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  #46  
Old January 3rd 20, 07:11 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop
Wolffan[_3_]
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Default Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version

On 03 Jan 2020, David wrote
(in article ):

They laugh at me, too! ;-)


People laugh at you because you're a buffoon.

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  #47  
Old January 3rd 20, 07:56 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default [OT] tin on Mac. (was: Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version)

Snit wrote:
[...]

I started using Usenet with tin... in many ways it is better than the
crap I use now.


Have you looked at any of the relevant [1] builds at
http://tin.org/builds.html?

IOW, that you're a Mac user doesn't mean you can't run *decent*
software *on* it! :-)

Take me for example, I'm a poor (MS-)Windows user, but this post is
brought to you by courtesy of vi[m](1) and tin(1)!

[1] I don't know much about Macs, but AFAIK, you need one of the Darwin
builds, don't you?
  #48  
Old January 3rd 20, 08:06 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default [OT] tin on Mac. (was: Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version)

On 2020-01-03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Snit wrote:
[...]

I started using Usenet with tin... in many ways it is better than the
crap I use now.


Have you looked at any of the relevant [1] builds at
http://tin.org/builds.html?

IOW, that you're a Mac user doesn't mean you can't run *decent*
software *on* it! :-)


Heh, I used open source while I was using Windows
ad/spyware free, what else one wants ?

Take me for example, I'm a poor (MS-)Windows user, but this post is
brought to you by courtesy of vi[m](1) and tin(1)!

[1] I don't know much about Macs, but AFAIK, you need one of the Darwin
builds, don't you?



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  #49  
Old January 3rd 20, 08:10 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 3 Jan 2020 19:56:30 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:

Snit wrote:
[...]h

I started using Usenet with tin... in many ways it is better than the
crap I use now.


Have you looked at any of the relevant [1] builds at
http://tin.org/builds.html?

IOW, that you're a Mac user doesn't mean you can't run *decent*
software *on* it! :-)

Take me for example, I'm a poor (MS-)Windows user, but this post is
brought to you by courtesy of vi[m](1) and tin(1)!

[1] I don't know much about Macs, but AFAIK, you need one of the Darwin
builds, don't you?


Tin?
Holy crap Fred Flintstone!
Tin makes slrn look modern.

What a joke.

Unless of course you long for the days of paper tape, punched cards
and DecWriters.
And many Linux dweebs do, which is why they run Linux in the first
place!
  #50  
Old January 3rd 20, 08:10 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Snit[_2_]
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Default [OT] tin on Mac.

On 1/3/20 1:06 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2020-01-03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Snit wrote:
[...]

I started using Usenet with tin... in many ways it is better than the
crap I use now.


Have you looked at any of the relevant [1] builds at
http://tin.org/builds.html?

IOW, that you're a Mac user doesn't mean you can't run *decent*
software *on* it! :-)


Heh, I used open source while I was using Windows
ad/spyware free, what else one wants ?


I use open source on macOS... and much of what Apple supplies by default
is open source.

Take me for example, I'm a poor (MS-)Windows user, but this post is
brought to you by courtesy of vi[m](1) and tin(1)!

[1] I don't know much about Macs, but AFAIK, you need one of the Darwin
builds, don't you?





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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
  #51  
Old January 3rd 20, 08:12 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Snit[_2_]
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Default [OT] tin on Mac.

On 1/3/20 12:56 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Snit wrote:
[...]

I started using Usenet with tin... in many ways it is better than the
crap I use now.


Have you looked at any of the relevant [1] builds at
http://tin.org/builds.html?

IOW, that you're a Mac user doesn't mean you can't run *decent*
software *on* it! :-)

Take me for example, I'm a poor (MS-)Windows user, but this post is
brought to you by courtesy of vi[m](1) and tin(1)!

[1] I don't know much about Macs, but AFAIK, you need one of the Darwin
builds, don't you?


As far as I know all versions of macOS are on Darwin of one version or
another.

I have looked into running tin but never done it -- would not be hard
but would have to install brew which I have just never done. From what I
have seen it is completely safe to do so, though it might have to be
re-installed on OS updates.

And would be easy to do:

http://macappstore.org/tin/

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
  #52  
Old January 3rd 20, 08:53 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Snit[_2_]
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Default Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version

On 1/3/20 1:10 PM, Tig Welder wrote:
On 3 Jan 2020 19:56:30 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:

Snit wrote:
[...]h

I started using Usenet with tin... in many ways it is better than the
crap I use now.


Have you looked at any of the relevant [1] builds at
http://tin.org/builds.html?

IOW, that you're a Mac user doesn't mean you can't run *decent*
software *on* it! :-)

Take me for example, I'm a poor (MS-)Windows user, but this post is
brought to you by courtesy of vi[m](1) and tin(1)!

[1] I don't know much about Macs, but AFAIK, you need one of the Darwin
builds, don't you?


Tin?
Holy crap Fred Flintstone!
Tin makes slrn look modern.


Well, I was using it in the 1980s and '90s.

What a joke.

Unless of course you long for the days of paper tape, punched cards
and DecWriters.
And many Linux dweebs do, which is why they run Linux in the first
place!




--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
  #53  
Old January 3rd 20, 09:20 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10
David
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On 03/01/2020 17:25, Snit wrote:
[....]
How about we all just use what we like and speak of the pros and cons
without attacking each other for having a different preference?


I very much like that sentiment, Snit. :-)

Are you aware of this new software? https://www.usenapp.com

It seems to be coming along very well. I have a distinct impression that
it may well end up being highly successful.

Are there any Apple Usenet groups which you support/recommend?

--
David


  #54  
Old January 3rd 20, 09:33 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Snit[_2_]
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Default Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version

On 1/3/20 2:20 PM, David wrote:
On 03/01/2020 17:25, Snit wrote:
[....]
How about we all just use what we like and speak of the pros and cons
without attacking each other for having a different preference?


I very much like that sentiment, Snit. :-)

Are you aware of this new software? https://www.usenapp.com


No, but the screenshot looks good! Applied to be a beta tester.

It seems to be coming along very well. I have a distinct impression that
it may well end up being highly successful.

Are there any Apple Usenet groups which you support/recommend?


I wish... still occasionally read and post to COLA but it is utter rubbish.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
  #55  
Old January 3rd 20, 09:38 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version

In article , David
wrote:

Are there any Apple Usenet groups which you support/recommend?


you've already infested all of them.
  #56  
Old January 3rd 20, 09:46 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Diesel
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David
Thu, 02 Jan 2020 16:45:36 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 02/01/2020 15:54, Tig Welder wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comm...y_linux_sucks/

Why Linux Sucks
It is ugly out of the box

Linux has been largely used in the server scenario, yet there are
many deluded morons out there who think it can compete against
both Windows and Mac OS when it comes to desktop usage. If you
have ever used Linux, you know what I’m talking about: it is
EXTREMELY ugly. Not to mention the bad UX, I have had many
crashes using both Ubuntu and Fedora. Never tried Arch or Gentoo,
I just don’t get why ****tards use these distros, maybe they
think they are 100% anonymous and their data won’t be collected
anymore, or they feel superior because they use a different
package manager and went through a command-line installation
(LMFAO).


I've ran linux mint and MX linux for several years now non stop, as
fulltime desktop OSes. I have a single native Windows PC present on
the network; and it's about to be migrated to Linux too or possibly
retired after all these years. It might still make a suitable file
server, though.

I haven't had any real issues to speak of in the entire time I've
been using linux. KDE looks great to me - which is why I still have
Mint 17.3 G - I don't like the MX linux default GUI nearly as much,
but it's not a deal breaker either.

2. Mistakenly claimed as “stable”

Debian is where Linux started, and where it should have ended.
There are many retards out there who claim that Debian 10 is the
“GOD of stability”. This is ****ing hilarious, I have NEVER
had any crashes using Windows 10 on VirtualBox and NEVER had any
BSODS or stuttering on my Windows 10 workstation, however when I
decided to deploy a Debian 10 VM the GUI won’t simply appear. I
tried again, and again and again until it simply won’t work at
all and I was just being fooled, but that’s what Linux is all
about – a ****ing joke.


I don't know what this individuals hardware is, but, I've got linux
running here on quite a variety of stuff, made by a variety of
different manufacturers and both of the linux distro's have been
chugging along just fine. This is stuff from Dell, tyan, gigabyte,
asus, nvidia, ati, Amd, and Intel. I've got quite a mix of desktop
(towers) and laptops here.

No issues to report with any of them. Everything works as expected.
Nvidia drivers are loaded and working; despite being proprietary.

I'm not a gamer though, unless you count retro gaming and/or
emulation; so linux meets my entertainment needs as well. If you're
into the latest online games on a PC though, linux probably isn't for
you.

I have a background as a technician too, so that didn't make the
linux process harder for me. That being said, with the modern
distro's, I don't think you need to be a tech to get them installed
and loaded. If you can put windows 10 on a box, you shouldn't have
trouble with a modern linux distro.

There will always be that guy who says they have an Amiga at home
and a Linux workstation and server, and left it turned on for
years. If you believe people who claim nonsensical bull**** like
this, you should really go see a shrink (one can easily fake the
uptime of their machine).


The longest uptime I had was 1.3 years, and I would have had more had
the UPS batteries not **** on me. [g]

Linux users, **** straight off.


Okay. So, if you're using a modern car that's all touch screen, it's
probably got linux under the hood. As well as your router and other
networking gear. Feel free to junk that linux powered trash and go
back to the stuff you used previously. Don't worry about
vulnerabilities, etc. The manufacturers will eventually get around to
making firmware modifications to their proprietary non linux stuff to
get you 'secure' again.

Written by another Senior .NET Developer and Microsoft Fanboy on
Microsoft Word 2019, brought to you by Microsoft.


a true sucker.

A great post!


What of the post did you understand?



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  #57  
Old January 3rd 20, 09:46 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Thu, 02 Jan 2020
17:34:56 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

In article , John Wesley Harding
wrote:

And, with mobile phones, Linux has taken over the world.


no it hasn't.


Pretty much it has.

android is not a full linux distro. it's the linux kernel, with
android built on top of it. all apps are written to android apis,
not linux.


LINUX itself IS ONLY the kernel. Android is just as much a linux distro
as redhat, slack, debian, mint, etc are.


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  #58  
Old January 3rd 20, 09:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 21:20:11 +0000, David wrote:

Are you aware of this new software? https://www.usenapp.com


"Pan" is the standard usenet client under MX 19. It is also available for
Mac: https://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/

This is my first posting with "Pan". I'm coming from a rather old version
of Agent (Windows). I have to admit that even this old version (Agent
1.8) has more options and seems to be a bit more comfortable that "Pan".
E. g. I don't see a way to "keep" messages in "Pan" when the regular
purging is happening. But 15 years ago or I paid for Agent. Pan is free.

Regards

M.
  #59  
Old January 3rd 20, 10:25 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
William Poaster[_4_]
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 16:48:12 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2020-01-03, Tig Welder wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 00:44:45 +0000, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 03/01/2020 00:01, Jasen Betts wrote:
probably some sort of windows font bug.



Probably it is what psychologists call " Self-fulfilling prophecy " on
your part so I suggest take this crap to your Linux Junk newsgroup as
Windows has what you call some sort of font bug.

Surely, you don't want to hang out with Windows users who have some sort
of bug as you have managed to diagnose them from your basement apartment
window.


The funny part is he is using slrn which is a throwback to the 1970's
and a DEC VT100 terminal.
Every option, including colors, are controlled by a text configuration
file .slrnrc.


Guess what. I find article navigation clunky and slow with GUI newsreader
... with keyboard I am much faster and don't waste time on clicks...

So if you want to change the color of the text for example you need to
edit the file and add something like CYAN to it, then save, restart
slrn, rinse and repeat 100 times until you find a combination you like.


So what? How many times you change color of text?


Also slrn needs a helper application like slrnpull or leafnode to read
offline. Otherwise it downloads one article at a time as you read them.


That's much better with broadband internet.

Very slow, especially considering it's a cli application.


Bull****.


Linux worshipers wear slrn like some badge of intelligence because they
were able to configure and use it. Doesn't matter that it's a God awful
program still left in the 70's, the complexity, especially when coupled
with the editor vi or emacs makes them feel superior.


Guess what, with vim and slrn I am much faster.


It's one reason why Linux users are considered dysfunctional. There are
many more of course but we can leave that for another day.


I guess NASA, CERN, Fermilab, SpaceX, Microsoft (Azure), US Navy
submarines, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, New York Stock Exchange, US Postal
Service, Schools, colleges and Universities in Russia, Germany,
Philippines, Georgia, Switzerland, Italy, India are all dysfunctional
then.

Click click click.... dysfunctional dumb Windows user...


They're dumber than bricks.
  #60  
Old January 3rd 20, 10:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
David
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On 03/01/2020 21:47, Michael Logies wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 21:20:11 +0000, David wrote:

Are you aware of this new software? https://www.usenapp.com


"Pan" is the standard usenet client under MX 19. It is also available for
Mac: https://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/


There appears to be a problem with that page:- https://imgur.com/yz2iZja

This is my first posting with "Pan". I'm coming from a rather old version
of Agent (Windows). I have to admit that even this old version (Agent
1.8) has more options and seems to be a bit more comfortable that "Pan".
E. g. I don't see a way to "keep" messages in "Pan" when the regular
purging is happening. But 15 years ago or I paid for Agent. Pan is free.

Regards

M.


Thanks, Michael. Some years ago I spent many hours trying to get Pan to
work satisfactorily on my iMac - and I couldn't do it. :-(

Thunderbird and SeaMonkey work fairly well for me.

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