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  #106  
Old June 13th 09, 04:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Gord Dibben
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Default How to increase system system performance

Excel does the same thing.

A temp file is created for each workbook opened.

When the workbook is closed the temp file is deleted.............most
timesg

With a workbook open browse to

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel

You will find an ~123x456.xar file


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:12:34 +0100, "Gordon"
wrote:


"Curious" wrote in message
...
I have never seen any evidence or even ever heard of Windows creating any
"Temp" files on any drive when loading an application. If you run Excel
it loads excel.exe in memory and then loads or creates a new .xls
spreadsheet file in memory there are no other/temp files created.


If you open a Word Document, Word will create a temp copy of the file in the
same folder that the original document exists. That's one of the main
reasons why users are advised NOT to open Word documents direct from
removable media....


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  #107  
Old June 13th 09, 04:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Gord Dibben
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Posts: 277
Default How to increase system system performance

Excel does the same thing.

A temp file is created for each workbook opened.

When the workbook is closed the temp file is deleted.............most
timesg

With a workbook open browse to

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel

You will find an ~123x456.xar file


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:12:34 +0100, "Gordon"
wrote:


"Curious" wrote in message
...
I have never seen any evidence or even ever heard of Windows creating any
"Temp" files on any drive when loading an application. If you run Excel
it loads excel.exe in memory and then loads or creates a new .xls
spreadsheet file in memory there are no other/temp files created.


If you open a Word Document, Word will create a temp copy of the file in the
same folder that the original document exists. That's one of the main
reasons why users are advised NOT to open Word documents direct from
removable media....


  #108  
Old June 13th 09, 05:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Curious
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Default How to increase system system performance

You are correct. I should not have used an Office product as an example of
what happens with any Windows based application since the Office
applications themselves create temp files as you describe.

"Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
Excel does the same thing.

A temp file is created for each workbook opened.

When the workbook is closed the temp file is deleted.............most
timesg

With a workbook open browse to

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel

You will find an ~123x456.xar file


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:12:34 +0100, "Gordon"
wrote:


"Curious" wrote in message
...
I have never seen any evidence or even ever heard of Windows creating
any
"Temp" files on any drive when loading an application. If you run Excel
it loads excel.exe in memory and then loads or creates a new .xls
spreadsheet file in memory there are no other/temp files created.


If you open a Word Document, Word will create a temp copy of the file in
the
same folder that the original document exists. That's one of the main
reasons why users are advised NOT to open Word documents direct from
removable media....


  #109  
Old June 13th 09, 05:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Curious
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Default How to increase system system performance

You are correct. I should not have used an Office product as an example of
what happens with any Windows based application since the Office
applications themselves create temp files as you describe.

"Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
Excel does the same thing.

A temp file is created for each workbook opened.

When the workbook is closed the temp file is deleted.............most
timesg

With a workbook open browse to

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel

You will find an ~123x456.xar file


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:12:34 +0100, "Gordon"
wrote:


"Curious" wrote in message
...
I have never seen any evidence or even ever heard of Windows creating
any
"Temp" files on any drive when loading an application. If you run Excel
it loads excel.exe in memory and then loads or creates a new .xls
spreadsheet file in memory there are no other/temp files created.


If you open a Word Document, Word will create a temp copy of the file in
the
same folder that the original document exists. That's one of the main
reasons why users are advised NOT to open Word documents direct from
removable media....


  #110  
Old June 13th 09, 06:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Patrick Keenan
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Default How to increase system system performance


"Tae Song" wrote in message
...

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Tae Song wrote:
I thought I would share this with you all, a few little tricks to boost
Windows performance.

If you have a spare USB flash drive or you are willing to get a cheap
say
1GB flash drive.

First we plug in the flash drive.

Go to Disk Manager and assign it a drive letter, like Z: (this is just
to
get it out of the way and optional)

Go to Advanced system settings, Evironment variables.

Change the Temp variable under User to Z:\ (I didn't see any point
creating
folders, but that's optional)

Change the Temp variable under System variable to Z:\

This will cut down on I/O traffic to the hard drive. Starting an app
like
Word, would cause the HD to read the program into memory while at the
same
time writing into the drive, temporary files. This causes an I/O queue
to
form and degrade Windows performance. By off loading some of the I/O
traffic to another storage device, the hard drive read/write head
doesn't
have to move around as much either. All performance gains.


I don't think so!! There will be a performance LOSS, in large part due
to the much longer write times to a flash drive. Also, it's generally a
poor idea to have so many continuous writes to a flash drive, as flash
drives have a more limited number of write cycles.

snip rest of this post


You don't need an extremely high write speed. A lot of times temp files
are just empty files, many are 0 bytes. Almost all are under 700KB. Even
at a write speed of of say a low of 5MB/s is still only a fraction of a
sec.

This keeps the read/write head from thrashing about creating and updating
file records.

And just to up the ante, I enabled disk compression on the USB drives to
reduce the size of the writes.


Reducing the size of the writes won't affect the time it takes and certainly
will not alter the fact that Flash technology has a limited number of write
cycles. If you're using it as a temp drive, you are ensuring that a flash
drive will fail *sooner* rather than later.

Flash drives aren't appropriate for filesystem utility use. They can only
be relied on for convenient transfer of data that exists elsewhere.

  #111  
Old June 13th 09, 06:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Patrick Keenan
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Posts: 4,415
Default How to increase system system performance


"Tae Song" wrote in message
...

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Tae Song wrote:
I thought I would share this with you all, a few little tricks to boost
Windows performance.

If you have a spare USB flash drive or you are willing to get a cheap
say
1GB flash drive.

First we plug in the flash drive.

Go to Disk Manager and assign it a drive letter, like Z: (this is just
to
get it out of the way and optional)

Go to Advanced system settings, Evironment variables.

Change the Temp variable under User to Z:\ (I didn't see any point
creating
folders, but that's optional)

Change the Temp variable under System variable to Z:\

This will cut down on I/O traffic to the hard drive. Starting an app
like
Word, would cause the HD to read the program into memory while at the
same
time writing into the drive, temporary files. This causes an I/O queue
to
form and degrade Windows performance. By off loading some of the I/O
traffic to another storage device, the hard drive read/write head
doesn't
have to move around as much either. All performance gains.


I don't think so!! There will be a performance LOSS, in large part due
to the much longer write times to a flash drive. Also, it's generally a
poor idea to have so many continuous writes to a flash drive, as flash
drives have a more limited number of write cycles.

snip rest of this post


You don't need an extremely high write speed. A lot of times temp files
are just empty files, many are 0 bytes. Almost all are under 700KB. Even
at a write speed of of say a low of 5MB/s is still only a fraction of a
sec.

This keeps the read/write head from thrashing about creating and updating
file records.

And just to up the ante, I enabled disk compression on the USB drives to
reduce the size of the writes.


Reducing the size of the writes won't affect the time it takes and certainly
will not alter the fact that Flash technology has a limited number of write
cycles. If you're using it as a temp drive, you are ensuring that a flash
drive will fail *sooner* rather than later.

Flash drives aren't appropriate for filesystem utility use. They can only
be relied on for convenient transfer of data that exists elsewhere.

 




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