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Old February 28th 20, 03:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
MeOhMy
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

Purchased a week ago.

Been on phone with HP for hours to get this printer working on my home
network. About ready to ship it back as defective.

I won't go into the problems I have with it because it is not relevant
to my current needs.

I need to have this print from a WiFi connected Laptop running Win XP
Pro. I have another B/W printer (Samsung) WiFi connected just fine.

Samsung printers are absorbed by HP so no more Samsung printers.

Seems no specific driver available for HP 9010 Pro on Win XP Pro 32bit.

Google says use a universal HP driver can be used but I cannot find one
for Win XP Pro 32bit.

HP tech says he fixed the printers IP address to 192.168.1.159

Suggestions please.


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Old February 28th 20, 05:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ed Cryer
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

MeOhMy wrote:
Purchased a week ago.

Been on phone with HP for hours to get this printer working on my home
network.Â* About ready to ship it back as defective.

I won't go into the problems I have with it because it is not relevant
to my current needs.

I need to have this print from a WiFi connected Laptop running Win XP
Pro.Â* I have another B/W printer (Samsung) WiFi connected just fine.

Samsung printers are absorbed by HP so no more Samsung printers.

Seems no specific driver available for HP 9010 Pro on Win XP Pro 32bit.

Google says use a universal HP driver can be used but I cannot find one
for Win XP Pro 32bit.

HP tech says he fixed the printers IP address to 192.168.1.159

Suggestions please.



https://support.hp.com/gb-en/product...eries/23903057

Try the troubleshooting programs on the official HP website, above.

Ed

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Old February 28th 20, 06:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
MeOhMy[_2_]
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

Nothing there for Win XP Pro 32bit !

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Old February 28th 20, 09:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ed Cryer
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

MeOhMy wrote:
Nothing there for Win XP Pro 32bit !


Did you try the HP Print & Scan doctor? It claims to work with XP.
Ah well, try downloading it from here, right after where it says "HP
Print and Scan Doctor Download for Win7/Win8/Win8.1/Vista/XP/Windows 10
(Update : May 22, 2019)"
https://www.hpdrivers.net/hp-print-scan-doctor/

Ed


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Old February 28th 20, 10:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

MeOhMy wrote:
Purchased a week ago.

Been on phone with HP for hours to get this printer working on my home
network. About ready to ship it back as defective.

I won't go into the problems I have with it because it is not relevant
to my current needs.

I need to have this print from a WiFi connected Laptop running Win XP
Pro. I have another B/W printer (Samsung) WiFi connected just fine.

Samsung printers are absorbed by HP so no more Samsung printers.

Seems no specific driver available for HP 9010 Pro on Win XP Pro 32bit.

Google says use a universal HP driver can be used but I cannot find one
for Win XP Pro 32bit.

HP tech says he fixed the printers IP address to 192.168.1.159

Suggestions please.


Google for:

"WiFi-Enabled Printer Using Raspberry Pi 3 and USB-printer"

laptop ---/\/\ Wifi /\/\__ Edimax 802.11 Wifi ------ RPi 4 ------ USB printer connection
|
+5V power

The advantage of the RPi 4 is it has more USB ports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va6PWYZScZk

*******

The thing is, the HP software is laying in wait for you.

You'll download some EXE from their site, and up will pop
"your OS not supported by this here driver package". Even though
it's quite likely it would have worked otherwise. This is
about as close as I expect I'll get, and it's just not
good enough.

https://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/softw..._49.6.4502.exe

Paul



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Old March 1st 20, 04:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
MeOhMy[_2_]
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

Supposedly HP has some Universal Drivers that would work. Probably not
provide all the feature but would at least print.

An idea where to find the so called universal drivers for Win XP Pro 32
bit ?
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Old March 1st 20, 07:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

MeOhMy wrote:
Supposedly HP has some Universal Drivers that would work. Probably not
provide all the feature but would at least print.

An idea where to find the so called universal drivers for Win XP Pro 32
bit ?


The older projects at HP aren't likely to have metadata for the
HP 9010 onboard.

Go through the Repository and see if any will work.
I don't see a reason they would. WinXP was supported
up to the year 2014 or so.

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/UPD/

*******

When the print driver is PostScript, the metadata in that
case is a PPD file. And I've successfully used old PPD
files with newer printing software, to "make something"
that works OK for my purposes. I took the 755CM or the 750 file
from their real PostScript driver and moved the PPD forward
to work with the Universal PostScript Driver. I don't know
if PCL5/PCL6 makes that possible too or not.

HPLIPS/CUP for Linux is another way to print. You
could set up a Linux virtual machine and try that way.
Purely silly of course. But we can't leave any stone
unturned.

When you bought the machine, the specification page right
at the bottom, said which OSes are not supported. And when
they list info like that, they're serious about it. It
means they'll break on purpose, potential support for
older platforms. It probably would have worked if they
hadn't messed with it.

The thing is, as hardware and computing systems mature,
more of the hardware adheres to various standards, making
it possible to do drivers "for peanuts cost". It's because
the complexity is driven down to the hardware team. The
printer definitely has its own CPU. And, it's own internal
code.

Some printers even accept PDF files as an input and print
those for you directly. No print driver to get in the way.
No, I don't know the name of that method/subsystem. but
I was reading somewhere, that it's a new thing. That's sorta
to keep in line with the scanning part of the AIO,
scanning to PDF. It makes PDF a "unit of exchange"
where it exists.

*******

I suggested building a separate print spooler unit,
to connect to the USB port on the printer, with a
Edimax Wifi module on it so you could Wifi print. And
that would be something implemented using the HPLIPS/CUP
model. The print serving box (an RPi4), would serve files
to the machine through a USB cable. The RPi family have
similar prices, with the lower models consuming a bit
less power in operation.

But that's only if you at some point realize that
there's no HP driver. If you can figure out how to
get metadata for the HP9010 into an older UPD, then
you're laughing. There's no way I can test this
here, as I have no HP printers, nothing remotely
close to "develop against". This assumes the UPD driver
is using PCL5 or PCL6 (instead of the PostScript
the Postscript Universal Driver uses). The processor
inside your printer, reads the incoming PCL5 operators
and makes a pixmap to be printed on the paper. It's
why your printer has 512MB of internal RAM. It's
a tiny computer center in there.

Believe it or not, the purchasing process for printers
is *not easy*. That's why we have IT guys to read all
those web pages and realize most of the products are
never going to meet all the requirements. You don't
pick the printer based on "paint color". A printer
purchase should never be an "impulse buy" or
"it was on sale this week". Those are bad signs.
Suitable for direct one computer - one printer,
usage model. If you want to share a printer, the
complexity instantly goes way way up.

Paul
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Old March 2nd 20, 05:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
MeOhMy[_2_]
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

On my LAN I have a Win 7 PC that has the HP pro 9010 printer installed
and running connected via cat5 and USB. HP does not allow both wifi
and Ethernet at the same time.

From another laptop, a Win 7 Pro, I see printer and can print.

So why is there no way to pass a print job from my Win XP Pro laptop to
one of those PCs connected to the printer to do the printing (other than
using teamviewer or some such ?

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Old March 2nd 20, 05:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
MikeS[_5_]
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

On 02/03/2020 17:16, MeOhMy wrote:
On my LAN I have a Win 7 PC that has the HP pro 9010 printer installed
and running connected via cat5 and USB.Â*Â* HP does not allow both wifi
and Ethernet at the same time.

From another laptop, a Win 7 Pro, I see printer and can print.

So why is there no way to pass a print job from my Win XP Pro laptop to
one of those PCs connected to the printer to do the printing (other than
using teamviewer or some such ?

Share the printer on one of the Win 7 PCs. Then you can print to it over
the network from the Win XP laptop.

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Old March 2nd 20, 05:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, alt.windows7.general
Wolffan[_3_]
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Default HP 9010 Pro Printer Install

On 28 Feb 2020, MeOhMy wrote
(in article ):

Purchased a week ago.

Been on phone with HP for hours to get this printer working on my home
network. About ready to ship it back as defective.

I won't go into the problems I have with it because it is not relevant
to my current needs.

I need to have this print from a WiFi connected Laptop running Win XP
Pro. I have another B/W printer (Samsung) WiFi connected just fine.

Samsung printers are absorbed by HP so no more Samsung printers.

Seems no specific driver available for HP 9010 Pro on Win XP Pro 32bit.

Google says use a universal HP driver can be used but I cannot find one
for Win XP Pro 32bit.

HP tech says he fixed the printers IP address to 192.168.1.159

Suggestions please.


1 Hook the printer to a network which has a WAP and turn on Ethernet.
That’s what I do. The printer is available over wireless unless the
wireless net is segregated from the wired net. At home I have one big net; I
have wireless, DHCP, and DNS on the AT&T piece of **** connecting to the
Internet turned off, and have two proper systems connected to it by Ethernet,
both doing wireless in bridge mode, I have a small, old, machine connected by
Ethernet acting as DNS and DHCP servers. Most fixed hardware is connected by
Ethernet, including the printers. Laptops and cellphones and tablets use
wireless, and with two WAPs I have good signal strength throughout the
property. At the office we have two wireless nets, one for visitors etc.,
which has no access to anything on the main net, and one for staff, which
does have access. Most fixed hardware is, again, connected by Ethernet.
People using the staff wireless can print, see the file servers, database,
etc. People using the guest wireless can’t do much more than see the
Internet. I may implement a guest wireless net at home.

2 hook the printer to a server using USB, turn on the print server role. One
of the older devices at the office, an elderly imagesetter, is connected by a
parallel cable (no USB on that device, it’s too old!) to an elderly but
younger than the imagesetter XP machine running print server software. Access
to the print server is restricted to certain users as the imagesetter uses
very expensive film, but those users can use machines connected by Ethernet
or the staff wireless without problems.

3 hook the printer up to an ordinary desktop machine, turn on print sharing.
Have users talk to the machine doing the sharing.

Yes, I have an Active Directory network at home. It was trivial to implement,
on first W2K and W2K3 servers, since retired, then on W2K8, W2K8/R2, and
finally on W2k12 and later systems, all using actual legal licenses, many of
them free thanks to Microsoft’s Dreamspark and/or Imagine. Setting up Apple
servers is easier but OS X Server is crippled, though it’s only $20.00;
setting up Linux servers is free but more difficult. If you have a few older
machines available running your own servers is fairly easy and makes DNS,
VOIP, VPN, and anti-ad systems much easier to install and much more
effective. YMMV.

 




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