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January 23rd 17, 05:54 PM
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Folks say Google saves all that you do or visit.
I thought that referred to Chrome. What about FireFox private mode or Pale Moon ? How does that all work 
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January 23rd 17, 08:13 PM
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Folks say Google saves all that you do or visit. I thought that referred to Chrome. What about FireFox private mode or Pale Moon ? How does that all work Google has the ability to save everything they see... which is a lot. - If you go to any Google-owned site, they can track it. - If you go to any site that uses Google ads, they can track it. - If you do anything with Google software, they can track it. Note that I say they *can*, not necessarily that they *do*... but from a business perspective, they would be stupid not to. (There are things you can do to reduce how much Google sees of your activities, but some of them can be a PITA.) -- I'm a bacon expert. I know I am because so many people call me a swine.
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January 23rd 17, 09:56 PM
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AIOEUser says... Folks say Google saves all that you do or visit. I thought that referred to Chrome. What about FireFox private mode or Pale Moon ? How does that all work I think you're talking about the search engine? - Google? It does quite a bit of tracking. DuckduckGo does not, so they say... https://duckduckgo.com/privacy I think Chrome is the best browser out there, and you can run that in a reasonably private mode, which Google calls an Incognito window. You can start that from Chrome's wee menu, top-right - or press Ctrl ShiftN -- Duncan.
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January 23rd 17, 11:34 PM
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Sorry I was not clear.
But yes the question was supposed to be if I am using FireFox private mode and use the Google search engine does it track and if so what does it log about the user?
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January 24th 17, 01:35 AM
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| But yes the question was supposed to be if I am using FireFox private | mode and use the Google search engine does it track and if so what does | it log about the user? | That's a complex issue. Chrome calls home. I don't know exactly what Firefox private mode is. No cookies? It's not so simple. Google spies on anything they possibly can. That's their business. Say you use DuckDuckGo, never visit Google, don't use Chrome or GMail. Then you visit a website. That site probably has Google ads. It probably has Google analytics code. It probably loads fonts from Google. It probably loads javascript from Google. That's all just with sites that have no official connection to Google. Then there's Facebook. There are analytics and tracking companies. Ad companies. There's a good chance that normal people online are being fully monitored by several companies at any given time. Then there's the sites themselves. New York times, for instance, spies on what you read. That's the whole point of getting people to log in. Even without logging in, they require cookies. You can't deal with privacy realistically unless you read up on how it all works. And maybe try Ghostery to see who's watching. The following is a list of URLs I block in my HOSTS file that are *all* Google. They're remarkably clever about coming up with new spying techniques. (The asterisks work only because I use Acrylic DNS HOSTS file): 127.0.0.1 *.googlesyndication.com 127.0.0.1 *.googleadservices.com 127.0.0.1 *.googlecommerce.com 127.0.0.1 *.scorecardresearch.com 127.0.0.1 1e100.com 127.0.0.1 1e100.net 127.0.0.1 *.1e100.com 127.0.0.1 *.1e100.net 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com 127.0.0.1 *.googletagservices.com 127.0.0.1 *.googletagmanager.com 127.0.0.1 *.google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 fonts.googleapis.com 127.0.0.1 googleadapis.l.google.com 127.0.0.1 ssl.gstatic.com 127.0.0.1 plusone.google.com 127.0.0.1 cse.google.com 127.0.0.1 www.google.com/cse
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January 24th 17, 09:03 AM
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January 24th 17, 09:48 AM
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In article ,
, Dave Doe says... In article , , Dave Doe says... In article , , AIOEUser says... Sorry I was not clear. But yes the question was supposed to be if I am using FireFox private mode and use the Google search engine does it track and if so what does it log about the user? Yes, Google search does. It uses this info (well so they say  to improve their search results. ie they want to know where you are, what browser you're using etc. I guess it does help 'em. I imagine, like Google Chrome, you can get Firefox to use Duckduckgo as the default search engine. Have a looksee. For more info, install Wireshark and set it up to log your PC internet http traffic. Don't start it logging yet. Turn internet everything off on your PC to make life easy (lots of other things probably use http). Load Firefox and load a private Firefox window too. Start logging. On each, use Google and Duckduckgo. Stop logging and examine the results. Let us know! https://www.wireshark.org/ I think you can scrap my idea both Duckduckgo and Google are SSL (secure)  -- Duncan.
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January 24th 17, 03:36 PM
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Does using a Tor Browser (Firefox with Tor downloaded from the Tor site)
mitigate ?
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January 24th 17, 03:45 PM
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| Does using a Tor Browser (Firefox with Tor downloaded from the Tor site) | mitigate ? | You're looking for a quick and easy answer. There isn't one. Yes, Tor can help in one way, by hiding your IP address. Do you understand what that means?
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January 24th 17, 07:10 PM
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:48:07 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:
In article , , Dave Doe says... In article , , Dave Doe says... In article , , AIOEUser says... Sorry I was not clear. But yes the question was supposed to be if I am using FireFox private mode and use the Google search engine does it track and if so what does it log about the user? Yes, Google search does. It uses this info (well so they say to improve their search results. ie they want to know where you are, what browser you're using etc. I guess it does help 'em. I imagine, like Google Chrome, you can get Firefox to use Duckduckgo as the default search engine. Have a looksee. For more info, install Wireshark and set it up to log your PC internet http traffic. Don't start it logging yet. Turn internet everything off on your PC to make life easy (lots of other things probably use http). Load Firefox and load a private Firefox window too. Start logging. On each, use Google and Duckduckgo. Stop logging and examine the results. Let us know! https://www.wireshark.org/ I think you can scrap my idea both Duckduckgo and Google are SSL (secure) Two words: proxy, ssldump -- Char Jackson
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January 24th 17, 11:53 PM
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lid, Char Jackson says... On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:48:07 +1300, Dave Doe wrote: In article , , Dave Doe says... In article , , Dave Doe says... In article , , AIOEUser says... Sorry I was not clear. But yes the question was supposed to be if I am using FireFox private mode and use the Google search engine does it track and if so what does it log about the user? Yes, Google search does. It uses this info (well so they say to improve their search results. ie they want to know where you are, what browser you're using etc. I guess it does help 'em. I imagine, like Google Chrome, you can get Firefox to use Duckduckgo as the default search engine. Have a looksee. For more info, install Wireshark and set it up to log your PC internet http traffic. Don't start it logging yet. Turn internet everything off on your PC to make life easy (lots of other things probably use http). Load Firefox and load a private Firefox window too. Start logging. On each, use Google and Duckduckgo. Stop logging and examine the results. Let us know! https://www.wireshark.org/ I think you can scrap my idea both Duckduckgo and Google are SSL (secure) Two words: proxy, ssldump That would be fine if the certficate key was private/mine. -- Duncan.
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January 25th 17, 09:57 PM
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On 23/01/2017 17:54, AIOEUser wrote:
Folks say Google saves all that you do or visit. I thought that referred to Chrome. What about FireFox private mode or Pale Moon ? How does that all work You may already be aware of this facility ....... ...... but maybe not! ;-) "Welcome to My Activity" https://myactivity.google.com/ -- "Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer)
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January 26th 17, 10:25 AM
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:03:16 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:
I imagine, like Google Chrome, you can get Firefox to use Duckduckgo as the default search engine. Have a looksee. You can. Or Startpage, which I use. There was some reason I chose it over DuckDuckGo, but that was some time ago and I can't remember why. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai...
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