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I have a Dell XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1, with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast , Windows Defender and Windows firewall. (1) TB HD Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz Ram 12.0 GB System type : 64-bit operating system I also have I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Tower, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1, with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast , Windows Defender and Windows firewall. Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" System type : 64-bit operating system and (external hard drives) (8500) WD BLACK SERIES WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (780) Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive My question is this: recently on Fox news I've noticed closed caption printing on the screen of what people are saying even though when I checked my settings it shows that it's turned off. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks, Robert |
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My question is this: recently on Fox news I've noticed closed caption printing on the screen of what people are saying even though when I checked my settings it shows that it's turned off. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks, Robert I can see what you're referring to. I use a Chrome-alike browser (SRWare Iron) to play videos, as the other browsers are less likely to enable the plugin for them. First I used the controls in the player wrapper ("Akamai Player") to enable Closed Captioning. https://i.postimg.cc/SRz7pWNx/subtitles.gif However, with the setting returned to the Off position, depending on whether the "controls" make an appearance or not on the screen, I can still see closed captions off to the side of the screen (lower-left corner of video player). In Chrome, it appears the DOM storage is files like this. C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Local Settings\Application Data\ Chromium\User Data\Default\Local Storage 01/29/2020 0 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 196,608 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 28,672 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 13,312 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage Each localstorage file is in "sqlite3" format. I can dump them to text with sqlite3.exe some.localstorage .dump and get some text. But the UTF8 information in the file is stored as a binary blob with hex, requiring the writing of a translation script. Not that this is important of course :-) The workaround for my Chrome-alike browser, was to shut down the browser, make sure it wasn't running in Task Manager, and move those files out of the "Local Storage" folder, so that the browser needs to start new files when it visits foxnews.com again. When I did that, the default of "No Captions" seemed to apply and everything was fine again. ******* So now the question is, where is the storage for that in Firefox ? I had trouble with my Windows 10 virtual machine (too much blinkin and flashing and fapping about). I suspect the area needing surgery is similar to this. But, I'm running out of patience with this crap, so you'll have to play with it yourself. I spent more than *an hour* on this, even made a lunch for myself, in the hopes it would settle down, but I eventually had to just kill the VM and move on. F:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\ Profiles\wxxxyyyz.default-1234512345987\storage\default https+++www.youtube.com\ directory and all... On another setup, and older software, I was able to delete everything with +++ in it, but that's not a good idea in this case. You'd spot the "+++" items with foxnews in the name of the directory and delete those to erase the settings it's keeping. Paul |
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 2:17:23 AM UTC-8, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: My question is this: recently on Fox news I've noticed closed caption printing on the screen of what people are saying even though when I checked my settings it shows that it's turned off. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks, Robert I can see what you're referring to. I use a Chrome-alike browser (SRWare Iron) to play videos, as the other browsers are less likely to enable the plugin for them. First I used the controls in the player wrapper ("Akamai Player") to enable Closed Captioning. https://i.postimg.cc/SRz7pWNx/subtitles.gif However, with the setting returned to the Off position, depending on whether the "controls" make an appearance or not on the screen, I can still see closed captions off to the side of the screen (lower-left corner of video player). In Chrome, it appears the DOM storage is files like this. C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Local Settings\Application Data\ Chromium\User Data\Default\Local Storage 01/29/2020 0 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 196,608 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 28,672 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 13,312 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage Each localstorage file is in "sqlite3" format. I can dump them to text with sqlite3.exe some.localstorage .dump and get some text. But the UTF8 information in the file is stored as a binary blob with hex, requiring the writing of a translation script. Not that this is important of course :-) The workaround for my Chrome-alike browser, was to shut down the browser, make sure it wasn't running in Task Manager, and move those files out of the "Local Storage" folder, so that the browser needs to start new files when it visits foxnews.com again. When I did that, the default of "No Captions" seemed to apply and everything was fine again. ******* So now the question is, where is the storage for that in Firefox ? I had trouble with my Windows 10 virtual machine (too much blinkin and flashing and fapping about). I suspect the area needing surgery is similar to this. But, I'm running out of patience with this crap, so you'll have to play with it yourself. I spent more than *an hour* on this, even made a lunch for myself, in the hopes it would settle down, but I eventually had to just kill the VM and move on. F:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\ Profiles\wxxxyyyz.default-1234512345987\storage\default https+++www.youtube.com\ directory and all... On another setup, and older software, I was able to delete everything with +++ in it, but that's not a good idea in this case. You'd spot the "+++" items with foxnews in the name of the directory and delete those to erase the settings it's keeping. Paul The weird thing is that this just started yesterday before that everything was fine. I've already tried to remove it but was unsecessful which is why I posted the problem but if you can't resolve it then it's best I leave well enough alone and live with it. Thanks, Robert |
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 2:17:23 AM UTC-8, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: My question is this: recently on Fox news I've noticed closed caption printing on the screen of what people are saying even though when I checked my settings it shows that it's turned off. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks, Robert I can see what you're referring to. I use a Chrome-alike browser (SRWare Iron) to play videos, as the other browsers are less likely to enable the plugin for them. First I used the controls in the player wrapper ("Akamai Player") to enable Closed Captioning. https://i.postimg.cc/SRz7pWNx/subtitles.gif However, with the setting returned to the Off position, depending on whether the "controls" make an appearance or not on the screen, I can still see closed captions off to the side of the screen (lower-left corner of video player). In Chrome, it appears the DOM storage is files like this. C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Local Settings\Application Data\ Chromium\User Data\Default\Local Storage 01/29/2020 0 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 196,608 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 28,672 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 13,312 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage Each localstorage file is in "sqlite3" format. I can dump them to text with sqlite3.exe some.localstorage .dump and get some text. But the UTF8 information in the file is stored as a binary blob with hex, requiring the writing of a translation script. Not that this is important of course :-) The workaround for my Chrome-alike browser, was to shut down the browser, make sure it wasn't running in Task Manager, and move those files out of the "Local Storage" folder, so that the browser needs to start new files when it visits foxnews.com again. When I did that, the default of "No Captions" seemed to apply and everything was fine again. ******* So now the question is, where is the storage for that in Firefox ? I had trouble with my Windows 10 virtual machine (too much blinkin and flashing and fapping about). I suspect the area needing surgery is similar to this. But, I'm running out of patience with this crap, so you'll have to play with it yourself. I spent more than *an hour* on this, even made a lunch for myself, in the hopes it would settle down, but I eventually had to just kill the VM and move on. F:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\ Profiles\wxxxyyyz.default-1234512345987\storage\default https+++www.youtube.com\ directory and all... On another setup, and older software, I was able to delete everything with +++ in it, but that's not a good idea in this case. You'd spot the "+++" items with foxnews in the name of the directory and delete those to erase the settings it's keeping. Paul Here's a screenshot of my settings which shows I have it set to off but it still visible. https://postimg.cc/CZq3bGH6 Robert |
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 2:17:23 AM UTC-8, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: My question is this: recently on Fox news I've noticed closed caption printing on the screen of what people are saying even though when I checked my settings it shows that it's turned off. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks, Robert I can see what you're referring to. I use a Chrome-alike browser (SRWare Iron) to play videos, as the other browsers are less likely to enable the plugin for them. First I used the controls in the player wrapper ("Akamai Player") to enable Closed Captioning. https://i.postimg.cc/SRz7pWNx/subtitles.gif However, with the setting returned to the Off position, depending on whether the "controls" make an appearance or not on the screen, I can still see closed captions off to the side of the screen (lower-left corner of video player). In Chrome, it appears the DOM storage is files like this. C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Local Settings\Application Data\ Chromium\User Data\Default\Local Storage 01/29/2020 0 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 196,608 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 28,672 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 13,312 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage Each localstorage file is in "sqlite3" format. I can dump them to text with sqlite3.exe some.localstorage .dump and get some text. But the UTF8 information in the file is stored as a binary blob with hex, requiring the writing of a translation script. Not that this is important of course :-) The workaround for my Chrome-alike browser, was to shut down the browser, make sure it wasn't running in Task Manager, and move those files out of the "Local Storage" folder, so that the browser needs to start new files when it visits foxnews.com again. When I did that, the default of "No Captions" seemed to apply and everything was fine again. ******* So now the question is, where is the storage for that in Firefox ? I had trouble with my Windows 10 virtual machine (too much blinkin and flashing and fapping about). I suspect the area needing surgery is similar to this. But, I'm running out of patience with this crap, so you'll have to play with it yourself. I spent more than *an hour* on this, even made a lunch for myself, in the hopes it would settle down, but I eventually had to just kill the VM and move on. F:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\ Profiles\wxxxyyyz.default-1234512345987\storage\default https+++www.youtube.com\ directory and all... On another setup, and older software, I was able to delete everything with +++ in it, but that's not a good idea in this case. You'd spot the "+++" items with foxnews in the name of the directory and delete those to erase the settings it's keeping. Paul Here's a screenshot of my settings which shows I have it set to off but it still visible. https://postimg.cc/CZq3bGH6 Robert If you're using Firefox, see if you can spot some directories with +++ in the directory name. You would be looking for a couple with "+++" and "foxnews" as components of the name. I think the setting is in there. I believe that's DOM storage on Firefox. It's the "new cookie" as it were, a bucket for websites to abuse. Paul |
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-8, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 2:17:23 AM UTC-8, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: My question is this: recently on Fox news I've noticed closed caption printing on the screen of what people are saying even though when I checked my settings it shows that it's turned off. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks, Robert I can see what you're referring to. I use a Chrome-alike browser (SRWare Iron) to play videos, as the other browsers are less likely to enable the plugin for them. First I used the controls in the player wrapper ("Akamai Player") to enable Closed Captioning. https://i.postimg.cc/SRz7pWNx/subtitles.gif However, with the setting returned to the Off position, depending on whether the "controls" make an appearance or not on the screen, I can still see closed captions off to the side of the screen (lower-left corner of video player). In Chrome, it appears the DOM storage is files like this. C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Local Settings\Application Data\ Chromium\User Data\Default\Local Storage 01/29/2020 0 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 196,608 https_www.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 28,672 https_video.foxnews.com_0.localstorage 01/29/2020 0 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage-journal 01/29/2020 13,312 https_static.foxnews.com_0.localstorage Each localstorage file is in "sqlite3" format. I can dump them to text with sqlite3.exe some.localstorage .dump and get some text. But the UTF8 information in the file is stored as a binary blob with hex, requiring the writing of a translation script. Not that this is important of course :-) The workaround for my Chrome-alike browser, was to shut down the browser, make sure it wasn't running in Task Manager, and move those files out of the "Local Storage" folder, so that the browser needs to start new files when it visits foxnews.com again. When I did that, the default of "No Captions" seemed to apply and everything was fine again. ******* So now the question is, where is the storage for that in Firefox ? I had trouble with my Windows 10 virtual machine (too much blinkin and flashing and fapping about). I suspect the area needing surgery is similar to this. But, I'm running out of patience with this crap, so you'll have to play with it yourself. I spent more than *an hour* on this, even made a lunch for myself, in the hopes it would settle down, but I eventually had to just kill the VM and move on. F:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\ Profiles\wxxxyyyz.default-1234512345987\storage\default https+++www.youtube.com\ directory and all... On another setup, and older software, I was able to delete everything with +++ in it, but that's not a good idea in this case. You'd spot the "+++" items with foxnews in the name of the directory and delete those to erase the settings it's keeping. Paul Here's a screenshot of my settings which shows I have it set to off but it still visible. https://postimg.cc/CZq3bGH6 Robert If you're using Firefox, see if you can spot some directories with +++ in the directory name. You would be looking for a couple with "+++" and "foxnews" as components of the name. I think the setting is in there. I believe that's DOM storage on Firefox. It's the "new cookie" as it were, a bucket for websites to abuse. Paul That's a little bit beyond me. I guess I'll just have to live with it but why have a setting/feature that doesn't work when you set it to off? Robert |
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I tried using Agent Ransack with foxnews as the file name and +++ as containing text but it found nothing. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong? Robert |
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Robert in CA writes: I tried using Agent Ransack with foxnews as the file name and +++ as containing text but it found nothing. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong? Robert Just try searching (Everything will do it a lot quicker and simpler) for files/folders with +++ _in their name_. I have 334 of them - about a third are _files_ in my recycle bin, the rest _folders_ - for example C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefo x\Profiles\profile.de fault\storage\persistent\https+++www.ancestry.com (that one from 2018). The "+++" replaces "://". -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Q. How much is 2 + 2? A. Thank you so much for asking your question. Are you still having this problem? I'll be delighted to help you. Please restate the problem twice and include your Windows version along with all error logs. - Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-1 |
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I scanned as you suggested and it came back with page after page after page and it was only 1/4 completed when I stopped it because I have no idea what I'm looking for and even if I did I wouldn't know what to do to resolve the problem. https://postimg.cc/hQRMjG5H Thanks, Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I scanned as you suggested and it came back with page after page after page and it was only 1/4 completed when I stopped it because I have no idea what I'm looking for and even if I did I wouldn't know what to do to resolve the problem. https://postimg.cc/hQRMjG5H Thanks, Robert You put the search term in the wrong box. We're looking for directories with "+++" in the name. Which goes in the upper box. The middle box is if you wanted to search every text file contents for +++ in sentences or something. Generally, when I do filename/directory name searches for "+++", only browser DOM storage shows up. Then, you want to find just the items with "foxnews" in the name as well. Deleting the folders with "+++" as well as "foxnews" in the same directory name, should reset that preference so it stops doing that. Paul |
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I was expecting to find video.foxnews.com as well as just www.foxnews.com. Whatever wraps the video (the Akamai viewer), needs DOM storage somewhere. I went back and checked again looking for video.foxnews and there was another entry for Fox or it's the same one that came back somehow as if it's in a loop and returns after booting? https://postimg.cc/dkmfxpy1 I deleted it but with the same results and I did not find a video.foxnews. I guess I just have to live with it. Thanks, Robert |
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I was expecting to find video.foxnews.com as well as just www.foxnews.com. Whatever wraps the video (the Akamai viewer), needs DOM storage somewhere. I went back and checked again looking for video.foxnews and there was another entry for Fox or it's the same one that came back somehow as if it's in a loop and returns after booting? https://postimg.cc/dkmfxpy1 I deleted it but with the same results and I did not find a video.foxnews. I guess I just have to live with it. Thanks, Robert There are other methods, but they wouldn't be as much fun. You could use sysinternals.com ProcMon, start collecting a trace and see what file is accessed by the browser, when you turn the Closed Caption in the player ON and OFF. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...nloads/procmon The problem with that, is ProcMon collects a large amount of data. You can stop data collection by unticking the tickmark under the File menu item when you're finished and you think the "turning ON and OFF" has been captured. But then you have to decide what event filter makes the "most efficient" result from the trace, such as WriteFile perhaps. Then, collect up all the resulting stuff, save as .CSV (comma separated variable for spreadsheets), then use some other tools to find references to foxnews. Only occasionally when I go on a mission like that, am I successful in isolating just the element I want. I found a registry error once by going through around 100,000 entries :-/ Not something I particularly want to repeat. Pluses: The answer might be in there Minuses: Needle in a haystack And I'm only recommending this, if your browser seems to be doing something different than mine. Which is possible, as we could be using different browser versions and they may have mucked about with stuff. Also, there's no reason the foxnews webpage served to me, has to be identical to the one served to you. I know that once they geolocate me to Canada, they salt the web page with some "sucker" Canadian articles. Like maybe my Prime Minister making a fool of himself. The pages aren't likely to be identical in that sense. I don't see a reason for them to be using Akamai player in Canada and BrightCove in the USA, but there is always the possibility you're seeing different things than I am. In which case, ProcMon analysis is the "last option" for narrowing down the troublemaker file. Paul |
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On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 12:09:52 AM UTC-8, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: I was expecting to find video.foxnews.com as well as just www.foxnews.com. Whatever wraps the video (the Akamai viewer), needs DOM storage somewhere. I went back and checked again looking for video.foxnews and there was another entry for Fox or it's the same one that came back somehow as if it's in a loop and returns after booting? https://postimg.cc/dkmfxpy1 I deleted it but with the same results and I did not find a video.foxnews. I guess I just have to live with it. Thanks, Robert There are other methods, but they wouldn't be as much fun. You could use sysinternals.com ProcMon, start collecting a trace and see what file is accessed by the browser, when you turn the Closed Caption in the player ON and OFF. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...nloads/procmon The problem with that, is ProcMon collects a large amount of data. You can stop data collection by unticking the tickmark under the File menu item when you're finished and you think the "turning ON and OFF" has been captured. But then you have to decide what event filter makes the "most efficient" result from the trace, such as WriteFile perhaps. Then, collect up all the resulting stuff, save as .CSV (comma separated variable for spreadsheets), then use some other tools to find references to foxnews. Only occasionally when I go on a mission like that, am I successful in isolating just the element I want. I found a registry error once by going through around 100,000 entries :-/ Not something I particularly want to repeat. Pluses: The answer might be in there Minuses: Needle in a haystack And I'm only recommending this, if your browser seems to be doing something different than mine. Which is possible, as we could be using different browser versions and they may have mucked about with stuff. Also, there's no reason the foxnews webpage served to me, has to be identical to the one served to you. I know that once they geolocate me to Canada, they salt the web page with some "sucker" Canadian articles. Like maybe my Prime Minister making a fool of himself. The pages aren't likely to be identical in that sense. I don't see a reason for them to be using Akamai player in Canada and BrightCove in the USA, but there is always the possibility you're seeing different things than I am. In which case, ProcMon analysis is the "last option" for narrowing down the troublemaker file. Paul As I said, I'll just have to live with it. I'm not interested in looking for a needle in a haystack. Thanks, Robert |
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