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Old December 7th 05, 05:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't know
how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw it
and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes. When
she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She explained
that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to enter
to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says found
new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I do
the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you that
I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if you
are going to build your own computer.




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Old December 7th 05, 06:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

Bull ****
"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't
know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw
it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes.
When she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She
explained that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to
enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says found
new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I do
the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you
that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if you
are going to build your own computer.






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Old December 7th 05, 06:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

Product Activation Facts
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_faq.mspx

Windows XP Product Activation
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Mark Smith" wrote:

| About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
| defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
| and easy. Well guess what.
|
| I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
| effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
| Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.
|
| Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't know
| how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
| automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.
|
| Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
| realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw it
| and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes. When
| she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She explained
| that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.
|
| I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
| had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
| through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.
|
| She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
| digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to enter
| to reactivate.
|
| This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
| through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?
|
| The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says found
| new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.
|
| Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
| disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
| this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I do
| the DVD writer at the same time.
|
| How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you that
| I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!
|
| When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
| disclaimer on it:
|
| WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if you
| are going to build your own computer.

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Old December 7th 05, 06:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

Oh I just remembered. I got 1gig of ram coming too. I am sure that will
cause a red flag regarding activation.


"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't
know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw
it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes.
When she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She
explained that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to
enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says found
new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I do
the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you
that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if you
are going to build your own computer.






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Old December 7th 05, 06:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

----- Original Message -----
From: "BigJIm"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:01 AM
Subject: Activation-How do I stop the insanity?


Bull ****



All my phone calls are taped. I will soon be putting a copy of the phone
call online. Stay tuned.

BTW, thank you for your professionalism and intellectual response.


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Old December 7th 05, 06:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

Mark Smith wrote:

About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't know
how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw it
and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes. When
she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She explained
that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to enter
to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says found
new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I do
the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you that
I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if you
are going to build your own computer.





It wouldn't activate online?

Weird.

Just goes to show, once again, that activation only inconveniences the
paying customers whilst the crackers just go about their cracking and
laughing the whole time.

Alias
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Old December 7th 05, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

Product Activation Facts
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_faq.mspx

Windows XP Product Activation
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php

According to your links, the OP shouldn't have had to activate. Can you
explain why he had to?

Thanks,

Alias
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Old December 7th 05, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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"Alias" wrote in
Mark Smith wrote:
It wouldn't activate online?
Weird.


No, no. I am sure it would have activated online had I typed in those long
digits. I was so frustrated and new I had new hardware coming that I decided
to call instead. Obiviously typing would have been faster, and next time
that is what I will do.


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Old December 7th 05, 09:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?


Mark Smith wrote:
"Alias" wrote in

Mark Smith wrote:
It wouldn't activate online?
Weird.



No, no. I am sure it would have activated online had I typed in those long
digits. I was so frustrated and new I had new hardware coming that I decided
to call instead. Obiviously typing would have been faster, and next time
that is what I will do.



Since you are not paying for the telephone call (to an 800
number), then make it as often as you like. Microsoft has to
pay for these calls. It is your privilege to do so.
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Old December 7th 05, 09:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

How to get around the activation problems:
How to format/reinstall Windows without having to Register or Activate.

Keep your activation status intact when reinstalling XP

Have you ever wanted to reformat the hard disk and reinstall Windows XP on a
system but you did not want to mess around with Microsoft's Product
Activation after the reinstall? Fortunately, you do not have to. As long as
you are not making any hardware alterations, you can back up the activation
status files before you reformat the hard drive and then restore them after
you reinstall the operating system.

To perform the backup, follow these steps:

1. Use Windows Explorer to open the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
2. Copy the Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files to a floppy disk or CD.

To perform the restore, follow these steps:

1. Decline the activation request at the end of the installation procedure,
and restart Windows XP.
2. During boot up, press F8 to access the Windows Advanced Options menu.
3. Choose the Safe Mode (SAFEBOOT_OPTION=Minimal) option.
4. Use Windows Explorer to open the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
5. If they exist, rename the new Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files to Wpadbl.new and
Wpabak.new.
6. Copy the original Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files from the floppy disk or CD to
the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
7. Restart the system.



--
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XP Home SP2 Fully Updated
P4 HT @ 3.0ghz, 360gb HDD, 2.0gb DDR.
"Mark Smith" wrote in message
.. .
"Alias" wrote in
Mark Smith wrote:
It wouldn't activate online?
Weird.


No, no. I am sure it would have activated online had I typed in those long
digits. I was so frustrated and new I had new hardware coming that I
decided to call instead. Obiviously typing would have been faster, and
next time that is what I will do.



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Old December 7th 05, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

Thank you for replying, but I have to be honest. This process below will
take just as long as doing activation online.

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
How to get around the activation problems:
How to format/reinstall Windows without having to Register or Activate.

Keep your activation status intact when reinstalling XP

Have you ever wanted to reformat the hard disk and reinstall Windows XP on
a system but you did not want to mess around with Microsoft's Product
Activation after the reinstall? Fortunately, you do not have to. As long
as you are not making any hardware alterations, you can back up the
activation status files before you reformat the hard drive and then
restore them after you reinstall the operating system.

To perform the backup, follow these steps:

1. Use Windows Explorer to open the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
2. Copy the Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files to a floppy disk or CD.

To perform the restore, follow these steps:

1. Decline the activation request at the end of the installation
procedure, and restart Windows XP.
2. During boot up, press F8 to access the Windows Advanced Options menu.
3. Choose the Safe Mode (SAFEBOOT_OPTION=Minimal) option.
4. Use Windows Explorer to open the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
5. If they exist, rename the new Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files to Wpadbl.new
and Wpabak.new.
6. Copy the original Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files from the floppy disk or CD
to the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
7. Restart the system.



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XP Home SP2 Fully Updated
P4 HT @ 3.0ghz, 360gb HDD, 2.0gb DDR.
"Mark Smith" wrote in message news:%23fDHK%231%



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Old December 7th 05, 10:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

True ;-)

--
Peter
XP Home SP2 Fully Updated
P4 HT @ 3.0ghz, 360gb HDD, 2.0gb DDR.
"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
Thank you for replying, but I have to be honest. This process below will
take just as long as doing activation online.

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
How to get around the activation problems:
How to format/reinstall Windows without having to Register or Activate.

Keep your activation status intact when reinstalling XP

Have you ever wanted to reformat the hard disk and reinstall Windows XP
on a system but you did not want to mess around with Microsoft's Product
Activation after the reinstall? Fortunately, you do not have to. As long
as you are not making any hardware alterations, you can back up the
activation status files before you reformat the hard drive and then
restore them after you reinstall the operating system.

To perform the backup, follow these steps:

1. Use Windows Explorer to open the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
2. Copy the Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files to a floppy disk or CD.

To perform the restore, follow these steps:

1. Decline the activation request at the end of the installation
procedure, and restart Windows XP.
2. During boot up, press F8 to access the Windows Advanced Options menu.
3. Choose the Safe Mode (SAFEBOOT_OPTION=Minimal) option.
4. Use Windows Explorer to open the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
5. If they exist, rename the new Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files to Wpadbl.new
and Wpabak.new.
6. Copy the original Wpa.dbl and Wpa.bak files from the floppy disk or CD
to the C:\Windows\System32 folder.
7. Restart the system.



--
Peter
XP Home SP2 Fully Updated
P4 HT @ 3.0ghz, 360gb HDD, 2.0gb DDR.
"Mark Smith" wrote in message news:%23fDHK%231%





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Old December 7th 05, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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In message "Mark Smith"
wrote:

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw it
and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes.


That was rather stupid of you. You could have completed activation
within that 4 minute window you were on hold.

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Old December 7th 05, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

I had questions to ask the tech....if you had read the rest of my post. And
how would I know how long it would take seeing as how this was the first
time the process took place?

Keep up the good work with your witty and scholarly replies, okay?

"DevilsPGD" wrote in That was rather stupid
of you. You could have completed activation
within that 4 minute window you were on hold.



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Old December 8th 05, 12:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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"Mark Smith" wrote:

About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't know
how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw it
and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes. When
she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She explained
that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to enter
to reactivate.


Have you read the article on activation by the late Alex Nichol MVP at
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm ?

That explains how the activation process works, and indicates which
specific hardware components are monitored for changes.

It is important to realize that the hardware changes are cumulative
since the last actual activation, so that it can be a single,
seemingly quite trivial, hardware change such as adding more RAM or
replacing the CDROM drive that can trigger the need to reactivate.

Good luck
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
 




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