on "javascript.enabled" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/fj8rD

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

but web sites still say java script blocked by computer or network. I never
had this problem until the past few days but I didn't change or install
anything.

Are you using the Search input field provided at the top of the
about:config page

yes

or some other means of searching the list of settings?

Check for an add-on such as NoScript.

If that isn't it, Firefox has a "reset" procedure.

You want to export your bookmarks for safety, if returning Firefox to
factory conditions. In the Bookmark Manager, there is an
Export function you can use for that. That's so the bookmarks
are in a semi-readable format.

The purpose of doing the reset, would be to remove something
you haven't noticed is present. I don't think it actually needs
to be reset because of a corruption problem.

The www.isjavascriptenabled.com site returns two pieces of information.
It'll say "Yes" if JS is present. The item underneath that, seems
to be a character set or locale-type indicator. Only one of my browsers
indicated "UTF-8" for that field, while the other two browsers
said "undefined".

*******

Just about any other browser would support Javascript.

Exceptions might be Internet Explorer (ECMAscript) or MSEdge in Win10.
Most other browsers should be ready for Javascript.

*******

If you need another browser, try this one. It is Chromium based,
but perhaps not as "wired" to Google. I use this only for situations
where compatibility prevents my other browsers from working. So this
is a "fully functional" browser. On youtube.com/html5, all the
tick boxes are green.

http://www.srware.net/en/software_sr...n_download.php

To get Flash on that, you use a PPAPI plugin, rather than the
NPAPI package you've been using for Firefox. You shouldn't
need Flash though, to complete your current mission.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/

Select Operating system = 7/Vista/XP
Version = PPAPI [a.k.a Pepperflash for Chromium]
Note: in the middle pane, disable the "free offer"

The resulting download should be "flashplayer24pp_ha_install.exe".
That appears to be what I used at the time.

And I have that installed on WinXP.

Paul

KenK wrote:
VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH:

http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/

Result is NO.

Tried about:config and search does not find Javascript.

A search on "javascript" (and nothing else add, just "javascript" by
itself) should have found around 44 settings. To find the relevant
setting, search on "javascript.enabled" (obviously without the double
quotes used here to delineate the search criteria) so you don't have to
wade through all the other Javascript-related settings.

Search on "javascript" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/3FUoS
(click on image to enlarge)

Search on "javascript.enabled" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/fj8rD

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

but web sites still say java script blocked by computer or network. I never
had this problem until the past few days but I didn't change or install
anything.

Are you using the Search input field provided at the top of the
about:config page

yes

or some other means of searching the list of settings?

Try:
FF tool bar help restart FF with add-ons disabled.
If that fixes it then the problem is due to an add-on.
Restart FF then turn off add-ons one at a time or by 3's if you have a lot until you find
the offending one.
Also, delete ALL of your cookies.

In message , Paul in Houston TX
writes:
[]
Try:
FF tool bar help restart FF with add-ons disabled.
If that fixes it then the problem is due to an add-on.
Restart FF then turn off add-ons one at a time or by 3's if you have a
lot until you find the offending one.
Also, delete ALL of your cookies.


By threes is better than one at a time. But I always recommend a
_binary_ approach: turn off half of them, then half of what's left, and
so on - lets you home in in the least number of steps.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Bother," said the Borg, "we assimilated a Pooh."

KenK wrote:

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

As requested before, what add-ons (aka extensions) have you installed
into Firefox?

This time, in addition, disable any anti-virus, 3rd party software, or
other security software you have installed to make sure it is not
interferring or modifying your web traffic.

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul in Houston TX writes:
[]
Try:
FF tool bar help restart FF with add-ons disabled.
If that fixes it then the problem is due to an add-on.
Restart FF then turn off add-ons one at a time or by 3's if you have a lot until you
find the offending one.
Also, delete ALL of your cookies.


By threes is better than one at a time. But I always recommend a _binary_ approach: turn
off half of them, then half of what's left, and so on - lets you home in in the least
number of steps.

I forgot about that method!

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in news:it
:

In message , KenK
writes:
KenK wrote in news:XnsA7385E821E54Binvalidcom@
130.133.4.11:

Here is the error message I got from one web site:

"Your computer or network appears to be blocking scripts. Please
unblock
scripts from payments.volusion.com to complete your transaction."

Comments? Suggestions?

Ah. It would seem possible that you've added a no-script blocker to
your
browser, possibly years ago - either one that blocks all scripts, or
blocks ones from a website other than the one you're addressing, or
blocks ones from a given (possibly online) blacklist, or only allows
ones from a given whitelist. If it's using the blacklist option, and
the
blacklist is periodically downloaded from an online source, it is
possible that "payments.volusion.com" has just been added to the
blacklist, either in error or because of something nefarious a script
from that site has been observed to do.

(And I think this would be java_script_ rather than just java.)

Another browser? If so, which one?
[]
Your present one should allow the page to work if you turn off the
script blocker (noscript is the commonest), or add the offending site
to
its whitelist/remove it from its blacklist. If you trust the website in
question, of course; from the name, I assume it's something to do with
handling payments.


Yep. It has no-script. Looks like I can click on its icon and temporarily
disable it. Will try that next time I have a script problem.

--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

As requested before, what add-ons (aka extensions) have you installed
into Firefox?

I install SownThemAll and Kaspersky. But when looking at the add-ons list
it appears Firefix installed no-script without asking. From what I've
been reading here that's my problem. Firefox also installed Status-4-
Evar.

This time, in addition, disable any anti-virus, 3rd party software, or
other security software you have installed to make sure it is not
interferring or modifying your web traffic.




--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

As requested before, what add-ons (aka extensions) have you installed
into Firefox?

I install SownThemAll and Kaspersky. But when looking at the add-ons list
it appears Firefix installed no-script without asking. From what I've
been reading here that's my problem. Firefox also installed Status-4-
Evar.

Firefox didn't install any of that. It completed the installations that
you initiated. Add-ons (extensions) and plug-ins get installed by the
user - whichever user that may be. Do you leave your computer unlocked
when you are away from it? Are there others in your household? Do you
not use a password to secure your Windows account? Who has physical
access to your computer? Users install add-ons and plug-ins, not
Firefox.

If NoScript is installed then it will, by default, block scripts from
EVERYWHERE. You can configure it to allow 1st party scripts (i.e.,
those from the site that you choose to visit); however, many sites use
more than one domain so scripts they get from an off-domain (not the one
you visited) will also get blocked. You have to train NoScript as to
which scripts to allow and from where. That requires a lot of training
(by the program to update its lists and by you to know how to use it).
If you don't know how to use NoScript then there is no point in leaving
it installed.

I tried NoScript but its default behavior when you allow script source
is that it will allow that script source for all sites that you visit.
Lots of scripts are hosted at CDNs (Content Delivery Networks) which
means they have scripts from a huge number of sites. Allowing scripts
from that source means allowing scripts from every site utilizing that
CDN service. You have to dig into NoScript's settings and modify the
Allow rule to to restrict grant permission for the off-domain script to
just the site you visit. That means having to learn their syntax on how
to define rules. uMatrix, by default, when told to allow a script
source, will allow it only for the site you visited when you allowed
that off-domain script. uMatrix, by default, is more focused than
NoScript; however, it is just as easy to define a global Allow rule
using its matrix list (how you click on the matrix for a source decides
whether it is a site-local or global filter).

Both NoScript and uMatrix take learning time to figure out how to use
them. They don't automagically install by themselves at the whim of
Firefox. Users install add-ons.

Kaspersky needs to install an add-on or plug-in into Firefox? Maybe
they interrogate your web traffic but an add-on is not required to do
that. I use Avast and have used Avira (without its adware toolbar) and
BitDefender (the free version of each) and none of them installed an
add-on or plug-in - and I have Avast interrogating both my HTTP and
HTTPS web traffic.

I don't know what is the SownThemAll add-on. Sown is something about
sowing seeds (past tense of sow: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sown).
Didn't find a ShowThemAll add-on. Did find a DownThemAll add-on which
is a download manager and accelerator (so it claims). I used one of
those many many years ago when I had a much slower Internet connection
(i.e., dial-up). Haven't needed one since I've been on an always-on
cable connection. http://www.downthemall.net/ says that add-on will die
when Mozilla moves from its old XUL scheme of coding extensions to using
the newer webextensions API (extremely similar to what Google uses in
their Chrome web browser). So it's going to be a dead extension unless
you continue using an old pre-webextension version of Firefox. For the
author's article, see:

http://www.downthemall.net/re-downth...-with-mozilla/

There have been 1.3M downloads of the extension (that only means how
many have downloaded it, not how many are currently using it).
Apparently it is too big a task to convert his extension to the new
webextension API so it's going to get discontinued.

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in
:

KenK wrote:

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

As requested before, what add-ons (aka extensions) have you
installed into Firefox?

I install SownThemAll and Kaspersky. But when looking at the add-ons
list it appears Firefix installed no-script without asking. From what
I've been reading here that's my problem. Firefox also installed
Status-4- Evar.

Firefox didn't install any of that. It completed the installations
that you initiated. Add-ons (extensions) and plug-ins get installed
by the user - whichever user that may be. Do you leave your computer
unlocked when you are away from it? Are there others in your
household? Do you not use a password to secure your Windows account?
Who has physical access to your computer? Users install add-ons and
plug-ins, not Firefox.

I'm the only user. I don't recall installing noscropt or Statys-4-aver,
whatever that is.

If NoScript is installed then it will, by default, block scripts from
EVERYWHERE. You can configure it to allow 1st party scripts (i.e.,
those from the site that you choose to visit); however, many sites use
more than one domain so scripts they get from an off-domain (not the
one you visited) will also get blocked. You have to train NoScript as
to which scripts to allow and from where. That requires a lot of
training (by the program to update its lists and by you to know how to
use it). If you don't know how to use NoScript then there is no point
in leaving it installed.

I tried NoScript but its default behavior when you allow script source
is that it will allow that script source for all sites that you visit.
Lots of scripts are hosted at CDNs (Content Delivery Networks) which
means they have scripts from a huge number of sites. Allowing scripts
from that source means allowing scripts from every site utilizing that
CDN service. You have to dig into NoScript's settings and modify the
Allow rule to to restrict grant permission for the off-domain script
to just the site you visit. That means having to learn their syntax
on how to define rules. uMatrix, by default, when told to allow a
script source, will allow it only for the site you visited when you
allowed that off-domain script. uMatrix, by default, is more focused
than NoScript; however, it is just as easy to define a global Allow
rule using its matrix list (how you click on the matrix for a source
decides whether it is a site-local or global filter).

Both NoScript and uMatrix take learning time to figure out how to use
them. They don't automagically install by themselves at the whim of
Firefox. Users install add-ons.

I'll probably set Noscript to 'Disable' on Add-ons Manager list.

Kaspersky needs to install an add-on or plug-in into Firefox? Maybe
they interrogate your web traffic but an add-on is not required to do
that. I use Avast and have used Avira (without its adware toolbar)
and BitDefender (the free version of each) and none of them installed
an add-on or plug-in - and I have Avast interrogating both my HTTP and
HTTPS web traffic.

I don't know what is the SownThemAll add-on.

My typo. Should be DownThemAll. I like it for DLing stuff.

Sown is something about
sowing seeds (past tense of sow:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sown). Didn't find a ShowThemAll
add-on. Did find a DownThemAll add-on which is a download manager and
accelerator (so it claims). I used one of those many many years ago
when I had a much slower Internet connection (i.e., dial-up). Haven't
needed one since I've been on an always-on cable connection.
http://www.downthemall.net/ says that add-on will die when Mozilla
moves from its old XUL scheme of coding extensions to using the newer
webextensions API (extremely similar to what Google uses in their
Chrome web browser). So it's going to be a dead extension unless you
continue using an old pre-webextension version of Firefox. For the
author's article, see:

http://www.downthemall.net/re-downth...ns-or-why-why-
i-am-done-with-mozilla/

There have been 1.3M downloads of the extension (that only means how
many have downloaded it, not how many are currently using it).
Apparently it is too big a task to convert his extension to the new
webextension API so it's going to get discontinued.




--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

KenK wrote in
:

Yep. It has no-script. Looks like I can click on its icon and
temporarily disable it. Will try that next time I have a script
problem.



I found that if I disable it I can leave its other protection on and just
disable the script blocking so I am trying that.


--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

In message , KenK
writes:
VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in
:

KenK wrote:

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

As requested before, what add-ons (aka extensions) have you
installed into Firefox?

I install SownThemAll and Kaspersky. But when looking at the add-ons
list it appears Firefix installed no-script without asking. From what
I've been reading here that's my problem. Firefox also installed
Status-4- Evar.

Firefox didn't install any of that. It completed the installations
that you initiated. Add-ons (extensions) and plug-ins get installed
by the user - whichever user that may be. Do you leave your computer

When you "installed" Firefox, were you by any chance upgrading it? On
the whole, when upgrading, it leaves any plugins that were installed and
enabled in the previous version installed and enabled, unless it thinks
they won't work with the new version (in which case I think it leaves
them installed, but disables them. I've also seen - I'm not sure under
what circumstances - it say something like "these plugins may not be
compatible with the new version - shall I go to see if I can find
upgrades for them?").

unlocked when you are away from it? Are there others in your
household? Do you not use a password to secure your Windows account?
Who has physical access to your computer? Users install add-ons and
plug-ins, not Firefox.

I'm the only user. I don't recall installing noscropt or Statys-4-aver,
whatever that is.

Status-4-ever keeps the status bar, i. e. the bar across the bottom of
the Firefox window (which can be configured much as other toolbars, but
by default shows what Firefox is doing - connecting to..., waiting
for..., etcetera, and IMO the most useful Done). The status bar was
removed (without that plugin) at some version of Firefox before 25
(possibly well before).
[]
I don't know what is the SownThemAll add-on.

My typo. Should be DownThemAll. I like it for DLing stuff.
[]
Apparently it is too big a task to convert his extension to the new
webextension API so it's going to get discontinued.

)-: Seems to be not uncommon. [For downloading - but it may be only for
videos, I'm not sure - I find DownloadHelper works well.]



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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Bother," said Pooh, as he fell off the bridge with his stick.

Paul wrote in news
If you need another browser, try this one. It is Chromium based,
but perhaps not as "wired" to Google. I use this only for situations
where compatibility prevents my other browsers from working. So this
is a "fully functional" browser. On youtube.com/html5, all the
tick boxes are green.

http://www.srware.net/en/software_sr...n_download.php

OK. At long last I DLed this browser and installed it. I'd earlier tried
Oprah but it wouldn't install after I DLed it. The EXE file wouldn't do
anything.

Anyhow, now I'm looking for a user's guide or a manual for iron browser.
Tried Google with both terms but after four lists with no manual mentioned
I gave up. Suggestions? I haven't had time to experiment with it but the
first screen was overwhelmingly busy! Maybe it's easier than I think after
I get a chance to experiment with it for a bit?

I tried to speed up Firefox with no success. Maybe it's not FF but my DSL
connection. My newsreader works fine though. If I can start using Iron
Browser I'll soon fond out.

This is on XP.

To get Flash on that, you use a PPAPI plugin, rather than the
NPAPI package you've been using for Firefox. You shouldn't
need Flash though, to complete your current mission.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/

Select Operating system = 7/Vista/XP
Version = PPAPI [a.k.a Pepperflash for Chromium]
Note: in the middle pane, disable the "free offer"

The resulting download should be "flashplayer24pp_ha_install.exe".
That appears to be what I used at the time.

And I have that installed on WinXP.




--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

On 6/7/2017 10:35 AM, KenK wrote:
Paul wrote in news
If you need another browser, try this one. It is Chromium based,
but perhaps not as "wired" to Google. I use this only for situations
where compatibility prevents my other browsers from working. So this
is a "fully functional" browser. On youtube.com/html5, all the
tick boxes are green.

http://www.srware.net/en/software_sr...n_download.php

OK. At long last I DLed this browser and installed it. I'd earlier tried
Oprah but it wouldn't install after I DLed it. The EXE file wouldn't do
anything.

Anyhow, now I'm looking for a user's guide or a manual for iron browser.
Tried Google with both terms but after four lists with no manual mentioned
I gave up. Suggestions? I haven't had time to experiment with it but the
first screen was overwhelmingly busy! Maybe it's easier than I think after
I get a chance to experiment with it for a bit?

I tried to speed up Firefox with no success. Maybe it's not FF but my DSL
connection. My newsreader works fine though. If I can start using Iron
Browser I'll soon fond out.

Might be interesting to take a look at your DNS servers.
Sometimes the default provided by your ISP is not the fastest one.
There are sites that suggest the best DNS server for your situation.

This is on XP.

To get Flash on that, you use a PPAPI plugin, rather than the
NPAPI package you've been using for Firefox. You shouldn't
need Flash though, to complete your current mission.

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/

Select Operating system = 7/Vista/XP
Version = PPAPI [a.k.a Pepperflash for Chromium]
Note: in the middle pane, disable the "free offer"

The resulting download should be "flashplayer24pp_ha_install.exe".
That appears to be what I used at the time.

And I have that installed on WinXP.