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  #16  
Old February 20th 12, 03:25 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2/18/2012 9:07 PM, SC Tom wrote:

"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
...

I may be going by a Best Buy store in awhile. That's who I bought it
froml. Maybe they know.

According to site
http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/...3913Rsp2.shtml
yours should have the same touchpad as mine. Did your laptop come with
Windows 7, or did you upgrade it from Vista? If an upgrade, then you
would need to install the Gateway Synaptics driver to see it in Mouse
settings. If you look here

I had Win 7 put on about 3 weeks ago. XP Pro 32bit (I think) was the
forerunner. I think I'm on Win 7 pro.
http://support.gateway.com/us/en/pro...umber=1013913R
you'll
see there are no Windows 7 drivers for that laptop; you can install the
Vista one for your version, and then follow the instructions I posted.
The pretty much what I did with mine since there were no Windows 7
drivers for mine either.


Maybe I can put paper across it with scotch tape. :-)

I the driver link for XP Pro had a touchpad driver, but no messages
there from you. The drive shows x64.


Use the Vista 64-bit driver. This is the download link:

http://global-download.gateway.com/G...EBOOK&Step2=MX
SERIES&Step3=MX6450&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=GATEWAY&SC=PA_ 6G

or the tiny.url link if that one doesn't show well:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/8833tgp

The "preview" shows you where it's going so you can verify that really
IS where it's going :-)

I do not understand this. I went to preview.tnyurl.....

I did get the driver down, but have not applied it. Shouldn't I save
the old driver somehow?
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  #17  
Old February 20th 12, 03:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2/19/2012 9:37 AM, SC Tom wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , W. eWatson
writes:
On 2/18/2012 12:34 PM, SC Tom wrote:


"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began
using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4
years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and
the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new
window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the
pad?

[]
Ah, touchpad, not keypad. OK, I went there are no Device tabs.
Pointers, Pointer Options, Wheels, Hardware. OK, I'm on Hardware.
I've looked here before. I an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible
Mouse under devices. No touchpad.

[]
If you see (I presume the word "see" is missing from the above!) "an
HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse", after plugging in your
mouse (you say you are using "the mouse", so I presume you are
plugging one in), then one of those probably _is_ the touchpad; after
all, for most software, it functions as a mouse. Try disabling each of
those! (I suspect it'll be the PS/2 one.) [Don't disable both - that
includes making sure the re-enabled one has started working again - if
you find it's the wrong one, unless you're familiar with how to use
the computer without a mouse; it's usually possible, but many people
these days don't know how to.]

Alternatively, and you'll kick yourself if you have something similar:
on this Samsung NC-20, Fn-F10 toggles he touchpad on and off ... (-:


I wish mine had that, or like my old Compaq had, an on/off pushbutton
right above the touchpad.

According to the manual for the OP's laptop, there IS a Fn toggle for
the touchpad (I missed that earlier). It shows a finger touching a
rectangular box with a "not" circle on it. Unfortunately, it doesn't
show a picture of the keyboard clear enough to tell which key it is. It
seems to be between the "Screen Blank" and "Play" F-keys, but doesn't
state definitively which ones they are; it just shows the icons to look
for.

I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every
blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to indicate the pad was
disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I
had to press the power button to get on. Then I got a little rattled
again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried
typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My wife
noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right key. It has a rectangle
with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It didn't help.


Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site.
  #18  
Old February 20th 12, 05:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"W. eWatson" wrote in message ...
On 2/19/2012 9:37 AM, SC Tom wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , W. eWatson
writes:
On 2/18/2012 12:34 PM, SC Tom wrote:


"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began
using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4
years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and
the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new
window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the
pad?
[]
Ah, touchpad, not keypad. OK, I went there are no Device tabs.
Pointers, Pointer Options, Wheels, Hardware. OK, I'm on Hardware.
I've looked here before. I an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible
Mouse under devices. No touchpad.
[]
If you see (I presume the word "see" is missing from the above!) "an
HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse", after plugging in your
mouse (you say you are using "the mouse", so I presume you are
plugging one in), then one of those probably _is_ the touchpad; after
all, for most software, it functions as a mouse. Try disabling each of
those! (I suspect it'll be the PS/2 one.) [Don't disable both - that
includes making sure the re-enabled one has started working again - if
you find it's the wrong one, unless you're familiar with how to use
the computer without a mouse; it's usually possible, but many people
these days don't know how to.]

Alternatively, and you'll kick yourself if you have something similar:
on this Samsung NC-20, Fn-F10 toggles he touchpad on and off ... (-:


I wish mine had that, or like my old Compaq had, an on/off pushbutton
right above the touchpad.

According to the manual for the OP's laptop, there IS a Fn toggle for
the touchpad (I missed that earlier). It shows a finger touching a
rectangular box with a "not" circle on it. Unfortunately, it doesn't
show a picture of the keyboard clear enough to tell which key it is. It
seems to be between the "Screen Blank" and "Play" F-keys, but doesn't
state definitively which ones they are; it just shows the icons to look
for.

I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to
indicate the pad was disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I had to press the power
button to get on. Then I got a little rattled again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried
typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My wife noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right
key. It has a rectangle with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It didn't help.


Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site.


Here's the link to your stuff:

http://support.gateway.com/us/en/pro...1&modelId=3143

Go to the User Guides tab. Get the ones you want. In typical Gateway support fashion, all the zip files are the same
name, so change the name as you download, or unzip them one at a time, then overwrite the first zip on the next
download.

I'm sorry I misled you on the Fn key to disable the touchpad; I was helping someone else with their NV laptop, and that
was the manual I was looking at, not yours.

To answer your other question about the driver installation, you really don't have a full driver installed, or the
touchpad would show in Control Panel, whether under the Mouse item or Synaptics itself. You're basically running the
generic Windows 7 touchpad driver, which is probably why it's not showing up anywhere. By installing the Gateway driver,
you'll have the option to enable/disable it, adjust the sensitivity, scroll speed, etc., just like you can with a real
mouse.
--
SC Tom

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Old February 20th 12, 05:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site.


Here's the link to your stuff:

http://support.gateway.com/us/en/pro...1&modelId=3143

Go to the User Guides tab. Get the ones you want. In typical Gateway
support fashion, all the zip files are the same name, so change the name
as you download, or unzip them one at a time, then overwrite the first
zip on the next download.

I'm sorry I misled you on the Fn key to disable the touchpad; I was
helping someone else with their NV laptop, and that was the manual I was
looking at, not yours.

To answer your other question about the driver installation, you really
don't have a full driver installed, or the touchpad would show in
Control Panel, whether under the Mouse item or Synaptics itself. You're
basically running the generic Windows 7 touchpad driver, which is
probably why it's not showing up anywhere. By installing the Gateway
driver, you'll have the option to enable/disable it, adjust the
sensitivity, scroll speed, etc., just like you can with a real mouse.


I have an MX6453, but I guess 6450 is close enough. I don't see
anything in either manual about disabling with the keys. They seem to
have missed Scroll, Pause, Ins,Del.
  #20  
Old February 20th 12, 09:26 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , W. eWatson
writes:
[]
I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every
blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to indicate the pad was
disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I


(Did you find what that is _supposed_ to do?)

had to press the power button to get on. Then I got a little rattled
again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried
typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My
wife noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right key. It has a
rectangle with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It
didn't help.

I think that's display switch - switch between laptop screen and
external monitor, or toggle external monitor off/on, or cycle round
between external/laptop/both. Does rectangle-with-ellipse have another
rectangle under it, i. e. crude drawing of laptop?

Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site.


Have you tried just disabling one of your two mice (you said you had a
PS/2 and a HID one according to Display Manager) to see if one is the
touchpad?
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Old February 20th 12, 02:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began
using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4
years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the
cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window,
or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad?


Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I ended
up doing:

Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable)
Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel
Uninstalled the one that was left
Rebooted and plugged in the mouse
Touchpad gone!

  #22  
Old February 20th 12, 09:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2/20/2012 1:26 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , W. eWatson
writes:
[]
I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every
blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to indicate the pad was
disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I


(Did you find what that is _supposed_ to do?)

Exactly what it did. Took me off the laptop, and I had to signin.

had to press the power button to get on. Then I got a little rattled
again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried
typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My
wife noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right key. It has a
rectangle with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It
didn't help.

I think that's display switch - switch between laptop screen and
external monitor, or toggle external monitor off/on, or cycle round
between external/laptop/both. Does rectangle-with-ellipse have another
rectangle under it, i. e. crude drawing of laptop?

Nothing under them.

Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site.


Have you tried just disabling one of your two mice (you said you had a
PS/2 and a HID one according to Display Manager) to see if one is the
touchpad?

I only have one mouse. It's a Logitech.
  #23  
Old February 20th 12, 09:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2/20/2012 6:47 AM, Thip wrote:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began
using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4
years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and
the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new
window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the
pad?


Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I
ended up doing:

Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable)
Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel
Uninstalled the one that was left
Rebooted and plugged in the mouse
Touchpad gone!

Have you tried to restore the touchpad again to see if it works w/o the
mouse?
  #24  
Old February 20th 12, 10:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , W. eWatson
writes:
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Have you tried just disabling one of your two mice (you said you had a
PS/2 and a HID one according to Display Manager) to see if one is the
touchpad?

I only have one mouse. It's a Logitech.


Yes, I know you only have one mouse. But you said Device Manager (sorry
not Display Manager) said you had two, one HID (which stands for human
interface device) and one PS2.

As far as Windows and most of the applications you are running, you have
two mice. The mouse cursor can be moved, and things can be clicked and
right-clicked on; the fact that one of the devices that do these things
is actually a trackpad and not a mouse, in unknown to Windows, I
suspect.

Just try disabling (at a guess) the PS2 "mouse" in Device Manager. I
think there's a fair chance the trackpad will cease to function.
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Old February 20th 12, 10:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"W. eWatson" wrote in message
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Have you tried to restore the touchpad again to see if it works w/o the
mouse?


No. I hate touchpads.

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Old February 21st 12, 05:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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I think I've considered every suggestion in the other branch. Someone
mentioned touchpad blocker. It may work fine, but it is not free as far
as I can tell. Yes. it has a 30 day trial.

I just put a business card across the pad area, and unless I press down
fairly hard, it does not move the cursor. I think that will be my
solution. Now to find some scotch tape.

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Old February 21st 12, 11:19 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2/19/2012, J. P. Gilliver (John) posted:
In message , W. eWatson
writes:
On 2/18/2012 12:34 PM, SC Tom wrote:


"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began
using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4
years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and
the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new
window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the
pad?

[]
Ah, touchpad, not keypad. OK, I went there are no Device tabs. Pointers,
Pointer Options, Wheels, Hardware. OK, I'm on Hardware. I've looked here
before. I an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse under devices.
No touchpad.

[]
If you see (I presume the word "see" is missing from the above!) "an
HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse", after plugging in your mouse
(you say you are using "the mouse", so I presume you are plugging one in),
then one of those probably _is_ the touchpad; after all, for most software,
it functions as a mouse. Try disabling each of those! (I suspect it'll be the
PS/2 one.) [Don't disable both - that includes making sure the re-enabled one
has started working again - if you find it's the wrong one, unless you're
familiar with how to use the computer without a mouse; it's usually possible,
but many people these days don't know how to.]


Alternatively, and you'll kick yourself if you have something similar: on
this Samsung NC-20, Fn-F10 toggles he touchpad on and off ... (-:


Here's another algorithm for that:

Unplug the external mouse. Disable the only remaining mouse. Plug the
external mouse back in and reboot (with the Windows key if necessary).
Or one could disable the trackpad, shut down, plug the external mouse
in, and power on.

--
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Old February 21st 12, 11:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2/20/2012, Thip posted:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using
the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old.
My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes
to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot
of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad?


Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I ended
up doing:


Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable)
Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel
Uninstalled the one that was left
Rebooted and plugged in the mouse
Touchpad gone!


I posted the same idea just two minutes before reading your post. Looks
like I'm a day late and a dollar short!

Great minds and so forth...

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Old February 22nd 12, 12:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On 2/20/2012, Thip posted:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I
began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop
about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while
typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing,
brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How
do I turn off the pad?


Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I
ended up doing:


Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable)
Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel
Uninstalled the one that was left
Rebooted and plugged in the mouse
Touchpad gone!


I posted the same idea just two minutes before reading your post. Looks
like I'm a day late and a dollar short!

Great minds and so forth...

Strange, I didn't see that post initially, but anyway: no, I don't think
you'll see an option to disable in Control Panel under mice. You'll find
it in Device Manager.
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Old February 22nd 12, 03:25 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor

On 2/21/2012, J. P. Gilliver (John) posted:
In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On 2/20/2012, Thip posted:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began
using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4
years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and
the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new
window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the
pad?


Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I
ended up doing:


Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable)
Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel
Uninstalled the one that was left
Rebooted and plugged in the mouse
Touchpad gone!


I posted the same idea just two minutes before reading your post. Looks like
I'm a day late and a dollar short!

Great minds and so forth...


Strange, I didn't see that post initially, but anyway: no, I don't think
you'll see an option to disable in Control Panel under mice. You'll find it
in Device Manager.


My bad. I didn't notice that Leon Manfredi had said Control Panel. I
was thinking Device manager.

Or maybe I wasn't actually thinking :-)

--
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