Do we have (yet) an actionable list of all free Windows & Linux web browsers (and their main purpose)?

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 17:24:27 -0000 (UTC)
Arlen Holder wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:07:56 -0800, John Corliss wrote:

Since your message was cross-posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,
alt.comp.freeware and alt.os.linux, I have to ask who is the "we"
you are referring to?

Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?

If so, is there some online repository you can point out where this
list resides?

Hi John Corliss,

DISCLAIMER: This was written for John Corliss only (to answer his
query). (Others will be bored to tears since everything below you
already know.)

Others will be bored to tears with anything you write.

I care about people - much like Marok Novotny cared about people,
John. o And I help people - however differently than Marek did.

Arlen's Enemies List has grown to at least 85 although I think I
counted over 90 on one of his posts. His recent post only listed 68 or
so. Maybe there's some pandering going on or his mind (such as it is)
is slipping.

Marek had no enemies list. /HE/ cared about people. You fail
miserably in measuring up to his toenail.

I help not by answering questions, but by asking them.
o And then adding *all* helpful content - to _improve_ the answers
for all.

Yet you consider yourself to be an educator. Heh, yeah, right. Tell
another one.

Notice I'm _different_ from most Usenet posters.

Yes, many are human-like and have no enemies list.

o Most are here, IMHO, to simply "converse" (they use a "chitchat"
model). o I'm only here for one thing & one thing only, to ask &
answer questions.

Um, don't look now, but that's TWO things. Not one t hing, not one
thing only; it is actually two things. Mind slipping just a wee little
bit?

??? Just five short lines above (in your post) you stated, "I help not
by answering questions." Now you do? Which is it? (yep, a possible
slipping mind)

I don't sit at the coffee shop to "chit chat" every day like most
do... o I come when I have a question to be answered - I answer that
question.

You mean that you get others to answer it and then take credit for
their work, brains, and willingness to share by teaching. You, sir,
are merely a sop, much like a sponge but with less on the ball.

And then I leave...

Oh, don't we fervently wish...

o Returning anew only to flesh out in gory detail yet another
question.

....that you would out your flesh in gory detail.

This, I've been doing, John Corliss, for about two decades on Usenet.
o In that time, I've fleshed out so many details, I can't count them.

What? But you claim that you DID count them at least up to 10,000:
----------
Message-ID:
I have likely written over ten thousand tutorials, where at my last
company, I wrote over five thousand alone. On the Internet, I don't know
how many I have, but if you assume that I write one a day sometimes,
and at
least one a week, I have many thousands (i.e., I'm on many web forums).
----------

Did that, um, "slip your mind?"


From Centos, to Ubuntu, to WinXP to Win10 to Mac to iOS to Android.
o Most people are unlike me John Corliss (I'm likely 1 out of 10,000).

There's that same old number again. Is it a symptom of something dire?
Personally, I am one out of 7.7 Billion (in 2019) people. Who knows
where Arlen gets his clones or doppelgangers?

Some of _you_ are like I am, e.g., Marek Novotny was,

You really do need to stop speaking ill of Marek. He doesn't deserve it
and you certainly /DO NOT/ measure up.

for example.
o And Paul. And wasbit. And even Mike Easter (most of the time).

No, none of them are at all like you; they actually help and are
generally nice people who /DO CARE/ about people. IOW, no enemies list.

VERY unlike you.

Others, are so polar opposite of me that I would term them children.

That's one of the three or four words he knows with which to describe
those on his enemies list. He usually claims that we are in
possession of children's brains. I suppose he things we're ghouls.

Belief in those, I think, is indicative of something or other...

o Dan Purgert & Cybe(R) Wizard come to mind, on the Linux newsgroups.

Yep, you just can't stop thinking about us, can you? It's nice to be
so cared for.

Additionally, your repeated mentioning of me is the reason you get
these replies (which will not stop, even upon my death, as I have
farmed them out to three other people who will get news of my passing.
Get ready!).

Unless you wish to do as I have long asked and give up that list of TEN
THOUSAND tutorials you claim to have written.

To all of you who have to see these replies, sorry. Killfile me if you
think it necessary. I'm usually not the vile beast seen in these
replies to Alren.

o Rene Lamantagne & Paul Raymond come to mind on the Windows
newsgroups. o Diesel & James come to mind on the freeware newsgroups.

I'm sure they feel as I do about your real and human caring.

Those "children" are something like half or 3/4 of Usenet, IMHO.
o They _never_ can add any value to the FAQ model.

All they _can_ do, is idle worthless (IMHO) off-topic chitchat.
o That's why they _hate_ the FAQ model (it's too complicated for
them).

So much care for others you have! I'm completely in awe!

Since I compare the "chitchat" model of Usenet to my "FAQ" model...
o Here is a detailed FAQ that answers (hopefully) your valid
questions.

Q: Who is "we"?
A: Any adult who wants an actionable browser listing on these three
ngs: http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com

Q: Why on earth would anyone need a score of free browser installers?
A: One reason is to update the yearly archive of free browsers for
2020 (particularly for those who employ the 1-browser-per task
philosophy)

Because no one believes the myriad other lists of EXACTLY THE SAME
THING found all over the web.

Q: What is the one-browser-per task philosophy you speak of?
A: It's a privacy/security/utility based philosophy of browser setup
& use.

No, it's a clear and obvious detailing of your compulsive/obsessive
disorder. Have you taken your medication today? It seems like you
have been FAILING IN THAT (TOO).

o Discussion of two different privacy-related browser
philosophies
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/H4694--5znY/LOOCa11RBgAJ

....in which you attempt (poorly) to defend your disorder?

Q: How many different browsers do you need to implement that
philosophy? A: Depends on the person; but a dozen to a score of
browsers are available.

Q: Where are those dozen to a score of browsers available for my
platform? A: This listing contains what you need for most consumer
platforms:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw

....or this one:
https://en.wikipediahttps://en.wikip...f_web_browsers

Q: Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?
A: Of course there is.

What? That doesn't even make any sense viz-a-viz your question.
(although we know from your own words that you aren't good at actually
answering questions)

My software hierarchy, for example, has
hundreds. archivers, browsers, cleaners, databases, editors,
finances, games, etc.

Too long, too many lies to read. Ho-hum, more of the same.

--
Cybe R. Wizard

In :
Message-ID:
you (Arlen) said, "I formally now leave this thread."
You've posted to this thread 6 (six) times since.
Liar.
You, "sir," are a being of no honor.

On 1/2/20 10:24 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:07:56 -0800, John Corliss wrote:

Since your message was cross-posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,
alt.comp.freeware and alt.os.linux, I have to ask who is the "we" you
are referring to?

Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?

If so, is there some online repository you can point out where this list
resides?

Hi John Corliss,

DISCLAIMER: This was written for John Corliss only (to answer his query).
(Others will be bored to tears since everything below you already know.)

I care about people - much like Marok Novotny cared about people, John.
o And I help people - however differently than Marek did.

And yet below you have a whole list of people you beg for attention with
your insults. You live for ATTENTION. You care not one whit about
sharing information as long as you get attention.

I help not by answering questions, but by asking them.
o And then adding *all* helpful content - to _improve_ the answers for all.

Nope. When I have asked you questions you ran. And then you come back
with a different name.

Notice I'm _different_ from most Usenet posters.
o Most are here, IMHO, to simply "converse" (they use a "chitchat" model).
o I'm only here for one thing & one thing only, to ask & answer questions.

Yet below you prove you claim false. You are here to try to feel better
about yourself by putting others down.

I don't sit at the coffee shop to "chit chat" every day like most do...
o I come when I have a question to be answered - I answer that question.

So, anything about tech you want to discuss? Or are you just here to
speak about how highly you want to see yourself and how you need to put
others down to try to feel good about yourself?

And then I leave...
o Returning anew only to flesh out in gory detail yet another question.

This, I've been doing, John Corliss, for about two decades on Usenet.
o In that time, I've fleshed out so many details, I can't count them.

From Centos, to Ubuntu, to WinXP to Win10 to Mac to iOS to Android.
o Most people are unlike me John Corliss (I'm likely 1 out of 10,000).

Some of _you_ are like I am, e.g., Marek Novotny was, for example.
o And Paul. And wasbit. And even Mike Easter (most of the time).

Others, are so polar opposite of me that I would term them children.
o Dan Purgert & Cybe(R) Wizard come to mind, on the Linux newsgroups.
o Rene Lamantagne & Paul Raymond come to mind on the Windows newsgroups.
o Diesel & James come to mind on the freeware newsgroups.

Those "children" are something like half or 3/4 of Usenet, IMHO.
o They _never_ can add any value to the FAQ model.

All they _can_ do, is idle worthless (IMHO) off-topic chitchat.
o That's why they _hate_ the FAQ model (it's too complicated for them).

Since I compare the "chitchat" model of Usenet to my "FAQ" model...
o Here is a detailed FAQ that answers (hopefully) your valid questions.

Q: Who is "we"?
A: Any adult who wants an actionable browser listing on these three ngs:
http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com

Q: Why on earth would anyone need a score of free browser installers?
A: One reason is to update the yearly archive of free browsers for 2020
(particularly for those who employ the 1-browser-per task philosophy)

Q: What is the one-browser-per task philosophy you speak of?
A: It's a privacy/security/utility based philosophy of browser setup & use.
o Discussion of two different privacy-related browser philosophies
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/H4694--5znY/LOOCa11RBgAJ

Q: How many different browsers do you need to implement that philosophy?
A: Depends on the person; but a dozen to a score of browsers are available.

Q: Where are those dozen to a score of browsers available for my platform?
A: This listing contains what you need for most consumer platforms:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw

Q: Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?
A: Of course there is. My software hierarchy, for example, has hundreds.
archivers, browsers, cleaners, databases, editors, finances, games, etc.

Q: Where is another example, similar to this listing, of that collection?
A: See these purposefully helpful examples where 'we' each added value:
NOTE: This is only the result of a quick search (many more exist!)
o *Please improve this listing of available freeware PDF functionality*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/iB5aOor0-Kw/hzoJDDjADQAJ
o *What is a decent freeware image watermarking GUI?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/xW6PwG45YnE/v-SvJ3byBwAJ
o *Are there any other good freeware EXIF metadata editors?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/ICLOn2nZDO0/oQKRLzNECAAJ
o *What freeware do you prefer to view GPS tracks on offline USGS topo maps?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/IeNTm2cOrd8/zeOXITDIBwAJ
o *What's a good free desktop screen recorder?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/PmJ0dn3gots/9jBcg8zQBQAJ

Q: What platform do you write these many freeware listings & tutorials for?
A: Any platform I own, which is basically every common consumer platform.
For example:
o *What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/jVDwboH6Dhc/lG_sq8X2CwAJ

Q: Why are your tutorials & lists always aimed at 'free' software?
A: Because I want the lists to be generally leveragable to everyone.

Q: Why are your tutorials & lists always so damn detailed?
A: Because I want the lists & tutorials to be actionable by everyone.

Q: Why do you care that you help people learn more about such things?
A: Because I'm a purposefully helpful person, perhaps 1 out of 10,000.

I hope this short (rather obvious, by the way) FAQ helps you understand
that there are some people (maybe one out of 1000?) who are adults that
care enough to write many purposefully helpful tutorials and freeware
software threads simply so that they, and the other 0.01% to perhaps 10%
(at most, unfortunately) of the adults on Usenet can and will benefit from
everyone acting like adults on Usenet, where, to me, that means:

a. We post purposefully helpful content that we, together, improve.
b. Such that we can all make use of this purposefully helpful content.
c. Which improves our capabilities and knowledge on all consumer platforms.

While people like wasbit, Paul, Marek and I are one out of 10,000, some of
those who are likely half of Usenet who use the chitchat model are listed
below, where I posit that they have (almost) never, even once in their
entire lives, written a detailed tutorial or actionable listing on Usenet
that others can benefit from that contains even the simplest of
complexities that this thread flushed out with the help of the 1 out of
10,000 purposefully helpful adults on Usenet.



--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 20/01/02 9:24 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:07:56 -0800, John Corliss wrote:

Since your message was cross-posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,
alt.comp.freeware and alt.os.linux, I have to ask who is the "we" you
are referring to?

Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?

If so, is there some online repository you can point out where this list
resides?

Hi John Corliss,

DISCLAIMER: This was written for John Corliss only (to answer his query).
(Others will be bored to tears since everything below you already know.)

I care about people - much like Marok Novotny cared about people, John.
o And I help people - however differently than Marek did.

I help not by answering questions, but by asking them.
o And then adding *all* helpful content - to _improve_ the answers for all.

Notice I'm _different_ from most Usenet posters.
o Most are here, IMHO, to simply "converse" (they use a "chitchat" model).
o I'm only here for one thing & one thing only, to ask & answer questions.

I don't sit at the coffee shop to "chit chat" every day like most do...
o I come when I have a question to be answered - I answer that question.

And then I leave...
o Returning anew only to flesh out in gory detail yet another question.

This, I've been doing, John Corliss, for about two decades on Usenet.
o In that time, I've fleshed out so many details, I can't count them.

From Centos, to Ubuntu, to WinXP to Win10 to Mac to iOS to Android.
o Most people are unlike me John Corliss (I'm likely 1 out of 10,000).

Some of _you_ are like I am, e.g., Marek Novotny was, for example.
o And Paul. And wasbit. And even Mike Easter (most of the time).

Others, are so polar opposite of me that I would term them children.
o Dan Purgert & Cybe(R) Wizard come to mind, on the Linux newsgroups.
o Rene Lamantagne & Paul Raymond come to mind on the Windows newsgroups.
o Diesel & James come to mind on the freeware newsgroups.

Those "children" are something like half or 3/4 of Usenet, IMHO.
o They _never_ can add any value to the FAQ model.

All they _can_ do, is idle worthless (IMHO) off-topic chitchat.
o That's why they _hate_ the FAQ model (it's too complicated for them).

Since I compare the "chitchat" model of Usenet to my "FAQ" model...
o Here is a detailed FAQ that answers (hopefully) your valid questions.

Q: Who is "we"?
A: Any adult who wants an actionable browser listing on these three ngs:
http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com

Q: Why on earth would anyone need a score of free browser installers?
A: One reason is to update the yearly archive of free browsers for 2020
(particularly for those who employ the 1-browser-per task philosophy)

Q: What is the one-browser-per task philosophy you speak of?
A: It's a privacy/security/utility based philosophy of browser setup & use.
o Discussion of two different privacy-related browser philosophies
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/H4694--5znY/LOOCa11RBgAJ

Q: How many different browsers do you need to implement that philosophy?
A: Depends on the person; but a dozen to a score of browsers are available.

Q: Where are those dozen to a score of browsers available for my platform?
A: This listing contains what you need for most consumer platforms:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw

Q: Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?
A: Of course there is. My software hierarchy, for example, has hundreds.
archivers, browsers, cleaners, databases, editors, finances, games, etc.

Q: Where is another example, similar to this listing, of that collection?
A: See these purposefully helpful examples where 'we' each added value:
NOTE: This is only the result of a quick search (many more exist!)
o *Please improve this listing of available freeware PDF functionality*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/iB5aOor0-Kw/hzoJDDjADQAJ
o *What is a decent freeware image watermarking GUI?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/xW6PwG45YnE/v-SvJ3byBwAJ
o *Are there any other good freeware EXIF metadata editors?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/ICLOn2nZDO0/oQKRLzNECAAJ
o *What freeware do you prefer to view GPS tracks on offline USGS topo maps?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/IeNTm2cOrd8/zeOXITDIBwAJ
o *What's a good free desktop screen recorder?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/PmJ0dn3gots/9jBcg8zQBQAJ

Q: What platform do you write these many freeware listings & tutorials for?
A: Any platform I own, which is basically every common consumer platform.
For example:
o *What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/jVDwboH6Dhc/lG_sq8X2CwAJ

Q: Why are your tutorials & lists always aimed at 'free' software?
A: Because I want the lists to be generally leveragable to everyone.

Q: Why are your tutorials & lists always so damn detailed?
A: Because I want the lists & tutorials to be actionable by everyone.

Q: Why do you care that you help people learn more about such things?
A: Because I'm a purposefully helpful person, perhaps 1 out of 10,000.

I hope this short (rather obvious, by the way) FAQ helps you understand
that there are some people (maybe one out of 1000?) who are adults that
care enough to write many purposefully helpful tutorials and freeware
software threads simply so that they, and the other 0.01% to perhaps 10%
(at most, unfortunately) of the adults on Usenet can and will benefit from
everyone acting like adults on Usenet, where, to me, that means:

a. We post purposefully helpful content that we, together, improve.
b. Such that we can all make use of this purposefully helpful content.
c. Which improves our capabilities and knowledge on all consumer platforms.

While people like wasbit, Paul, Marek and I are one out of 10,000, some of
those who are likely half of Usenet who use the chitchat model are listed
below, where I posit that they have (almost) never, even once in their
entire lives, written a detailed tutorial or actionable listing on Usenet
that others can benefit from that contains even the simplest of
complexities that this thread flushed out with the help of the 1 out of
10,000 purposefully helpful adults on Usenet.


WTF is all this crap? Can't you simply answer my questions? They were
simply asked, deserve simple answers.

--
John Corliss BS206. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, pirated,
share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out
posts made from Google Groups and recommend you do likewise. I also
filter out all posts from »Q« (a consummate troll) and Kasey, who
doesn't believe in two-way firewalls.

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John Corliss wrote:
On 20/01/02 9:24 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
The usual crap

WTF is all this crap? Can't you simply answer my questions? They were
simply asked, deserve simple answers.

He doesn't know how to write "simple". Much less without being
disparaging towards others.


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On 2020-01-03 12:07 a.m., John Corliss wrote:
On 20/01/02 9:24 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 02:07:56 -0800, John Corliss wrote:

Since your message was cross-posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,
alt.comp.freeware and alt.os.linux, I have to ask who is the "we" you
are referring to?

Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?

If so, is there some online repository you can point out where this list
resides?

Hi John Corliss,

DISCLAIMER: This was written for John Corliss only (to answer his query).
(Others will be bored to tears since everything below you already know.)

I care about people - much like Marok Novotny cared about people, John.
o And I help people - however differently than Marek did.

I help not by answering questions, but by asking them.
o And then adding *all* helpful content - to _improve_ the answers for
all.

Notice I'm _different_ from most Usenet posters.
o Most are here, IMHO, to simply "converse" (they use a "chitchat"
model).
o I'm only here for one thing & one thing only, to ask & answer
questions.

I don't sit at the coffee shop to "chit chat" every day like most do...
o I come when I have a question to be answered - I answer that question.

And then I leave...
o Returning anew only to flesh out in gory detail yet another question.

This, I've been doing, John Corliss, for about two decades on Usenet.
o In that time, I've fleshed out so many details, I can't count them.

Â*From Centos, to Ubuntu, to WinXP to Win10 to Mac to iOS to Android.
o Most people are unlike me John Corliss (I'm likely 1 out of 10,000).

Some of _you_ are like I am, e.g., Marek Novotny was, for example.
o And Paul. And wasbit. And even Mike Easter (most of the time).

Others, are so polar opposite of me that I would term them children.
o Dan Purgert & Cybe(R) Wizard come to mind, on the Linux newsgroups.
o Rene Lamantagne & Paul Raymond come to mind on the Windows newsgroups.
o Diesel & James come to mind on the freeware newsgroups.

Those "children" are something like half or 3/4 of Usenet, IMHO.
o They _never_ can add any value to the FAQ model.

All they _can_ do, is idle worthless (IMHO) off-topic chitchat.
o That's why they _hate_ the FAQ model (it's too complicated for them).

Since I compare the "chitchat" model of Usenet to my "FAQ" model...
o Here is a detailed FAQ that answers (hopefully) your valid questions.

Q: Who is "we"?
A: Any adult who wants an actionable browser listing on these three ngs:
Â*Â*Â* http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux
Â*Â*Â* http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
Â*Â*Â* http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com

Q: Why on earth would anyone need a score of free browser installers?
A: One reason is to update the yearly archive of free browsers for 2020
Â*Â*Â* (particularly for those who employ the 1-browser-per task philosophy)

Q: What is the one-browser-per task philosophy you speak of?
A: It's a privacy/security/utility based philosophy of browser setup &
use.
Â*Â*Â* o Discussion of two different privacy-related browser philosophies

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/H4694--5znY/LOOCa11RBgAJ


Q: How many different browsers do you need to implement that philosophy?
A: Depends on the person; but a dozen to a score of browsers are
available.

Q: Where are those dozen to a score of browsers available for my
platform?
A: This listing contains what you need for most consumer platforms:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw

Q: Is this list of browsers part of a larger collection of software?
A: Of course there is. My software hierarchy, for example, has hundreds.
Â*Â*Â* archivers, browsers, cleaners, databases, editors, finances,
games, etc.

Q: Where is another example, similar to this listing, of that collection?
A: See these purposefully helpful examples where 'we' each added value:
Â*Â*Â* NOTE: This is only the result of a quick search (many more exist!)
Â*Â*Â* o *Please improve this listing of available freeware PDF
functionality*

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/iB5aOor0-Kw/hzoJDDjADQAJ

Â*Â*Â* o *What is a decent freeware image watermarking GUI?*

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/xW6PwG45YnE/v-SvJ3byBwAJ

Â*Â*Â* o *Are there any other good freeware EXIF metadata editors?

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/ICLOn2nZDO0/oQKRLzNECAAJ

Â*Â*Â* o *What freeware do you prefer to view GPS tracks on offline USGS
topo maps?*

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/IeNTm2cOrd8/zeOXITDIBwAJ

Â*Â*Â* o *What's a good free desktop screen recorder?*

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/PmJ0dn3gots/9jBcg8zQBQAJ


Q: What platform do you write these many freeware listings & tutorials
for?
A: Any platform I own, which is basically every common consumer platform.
Â*Â*Â* For example:
Â*Â*Â* o *What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running
F-Droid APKs?*

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/jVDwboH6Dhc/lG_sq8X2CwAJ


Q: Why are your tutorials & lists always aimed at 'free' software?
A: Because I want the lists to be generally leveragable to everyone.

Q: Why are your tutorials & lists always so damn detailed?
A: Because I want the lists & tutorials to be actionable by everyone.

Q: Why do you care that you help people learn more about such things?
A: Because I'm a purposefully helpful person, perhaps 1 out of 10,000.

I hope this short (rather obvious, by the way) FAQ helps you understand
that there are some people (maybe one out of 1000?) who are adults that
care enough to write many purposefully helpful tutorials and freeware
software threads simply so that they, and the other 0.01% to perhaps 10%
(at most, unfortunately) of the adults on Usenet can and will benefit
from
everyone acting like adults on Usenet, where, to me, that means:

a. We post purposefully helpful content that we, together, improve.
b. Such that we can all make use of this purposefully helpful content.
c. Which improves our capabilities and knowledge on all consumer
platforms.

While people like wasbit, Paul, Marek and I are one out of 10,000,
some of
those who are likely half of Usenet who use the chitchat model are listed
below, where I posit that they have (almost) never, even once in their
entire lives, written a detailed tutorial or actionable listing on Usenet
that others can benefit from that contains even the simplest of
complexities that this thread flushed out with the help of the 1 out of
10,000 purposefully helpful adults on Usenet.


WTF is all this crap? Can't you simply answer my questions? They were
simply asked, deserve simple answers.


John, You are dealing with the village retarded Idiot.

Rene

Rene Lamontagne wrote in
:

On 2020-01-03 12:07 a.m., John Corliss wrote:
On 20/01/02 9:24 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
WTF is all this crap? Can't you simply answer my questions? They were
simply asked, deserve simple answers.


John, You are dealing with the village retarded Idiot.

Rene

Yea Rene, you *are* the village retarded idiot because you managed to quote
the entire retarded thread to add one sentence.
Well done, idiot.
Now go back to your village.

On 2020-01-03 9:37 a.m., Unger wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote in
:

On 2020-01-03 12:07 a.m., John Corliss wrote:
On 20/01/02 9:24 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
WTF is all this crap? Can't you simply answer my questions? They were
simply asked, deserve simple answers.


John, You are dealing with the village retarded Idiot.

Rene

Yea Rene, you *are* the village retarded idiot because you managed to quote
the entire retarded thread to add one sentence.
Well done, idiot.
Now go back to your village.


Sorry, like many others I forgot to clip.
BTW, My *village* has about 800,000 people.

Rene

On Thu, 02 Jan 2020 20:13:57 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 17:24:27 -0000 (UTC) Arlen Holder

snip

To all of you who have to see these replies, sorry. Killfile me if you
think it necessary. I'm usually not the vile beast seen in these replies
to Alren.

I killfiled the idiot Arlen ages ago, it's just a boring know-nothing
troll.

On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:29:58 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2020 20:13:57 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 17:24:27 -0000 (UTC) Arlen Holder

snip

To all of you who have to see these replies, sorry. Killfile me if you
think it necessary. I'm usually not the vile beast seen in these replies
to Alren.

I killfiled the idiot Arlen ages ago, it's just a boring know-nothing
troll.

*plonk*

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:29:51 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

Do we have (yet) an actionable list of all free Windows/Linux web browsers
(& their main purpose & where to get the full offline installer)?
o If yes, then where is that single-page listing?

Solved:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw/ZmsEnxHPBwAJ

That's the only post that matters in this thread, in terms of full links.
o Any post of or after "Karen" & "John Corliss" is their worthless spam.

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(where any hope of addigional value is lost once they infest any thread),
I simply point to the latest team-built ("we") summary, which takes into
account _every_ purposefully helpful suggestion made by many purposefully
helpful adults so that we all benefit from the summary results.

UPDATE:

Based on information in this thread today:
o Firefox 72.0.1 fixes a security vulnerability that is actively exploited
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/gz_Q2x9uawA

And, given the main reason for needing so many browsers is twofold
a. Enable users to more easily install any browser they want, or,
b. Enable the one-browser-per-task philosophy
o Discussion of two different privacy-related browser philosophies
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/H4694--5znY/LOOCa11RBgAJ

As opposed to the swiss-army-knife-browser philosophy that most people seem
to use, in the *one-browser-per-task philosophy*, each browser is set up
specifically to allow the _minimum permissions possible for that task_.

While we're on the subject, there are two more privacy tricks, one of which
came up in this thread today about killswitches:
o Looking for and InternetOff like program for Linux
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/7EAW3bfdS18

Which is to set the _default_ browser to any of the _proxy_ browsers, which
protects your privacy when links are automatically popped up (e.g., when
installing software, particularly on Windows, as I haven't seen a browser
pop up after a software installation on Linux).

Another related privacy based issue is that you can set the startup tabs to
allow privacy-based actions, such as:
o Chrome-based browsers: chrome://settings/clearBrowserData
o Mozilla-based browsers: aboutreferences#privacy (is there better?)
o Microsoft-based browsers: ?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/jxtXrrjmWVE/P_aTEDsgBAAJ

Notice that I can't find yet a better way to make it a single click for
Mozilla-based browsers or Microsoft based browsers to wipe out the cookies
on demand.
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UPDATE:

There are two updates for this thread on all web browser installers:
1. CrEdge released on January 15th, 2020 (two weeks after this thread)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4501095/download-the-new-microsoft-edge-based-on-chromium

(Maybe crEdge image copy works better than oldEdge with Usenet URLs?)
https://i.postimg.cc/t7078JSz/browser00.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zvwVZ5sZ/browser01.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Hkrdbd6Y/browser02.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/j5XGGFM3/browser03.jpg

2. Today we added how to create a shortcut to IE for your WinXP-style menus
https://i.postimg.cc/QNKrv8by/browser04.jpg
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/18520/download-internet-explorer-11-offline-installer

Details in rec.photo.digital because of strange photo-URL copy in oldEdge:
o What's the trick in the Microsoft Edge browser - to get the ORIGINAL image URL?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.photo.digital/pfXdAkZJyBQ
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 15:31:11 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

If so, based on that article, you're probably using
the ChromEdge one or something. As it's a lot harder
to do *anything* to the original MSEdge.

There is a way to make a shortcut for the original MSEdge,
except, you can't edit it.

Paul

It's the same one I've been using for months. It was the MSoft promo.

Regarding the shortcut to Microsoft Edge... see...
o *What's the trick in the Microsoft Edge browser - to get the ORIGINAL image URL?*
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/TRgRQ8fg/what-s-the-trick-in-the-microsoft-edge-browser-to-get-the-original-image-url

The reason I needed that Edge shortcut is that I maintain WinXP style
accordion cascade menus, and therefore, I needed to add the Edge & IE
shortcuts to that classic Windows XP style Windows 10 native menu:
Start menu browser {edge,ie,firefox,tor,opera,iron,etc.}

EDGE
o TARGET = %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8 bbwe!MicrosoftEdge
o STARTIN = %windir%
o ICONFROM = %SystemRoot%\System32\SHELL32.dll

IE
o TARGET = "%ProgramFiles%\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
o STARTIN = %windir%
o ICONFROM = %ProgramFiles%\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 05:48:07 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

Have you noticed the new free Chromium-based Edge browser
[Update & security Check for updates [Download]
apparently COMPLETELY replaces the old Edge browser?

UPDATE:
https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg

I forgot to mention I figured out how to get all three Windows browsers to
work on Windows 10 concurrently
a. Internet explorer
b. Old legacy Microsoft Edge UWB classic
c. New Chromium-based Microsoft Edge
https://i.postimg.cc/QN6rbSQD/browser05.jpg

See this response just now, for example, on this thread:
o internet exporer pullled by Microsoft?, by Bentot
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/Iq6fdo9G/internet-exporer-pullled-by-microsoft
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/8RGvF5vEgyg

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:34:41 -0500, gooby wrote:

o Otherwise, it's too much of a PITA to even go rummaging to look for 'em.

Check in c:\app\web\

All ur browsers be in there. same sence xp.

Holy cow! I don't know you, but you clearly know me well!
o My menus from Windows 95 to XP to Win7, Vista, & Win10 are the same!

Exact same files, in fact; simply zipped up to port to _all_ my PCs!
o They have only improved slightly, over the decades, with new software.

Even iOS/Android devices use, essentially, the same functional hierarchy
o What we do on a computer doesn't change, essentially, between machines.

We edit, we browse, we archive, we network, we telecommunicate, etc.
o The fact you know that fact, means, you know me well: You are good!

What we do is the same functional menu hierarchy on all desktop machines!
o https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg

You're actually damn good because one in a million can do what you said!
o https://i.postimg.cc/QN6rbSQD/browser05.jpg

1. Here is my screenshot of C:\app\ where browser is next, as you knew:
o https://i.postimg.cc/jqvR1RrG/browser01.jpg

2. Below that, are the "types" of browsers, one of which is http
o https://i.postimg.cc/xdrQmCKb/browser02.jpg

3. Inside of http shows four fundamental browser code bases:
(chromium based, mozilla based, independents, & microsoft based)
o https://i.postimg.cc/Y9MwXsDr/browser03.jpg

4. Inside the Microsoft code base are the three MS Windows 10 browsers:
(internet explorer, old legacy Edge UWB classic, new Edge Chrome)
o https://i.postimg.cc/4y3RGhTj/browser04.jpg

Looking at the M$ *.lnk shortcuts, these are the TARGETS to each:
a. Internet Explorer
TARGET: "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
b. Old legacy Edge UWB classic
TARGET: %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8 bbwe!MicrosoftEdge
c. New Edge Chrome
TARGET: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe"

Entering those commands into the Win+R Run box brings up each browser:
a. InternetExplorer: Gear icon About Internet Explorer
Version 11.959.18362.0 (Update version 11.0.200)
b. Edge UWB: Elipses Settings General About this app
Version Microsoft Edge 44.18362.449.0
Version Microsoft EdgeHTML 18.18363
c. Edge Chrome: Elipses Settings About Microsoft Edge
Version 84.0.522.50 (Official build) (64-bit)

As you noted, all three browsers work just fine concurrently in Win10!
https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg
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UPDATE:

By default, the three Microsoft browsers don't peacefully coexist on
Windows 10, but with a few tweaks, you can easily make them coexist.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:24:26 -0700, Bentot wrote:

I checked on my Win 10 system (Pro, updated every month) and IE 11 still
there as well as Edge 18 (not Chromium Edge).

Weird!! TKs

Internet Explorer, AFAIK, is unaffected when you install the new Edge.
o "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg

As far as I know, unless you change two registry keys, whenever Edge Chrome
is installed, the old Edge legacy classic UWB is "hidden" automatically.
o Edge Chrome: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe"
o Edge UWB: %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8 bbwe!MicrosoftEdge

AFAI, you can instantly revive the old Edge simply by deleting the new Edge...
o C:\ cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\84.0.522.50\Insta ller\
o C:\ setup.exe --uninstall --system-level --force-uninstall --verbose-logging
https://i.postimg.cc/2SzGQkQZ/archive-installer.jpg

But the new Edge will come back with the next Windows Update, unless you
know which registry keys to change to allow peace & harmony among Edges.
o https://i.postimg.cc/QN6rbSQD/browser05.jpg

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate]
"DoNotUpdateToEdgeWithChromium"=dword:00000001

And

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Edg eUpdate]
"Allowsxs"=dword:00000001

The former prevents Windows Update from stepping on your browser of choice,
and the latter allows peaceful coexistence of the two Edges concurrently.
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