(OT) Error message when using Safari

David wrote:
On 20/12/2019 21:29, Paul wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

"when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same
predictions,
one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions"

What would the fewest assumptions be in this situation ?

Pretend this was a computer problem, and something like this
didn't work properly. What would you check ?

Paul


Paul

Can you reach *this* URL?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275


This is what Safari shows to me:-

https://imgur.com/a/PE22HjE

TIA

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to
social.answers.microsoft.com, but we can't confirm
that your connection is secure."

A missing or expired certificate maybe ?

Maybe the server no longer exists, and the nameserver at MSFT
has converted social.answers.microsoft.com into something
inappropriate (which then, has no certificate).

This looks like a puzzle for someone who likes web puzzles.

Paul

On 22/12/2019 01:23, Paul wrote:
David wrote:
On 20/12/2019 21:29, Paul wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Â*Â*Â* "when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same
predictions,
Â*Â*Â*Â* one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions"

What would the fewest assumptions be in this situation ?

Pretend this was a computer problem, and something like this
didn't work properly. What would you check ?
=
Paul

Can you reach *this* URL?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275


This is what Safari shows to me:-

https://imgur.com/a/PE22HjE

TIA

=

Â*Â* "This Connection is Untrusted

Â*Â*Â* You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to
Â*Â*Â* social.answers.microsoft.com, but we can't confirm
Â*Â*Â* that your connection is secure."

A missing or expired certificate maybe ?

Maybe the server no longer exists, and the nameserver at MSFT
has converted social.answers.microsoft.com into something
inappropriate (which then, has no certificate).

*This looks like a puzzle for someone who likes web puzzles*.

Â*Â* Paul

Thank you for confirming that it's not just MY browser being at fault
this time!

Might the SOURCE of the link be at fault in any way?

The source of the link may be found he-

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-3dae406e9c01

(I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late
Robear Dyer)


*Can YOU reach this URL*?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275


--
David

David wrote:
On 22/12/2019 01:23, Paul wrote:
David wrote:
On 20/12/2019 21:29, Paul wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

"when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same
predictions,
one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions"

What would the fewest assumptions be in this situation ?

Pretend this was a computer problem, and something like this
didn't work properly. What would you check ?
=
Paul

Can you reach *this* URL?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275


This is what Safari shows to me:-

https://imgur.com/a/PE22HjE

TIA

=

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to
social.answers.microsoft.com, but we can't confirm
that your connection is secure."

A missing or expired certificate maybe ?

Maybe the server no longer exists, and the nameserver at MSFT
has converted social.answers.microsoft.com into something
inappropriate (which then, has no certificate).

*This looks like a puzzle for someone who likes web puzzles*.

Paul

Thank you for confirming that it's not just MY browser being at fault
this time!

Might the SOURCE of the link be at fault in any way?

The source of the link may be found he-

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-3dae406e9c01


(I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late
Robear Dyer)


*Can YOU reach this URL*?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275

Using the "glob" on the end, the "87058857-d181-4019-a723-efd9a49d9275",
I can find it's been relocated. And that's the problem with that
sewer of a webforum on the microsoft.com site. They can't maintain
any web content properly.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3-efd9a49d9275

And the notion of installing tools on an infected computer is
pretty crazy. Malwarebytes tried that for a while, with their
"chameleon" thing. But the thing is, the bad guys adapt to tricks
like that, and then the "foothold" is harder to get.

Kaspersky is pretty good at clawing its way into an infected
computer, and all it takes for their paid version, is
several reboots. It may not finish the job on the first
reboot, but after several reboots, it'll "get in" and do its
thing.

And after such shenanigans are finished, do you still trust
your computer setup ? If it was just adware, then you wouldn't
panic. If it was a real threat, you might level and reload.
Classifying the threat, is a bit of work, as the tool you're
using, may not give any info about what it was.

Paul

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000, David
wrote:

"RANDOM"_STALKING_URL_REMOVED

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late

[moderator that *BANNED* me from the Forum. I posted his obituary,
commented he had few friends, phoned and insulted his family and
posted all the photos of him I could find where he looked ugly, (all
this after his demise so he couldn't defend himself) but I never let
go. I'm an "investigator].

Just so everyone "gets to know" who they're "helping".

http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000, David
wrote:

"RANDOM"_STALKING_URL_REMOVED

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late

[moderator that *BANNED* me from the Forum.

Aha!

I didn't know that.

I didn't think PA was a mod.

Paul

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 06:41:01 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000, David
wrote:

"RANDOM"_STALKING_URL_REMOVED

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late

[moderator that *BANNED* me from the Forum.

Aha!

I didn't know that.

I didn't think PA was a mod.

Whatever, I can't remember all their names and ranks... maybe
I mistook PA for another "enemy". There are so many ...

Very quick search

Message-ID:
Message-ID:
[]'s

Paul
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 06:41:01 -0500, Paul wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000, David
wrote:


https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late

[NOT a moderator - never *BANNED* me from the Forum.

Aha!

I didn't know that.

I didn't think PA was a mod.

Paul

Shadow is lying again. :-(

PABear was never a moderator on the Microsoft forums.


--
David

On 22 Dec 2019, David wrote
(in article3124575415@77b390117e7f403f92b4a94569e4076 c.local):

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 06:41:01 -0500, Paul wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000,
wrote:

https://social.answers.microsoft.com.../87058857-d181
-4019-a723-efd9a49d9275

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late

[NOT a moderator - never *BANNED* me from the Forum.

Aha!

I didn't know that.

I didn't think PA was a mod.

Paul

Shadow is lying again. :-(

unlikely


PABear was never a moderator on the Microsoft forums.

so... you admit that all the rest is true, eh? and why should anyone believe
you when you contradict Shadow, anyway?

On 22/12/2019 16:51, Wolffan wrote:
On 22 Dec 2019, David wrote
(in article3124575415@77b390117e7f403f92b4a94569e4076 c.local):

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 06:41:01 -0500, Paul wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000,
wrote:

https://social.answers.microsoft.com.../87058857-d181
-4019-a723-efd9a49d9275

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late

[NOT a moderator - never *BANNED* me from the Forum.

Aha!

I didn't know that.

I didn't think PA was a mod.

Paul

Shadow is lying again. :-(

unlikely

But he is! He's lying through his teeth!

PABear was never a moderator on the Microsoft forums.

so... you admit that all the rest is true, eh? and why should anyone believe
you when you contradict Shadow, anyway?

Can YOU solve the puzzle, Wolffan?

What can YOU tell me/us about https://social.answers.microsoft.com/

I DID work, back-along:-
https://web.archive.org/web/20140825...oft.com/en-US/

What changed and when?

D.

On 22 Dec 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 22/12/2019 16:51, Wolffan wrote:
On 22 Dec 2019, David wrote
(in article3124575415@77b390117e7f403f92b4a94569e4076 c.local):

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 06:41:01 -0500, Paul wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000,
wrote:

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...ead/87058857-d
181
-4019-a723-efd9a49d9275

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late

[NOT a moderator - never *BANNED* me from the Forum.

Aha!

I didn't know that.

I didn't think PA was a mod.

Paul

Shadow is lying again. :-(

unlikely

But he is! He's lying through his teeth!

you keep saying this. you also keep not, repeat NOT, providing even a
scintilla of support for your statements. Given your previous behaviour, when
you have lied consistently and deliberately about many people including me, I
don’t believe you and I will not believe unless you can provide supporting
evidence. and that evidence must either be easily verifiable by others,
especially including me, or must be vouched for by _trusted_ 3rd parties. No,
URLs are not evidence. neither are images. and the 3rd party had better have
a _long_ history of posting, a history which can be verified, to be sure that
he’s not just another of your socks.


PABear was never a moderator on the Microsoft forums.

so... you admit that all the rest is true, eh? and why should anyone believe
you when you contradict Shadow, anyway?

Can YOU solve the puzzle, Wolffan?

you’re the one who has to do that, idiot.


What can YOU tell me/us about https://social.answers.microsoft.com/

I don’t give a **** about it, and I don’t click on your links.


I DID work, back-along:-
https://web.archive.org/web/20140825...s.microsoft.co
m/en-US/

What changed and when?

not my problem at a guess you got banned. again, but that’s only a guess,
subject to modification if new evidence shows up. except i don’t give a
**** and am certainly not going to waste my time. you’re on your lonesome,
laddie.


D.

On 22/12/2019 10:01, Paul wrote:
David wrote:
On 22/12/2019 01:23, Paul wrote:
David wrote:
On 20/12/2019 21:29, Paul wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Â*Â*Â* "when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same
predictions,
Â*Â*Â*Â* one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions"

What would the fewest assumptions be in this situation ?

Pretend this was a computer problem, and something like this
didn't work properly. What would you check ?
=
Paul

Can you reach *this* URL?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275


This is what Safari shows to me:-

https://imgur.com/a/PE22HjE

TIA

=

Â*Â*Â* "This Connection is Untrusted

Â*Â*Â*Â* You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to
Â*Â*Â*Â* social.answers.microsoft.com, but we can't confirm
Â*Â*Â*Â* that your connection is secure."

A missing or expired certificate maybe ?

Maybe the server no longer exists, and the nameserver at MSFT
has converted social.answers.microsoft.com into something
inappropriate (which then, has no certificate).

*This looks like a puzzle for someone who likes web puzzles*.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

Thank you for confirming that it's not just MY browser being at fault
this time!

Might the SOURCE of the link be at fault in any way?

The source of the link may be found he-

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-3dae406e9c01


(I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the late
Robear Dyer)


*Can YOU reach this URL*?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275


Using the "glob" on the end, the "87058857-d181-4019-a723-efd9a49d9275",
I can find it's been relocated. And that's the problem with that
sewer of a webforum on the microsoft.com site. They can't maintain
any web content properly.

What an interesting comment you made, Paul.

I like that ..... "a sewer" - much in line with my own thoughts! :-)

I established to my own satisfaction that nobody from Microsoft is
responsible for checking the safety of any links published in forum
posts. Whilst naive computer users are well aware that they shouldn't
click random links in email messages. they perceive the Microsft forums
- and the Apple ASC forums too - to be 'SAFE' places. They will click
indiscriminately without a second thought.

A winter wonderland for 'bad guys' to play!

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3-efd9a49d9275

And the notion of installing tools on an infected computer is
pretty crazy. Malwarebytes tried that for a while, with their
"chameleon" thing. But the thing is, the bad guys adapt to tricks
like that, and then the "foothold" is harder to get.

Kaspersky is pretty good at clawing its way into an infected
computer, and all it takes for their paid version, is
several reboots. It may not finish the job on the first
reboot, but after several reboots, it'll "get in" and do its
thing.

And after such shenanigans are finished, do you still trust
your computer setup ? If it was just adware, then you wouldn't
panic. If it was a real threat, you might level and reload.
Classifying the threat, is a bit of work, as the tool you're
using, may not give any info about what it was.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

I really do appreciate the comments you make, Paul. The 'signature' of
PABear used in the Microsoft Answers forums always had a live link to
the Forums at www.Aumha.org There, lots of clever folk talked naive
computer users through all sorts of high-jinks to 'clean' their
computers. I became convinced that they were *installing* malware, not
removing it!
I worked hard to get the forums shut down.

One can still read questions and answers at Archive.org

--
David

On 23/12/2019 13:16, David wrote:
On 22/12/2019 10:01, Paul wrote:
David wrote:
On 22/12/2019 01:23, Paul wrote:
David wrote:
On 20/12/2019 21:29, Paul wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Â*Â*Â* "when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same
predictions,
Â*Â*Â*Â* one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions"

What would the fewest assumptions be in this situation ?

Pretend this was a computer problem, and something like this
didn't work properly. What would you check ?
=
Paul

Can you reach *this* URL?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275


This is what Safari shows to me:-

https://imgur.com/a/PE22HjE

TIA

=

Â*Â*Â* "This Connection is Untrusted

Â*Â*Â*Â* You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to
Â*Â*Â*Â* social.answers.microsoft.com, but we can't confirm
Â*Â*Â*Â* that your connection is secure."

A missing or expired certificate maybe ?

Maybe the server no longer exists, and the nameserver at MSFT
has converted social.answers.microsoft.com into something
inappropriate (which then, has no certificate).

*This looks like a puzzle for someone who likes web puzzles*.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

Thank you for confirming that it's not just MY browser being at fault
this time!

Might the SOURCE of the link be at fault in any way?

The source of the link may be found he-

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-3dae406e9c01


(I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for the
late Robear Dyer)


*Can YOU reach this URL*?

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...3-efd9a49d9275



Using the "glob" on the end, the "87058857-d181-4019-a723-efd9a49d9275",
I can find it's been relocated. And that's the problem with that
sewer of a webforum on the microsoft.com site. They can't maintain
any web content properly.

What an interesting comment you made, Paul.

I like that ..... "a sewer" - much in line with my own thoughts! :-)

I established to my own satisfaction that nobody from Microsoft is
responsible for checking the safety of any links published in forum
posts. Whilst naive computer users are well aware that they shouldn't
click random links in email messages. they perceive the Microsft forums
- and the Apple ASC forums too - to be 'SAFE' places. They will click
indiscriminately without a second thought.

A winter wonderland for 'bad guys' to play!

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3-efd9a49d9275


And the notion of installing tools on an infected computer is
pretty crazy. Malwarebytes tried that for a while, with their
"chameleon" thing. But the thing is, the bad guys adapt to tricks
like that, and then the "foothold" is harder to get.

Kaspersky is pretty good at clawing its way into an infected
computer, and all it takes for their paid version, is
several reboots. It may not finish the job on the first
reboot, but after several reboots, it'll "get in" and do its
thing.

And after such shenanigans are finished, do you still trust
your computer setup ? If it was just adware, then you wouldn't
panic. If it was a real threat, you might level and reload.
Classifying the threat, is a bit of work, as the tool you're
using, may not give any info about what it was.

Â*Â*Â*Â* Paul

I really do appreciate the comments you make, Paul. The 'signature' of
PABear used in the Microsoft Answers forums always had a live link to
the Forums at www.Aumha.orgÂ* There, lots of clever folk talked naive
computer users through all sorts of high-jinks to 'clean' their
computers. I became convinced that they were *installing* malware, not
removing it!
I worked hard to get the forums shut down.

One can still read questions and answers at Archive.org

Did anyone reading in these groups ever use the Aumha Forums?

https://web.archive.org/web/20120919...p://aumha.net/

They still 'work' too!

--
David

David ! Sun,
22 Dec 2019 23:29:16 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 22/12/2019 16:51, Wolffan wrote:
On 22 Dec 2019, David wrote
(in article3124575415@77b390117e7f403f92b4a94569e4076 c.local):

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 06:41:01 -0500, Paul wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:04:13 +0000,
wrote:

https://social.answers.microsoft.com...sescan/thread/
87058857-d181 -4019-a723-efd9a49d9275

I picked it more-or-less at random after a Google search for
the late

[NOT a moderator - never *BANNED* me from the Forum.

Aha!

I didn't know that.

I didn't think PA was a mod.

Paul

Shadow is lying again. :-(

unlikely

But he is! He's lying through his teeth!

Cite!

PABear was never a moderator on the Microsoft forums.

so... you admit that all the rest is true, eh? and why should
anyone believe you when you contradict Shadow, anyway?

Can YOU solve the puzzle, Wolffan?

What can YOU tell me/us about
https://social.answers.microsoft.com/

I DID work, back-along:-
https://web.archive.org/web/20140825...cial.answers.m
icrosoft.com/en-US/

What changed and when?

You quote and ignore it all? Do you really think this goes over well
for you David?


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lid Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:01:40 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

In article , David
wrote:

*What* am I doing 'wrong'

breathing


ROFL!


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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" news:qtg2mc$757
Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:49:48 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

"Life without parole."

I do hope you mean that.


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