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Old July 14th 19, 09:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
OtherGuy
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

On Win XP
Thunderbird v 38.5.0 Do I need to update ?

Removed gmail account from thunderbird.

Used firefox to go to GMail directly and logged in to verify new
password. It allowed access.

I logged out of gmail in firefox.

Back at Thunderbird and adding gmail account.
User name and password entered.

Did its thing then opened a window
Enter Credentials for (account name).

None of the links or buttons on this windows works. Nothing happns when
clicking any of them.

I expected this to open the gmail windows to say I am allowed to use
thunderbird.

How do I fix this to use in thunderbird?




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Old July 14th 19, 09:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

On 14/07/2019 21:39, OtherGuy wrote:
On Win XP
Thunderbird v 38.5.0 Do I need to update ?


*Yes you need to get Windows 10 machine to use latest version of
Thunderbird.*


Removed gmail account from thunderbird.

Used firefox to go to GMail directly and logged in to verify new
password. It allowed access.

I logged out of gmail in firefox.

Back at Thunderbird and adding gmail account.
User name and password entered.

Did its thing then opened a window
Enter Credentials for (account name).

None of the links or buttons on this windows works. Nothing happns
when clicking any of them.

I expected this to open the gmail windows to say I am allowed to use
thunderbird.


*Thunderbird will not run on Tom Dick & Harry's machine. The user need
to have some intelligence to use it. Thunderbird is very smart to test
this by scanning key strokes!!*


How do I fix this to use in thunderbird?


*The easiest way is to hire a technician who can fix most problems in
exchange for a small fee.*


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Old July 14th 19, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Shadow
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:39:43 -0700, OtherGuy
wrote:

On Win XP
Thunderbird v 38.5.0 Do I need to update ?

Removed gmail account from thunderbird.

Used firefox to go to GMail directly and logged in to verify new
password. It allowed access.

I logged out of gmail in firefox.

Back at Thunderbird and adding gmail account.
User name and password entered.

Did its thing then opened a window
Enter Credentials for (account name).

None of the links or buttons on this windows works. Nothing happns when
clicking any of them.


Try re-installing the same version. You probably broke
something when you "removed gmail".

I expected this to open the gmail windows to say I am allowed to use
thunderbird.


Thunderbird is an email client. If it's opening a webpage you
might have malware.
FWIW, I'm using Thunderbird v 2.0.0.x, and it works perfectly
with all 3 mail providers (gmail is one of them).
HTH
[]'s

How do I fix this to use in thunderbird?



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  #4  
Old July 14th 19, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

OtherGuy wrote:
On Win XP
Thunderbird v 38.5.0 Do I need to update ?

Removed gmail account from thunderbird.

Used firefox to go to GMail directly and logged in to verify new
password. It allowed access.

I logged out of gmail in firefox.

Back at Thunderbird and adding gmail account.
User name and password entered.

Did its thing then opened a window
Enter Credentials for (account name).

None of the links or buttons on this windows works. Nothing happns when
clicking any of them.

I expected this to open the gmail windows to say I am allowed to use
thunderbird.

How do I fix this to use in thunderbird?


Do you think that is an OAUTH2 window ?

Is yours like this ?

https://user-media-prod-cdn.itsre-su...-21-873e91.png

A bit more background.

https://www.supertechcrew.com/thunderbird-oauth2-gmail/

"However, since version 38, Thunderbird has supported Oauth2 with Gmail"

Paul

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Old July 14th 19, 10:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
OtherGuy
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

Yes your .gif looks like the dead window I get.

I have always been able to get an email setup in thunderbird without all
the extra effort.

I did go to gmail using chrome on win xp pro laptop and enable (was
disabled) gmail to allow less secure apps but that did not help.

Why is thnderbird considered less secure ?

So on new my phone I had zero problems setting up the gmail for this
account. New phone but same account but I unfortunately changed the
email password for this account when I got the new phone. Now all this
drama.

Will Win 7 and Thunderbird there screw with me too ?

So oath2 is the only way now ?

Why do we all have to be tech gurus to use our PCs and phones etc
??????? Such stupidity on the Google's part ! Or is all Thunderbird's
fault ?
Oh well !

Thanks for you assistance !
Next I set up a filter to delete Gooooo Guy email upon receipt.



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Old July 14th 19, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
OtherGuy
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You need to be house trained.

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Old July 14th 19, 10:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Mike Easter
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

OtherGuy wrote:
On Win XP
Thunderbird v 38.5.0Â*Â* Do I need to update ?


Current Tb is 60.4.

Last release to support XP is 52, which v. does support gmail's oauth2.

If Tb runs into any trouble/snag authenticating w/ gmail, it activates
gmail's security system which would require you to log into gmail w/ web
browser (again) to satisfy the captcha, which of course Tb can't do by
itself. After you browser login, you should be able to authenticate w/ Tb.

How do I fix this to use in thunderbird?


I would close Tb if it is misbehaving. It is even possible that you
might need to restart it w/ add-ons disabled if there is some add-on
conflict problem. I get there from the Help menu which menu bar is not
active by default.

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Old July 14th 19, 11:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

OtherGuy wrote:
Yes your .gif looks like the dead window I get.

I have always been able to get an email setup in thunderbird without all
the extra effort.

I did go to gmail using chrome on win xp pro laptop and enable (was
disabled) gmail to allow less secure apps but that did not help.

Why is thnderbird considered less secure ?

So on new my phone I had zero problems setting up the gmail for this
account. New phone but same account but I unfortunately changed the
email password for this account when I got the new phone. Now all this
drama.

Will Win 7 and Thunderbird there screw with me too ?

So oath2 is the only way now ?

Why do we all have to be tech gurus to use our PCs and phones etc
??????? Such stupidity on the Google's part ! Or is all Thunderbird's
fault ?
Oh well !

Thanks for you assistance !
Next I set up a filter to delete Gooooo Guy email upon receipt.


If you use the web login to GMail, there are "account settings".

You can use "allow less secure applications" and that
will allow authentication without OAUTH2 input (where
the buttons aren't working because Javascript is disabled
or too old of a version).

In the article I showed you, the claim is there is an
authentication menu. OAUTH2 is just one of the options.
You can use regular authentication options instead of
that... as long as the "web page account settings"
is set to allow less secure logins, one of the other
options could work.

That's the way I read it.

Since your Thunderbird 38 is "supposed" to support OAUTH2,
it is a candidate technology. But if the Javascript
version isn't modern enough to make the buttons work,
maybe that's what is killing it. In which case, you
can upgrade Thunderbird, or "downgrade" your
security setting in the web account testings thing.

Just a guess,
Paul
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Old July 15th 19, 12:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote on 7/14/2019 2:51 PM:
On 14/07/2019 21:39, OtherGuy wrote:
On Win XP
Thunderbird v 38.5.0Â*Â* Do I need to update ?


*Yes you need to get Windows 10 machine to use latest version of
Thunderbird.*


False.
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  #10  
Old July 15th 19, 02:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

OtherGuy wrote:

On Win XP
Thunderbird v 38.5.0 Do I need to update ?

Removed gmail account from thunderbird. Used firefox to go to GMail
directly and logged in to verify new password. It allowed access. I
logged out of gmail in firefox.

Back at Thunderbird and adding gmail account. User name and password
entered. Did its thing then opened a window Enter Credentials for
(account name). None of the links or buttons on this windows works.
Nothing happns when clicking any of them. I expected this to open the
gmail windows to say I am allowed to use thunderbird.


According to:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-38

Thunderbird supported OAUTH2. You can configure the local account
defined in Thunderbird to use OAUTH2, or you can configure your Gmail
account to allow "less secure apps".

Thunderbird has a problem with its auto-updater in getting its latest
version installed on Windows XP. It was a 2-step process: use its
auto-updater to get the latest version that it allowed, then download a
later version and install that yourself.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...ndows-xp-vista

Thunderbird 52 was the latest version that supported Windows XP SP-3.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...t-xp-and-vista

If a client supports OAUTH2 and it is configured to use it when
connecting to Gmail then Google allows the client to connect. If the
client does not support OAUTH2, or is configured to not use it, then
Gmail *may* reject the connection request. For non-OAUTH2 clients, you
need to configure your Gmail account (online using a web browser) to
allow access by what Google claims (but lies) are less secure clients.

https://support.google.com/accounts/.../6010255?hl=en

Note, even when using OAUTH2 in your client to connect to the Gmail
service, you may be required to login on the first attempt to generate
the client-side OAUTH2 token used thereafter for subsequent logins. To
get Thunderbird to use OAUTH2 (assuming it doesn't automatically add the
option from its database of e-mail site logins), go into the locally
defined account (in Thunderbird) under security settings, connection
security, and check the authentication method is OAUTH2 (instead of
SSL/TLS). As I recall, OAUTH2 authentication cannot be used with a POP3
connection, only IMAP4. Below are the dialogs for configuring IMAP4
(incoming) and SMTP (outgoing) servers defined in a local account:

https://user-media-prod-cdn.itsre-su...-26-618bc4.png
https://user-media-prod-cdn.itsre-su...-28-a70ce8.png

You don't have to use OAUTH2, but then you'll have to configure your
Gmail account to allow access by "less secure apps".

Presumably you already did the online configuration in your Gmail
account to allow the type of access (POP3 or IMAP4) that you configured
your client to use. IMAP4 is newer and more robust, but some folks
still want to use POP3. Unlike some mobile apps (e.g., Gmail app on
Android), Thunderbird does not support Google's proprietary Gmail API
(which uses REST but geared towards Google's services) for direct access
to G[oogle]mail accounts to eliminate using the standard e-mail
protocols. As I recall, Thunderbird only support POP3 and IMAP4 to
connect to Gmail and other e-mail providers. That only handles e-mail.
For 2-way access to the calendar at Google (or any site's calendering
service), I believe you need to install an extension that adds support
for CalDAV. Lightning is the extension to add local calendaring to
Thunderbird, but you need something like "CalDAV for Thunderbird" if you
want Thunderbird to stay in sync with your online calendar. While you
can add CalDAV support to Thunderbird via extension, the service
provider must also run a CalDAV server.
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Old July 19th 19, 07:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
OtherGuy
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Default Thunderbird GMail Setup

Thanks all.

I tried to update Thunderbird on my Win XP Pro laptop and that advanced
to the latest version of Thunderbird. I was many versions behind.

Thunderbird then went through the entire process or adding the eMail
account and the eMail account was added and is usable.

Thanks again.

 




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