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Old July 26th 19, 01:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Win XP pro SP3 and is up to date.

Two flash dries plugged in and shows; a 32G and a 64G.

Plug in third flash drive and bink-bonk sound but does not show !

Tried a 8G and a 256G. Neither show !

These work OK on a Win 7 PC.

My 32G flash that shows is READ ONLY. NO SWITCH ! The whole damn drive.
I cannot change it to be able to save files to it.

What to do ?

Thank you !
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Old July 26th 19, 02:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 26/07/2019 01:57, FreeThought wrote:


What to do ?



You can read this article and see if you can follow its step-by-step.

https://www.disk-partition.com/articles/format-read-only-usb-0310.html

If you can't and I suspect you can't then just hire a Technician who can
fix such problems. You are a known troll according to my database.

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Old July 26th 19, 02:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 26/07/2019 02:02, pjp wrote:
Nothing I tried fixed them
so eventually they got thrown in garbage.


you are complete idiot as I have been telling you all these years and
this only reinforces my opinion about you.

Two others I have still
working fine.


Let's see for how long they continue to work in your hands. You'll be
here pretty soon crying about them.




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Old July 26th 19, 03:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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"FreeThought" wrote

| On Win XP pro SP3 and is up to date.
|
| Two flash dries plugged in and shows; a 32G and a 64G.
|
| Plug in third flash drive and bink-bonk sound but does not show !
|
| Tried a 8G and a 256G. Neither show !
|
| These work OK on a Win 7 PC.
|

Possibly USB3? I'm not sure whether those will work
in XP. But I haven't actually tried. I do have a later
model Sandisk that works in XP32 and Win7-64, but
doesn't show on my Win7-32 laptop. I have no idea
why. My older Sandisk tick works fine on all of them.


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Old July 26th 19, 04:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:
"FreeThought" wrote

| On Win XP pro SP3 and is up to date.
|
| Two flash dries plugged in and shows; a 32G and a 64G.
|
| Plug in third flash drive and bink-bonk sound but does not show !
|
| Tried a 8G and a 256G. Neither show !
|
| These work OK on a Win 7 PC.
|

Possibly USB3? I'm not sure whether those will work
in XP. But I haven't actually tried. I do have a later
model Sandisk that works in XP32 and Win7-64, but
doesn't show on my Win7-32 laptop. I have no idea
why. My older Sandisk tick works fine on all of them.



My NEC USB3 card works fine under WinXP SP3.
I have several good USB3 sticks, and a few more
USB3-in-name-only sticks, and all are detected
and function.

I had a couple Lexar ones that died, but that was
a couple of years ago now. They had TLC flash chips
(Which I'm sure all the remaining ones are also TLC).
One minute they were writing at about 10MB/sec,
the next minute 1.5MB/sec and eventually (a couple hours),
they were toast.

I wish there were better utilities for USB flash
sticks, but that's really expecting too much from
the manufacturers, to have an actual diagnostic
that can tell you "toast imminent".

The hard drive companies make test programs that
deliver various "codes" for hardware trouble, and
using those code values, you can request warranty
service. Which is better than nothing. The flash companies
could put a program right on the stick, and then you'd always
have a match for your product, in terms of detection
and statistics.

Paul
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Old July 26th 19, 04:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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I did a lot of searching and this is what I found.

Win XP PC is UB2
All flash (pen) drives here.

A 128G USB3 works just fine there.
An identical USB3 128G drive will not register.
In order to allow the first 128 USB3 drive to work I had to unplug one
of the other drives I had plugged in.
Seems that I hit the wall on the number of USB drives.
I had two plugged in and was adding a third.


The 32G flash drive was read only and I could not get it to change that
in the Win XP Pro pc.
I plugged it into a Win 7 Pro PC and ran a
Properties/Tools/Error-Checking Check Now and the read only was
automatically removed. Works now in the Win XP Pro PC just fine.

What a pain !



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Old July 26th 19, 05:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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In alt.windows7.general Paul wrote:
Mayayana wrote:
"FreeThought" wrote

| On Win XP pro SP3 and is up to date.
|
| Two flash dries plugged in and shows; a 32G and a 64G.
|
| Plug in third flash drive and bink-bonk sound but does not show !
|
| Tried a 8G and a 256G. Neither show !
|
| These work OK on a Win 7 PC.
|

Possibly USB3? I'm not sure whether those will work
in XP. But I haven't actually tried. I do have a later
model Sandisk that works in XP32 and Win7-64, but
doesn't show on my Win7-32 laptop. I have no idea
why. My older Sandisk tick works fine on all of them.



My NEC USB3 card works fine under WinXP SP3.
I have several good USB3 sticks, and a few more
USB3-in-name-only sticks, and all are detected
and function.


I had a couple Lexar ones that died, but that was
a couple of years ago now. They had TLC flash chips
(Which I'm sure all the remaining ones are also TLC).
One minute they were writing at about 10MB/sec,
the next minute 1.5MB/sec and eventually (a couple hours),
they were toast.


I wish there were better utilities for USB flash
sticks, but that's really expecting too much from
the manufacturers, to have an actual diagnostic
that can tell you "toast imminent".


The hard drive companies make test programs that
deliver various "codes" for hardware trouble, and
using those code values, you can request warranty
service. Which is better than nothing. The flash companies
could put a program right on the stick, and then you'd always
have a match for your product, in terms of detection
and statistics.


Bascially, SMART for flash sticks. Yeah, that would be useful but that costs money to the
companies.

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Old July 26th 19, 05:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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FreeThought wrote:
I did a lot of searching and this is what I found.

Win XP PC is UB2
All flash (pen) drives here.

A 128G USB3 works just fine there.
An identical USB3 128G drive will not register.
In order to allow the first 128 USB3 drive to work I had to unplug one
of the other drives I had plugged in.
Seems that I hit the wall on the number of USB drives.
I had two plugged in and was adding a third.


The 32G flash drive was read only and I could not get it to change that
in the Win XP Pro pc.
I plugged it into a Win 7 Pro PC and ran a
Properties/Tools/Error-Checking Check Now and the read only was
automatically removed. Works now in the Win XP Pro PC just fine.

What a pain !


As long as at least one stick works at a time,
then you can get stuff done.

While it could be a power issue, what are the
odds of that happening (that it's actually a
power overload) ? I've never had any trouble in
that regard with my USB stuff.

Paul
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Old July 26th 19, 01:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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"Paul" wrote

| Possibly USB3? I'm not sure whether those will work
| in XP. But I haven't actually tried. I do have a later
| model Sandisk that works in XP32 and Win7-64, but
| doesn't show on my Win7-32 laptop. I have no idea
| why. My older Sandisk tick works fine on all of them.
|
|
|
| My NEC USB3 card works fine under WinXP SP3.
| I have several good USB3 sticks, and a few more
| USB3-in-name-only sticks, and all are detected
| and function.
|
The reason I wrote that was because my current
computer, which I built, has both USB2 and 3 ports, and
the USB3 don't seem to work. But I admit I haven't
spent time checking out the problem as I just don't
need USB3 and I don't often use USB sticks. Mostly
it's just an occasional plugging in of a camera, along
with a USB mouse.

I also wondered about the variations. Like my Sandisks
with white slides that work everywehre while my Sandisk
with a red slide doesn't work in the Win7 laptop. Weird.

It sounds like you're saying the quality control
and standards are just not there for sticks.



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Old July 26th 19, 02:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote

| Possibly USB3? I'm not sure whether those will work
| in XP. But I haven't actually tried. I do have a later
| model Sandisk that works in XP32 and Win7-64, but
| doesn't show on my Win7-32 laptop. I have no idea
| why. My older Sandisk tick works fine on all of them.
|
|
|
| My NEC USB3 card works fine under WinXP SP3.
| I have several good USB3 sticks, and a few more
| USB3-in-name-only sticks, and all are detected
| and function.
|
The reason I wrote that was because my current
computer, which I built, has both USB2 and 3 ports, and
the USB3 don't seem to work. But I admit I haven't
spent time checking out the problem as I just don't
need USB3 and I don't often use USB sticks. Mostly
it's just an occasional plugging in of a camera, along
with a USB mouse.

I also wondered about the variations. Like my Sandisks
with white slides that work everywehre while my Sandisk
with a red slide doesn't work in the Win7 laptop. Weird.

It sounds like you're saying the quality control
and standards are just not there for sticks.


You could start with the BIOS page that controls
USB and see if everything is turned on.

Next, you'd look in Device Manager, and see if
all the hardware is accounted for. And the USB3
has been given a driver. Both WinXP and Win7
need USB3 drivers (XHCI).

I can't give any excuses for why it works or does
not work. While the enumeration seems to get clogged
up in the OS, there's no "theme" to it. It doesn't
happen to everyone. Would "Safely Remove" make
a difference ? Is there some transient that puts
half filled records in the registry ? I would think
USB would need damn good software filtering to eliminate
the possibility of such.

USB works best if the devices have unique serial numbers.
That can reduce the amount of entries in the registry
(a previously inserted stick would leave behind a
serial, and wouldn't need to be recorded when it
comes in on another port).

Paul



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Old July 26th 19, 06:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 26/07/2019 04:55, FreeThought wrote:


What a pain !


There is no pain USB3 flash drives are backwards compatible no matter
what you use. What is pain is that some people with low intelligence
are using a Windows system when they could go and use some other junk
system that requires little or no intelligence. Have you thought of
doing this?

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Old July 26th 19, 06:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 08:51:36 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

"Paul" wrote


[snip]

I also wondered about the variations. Like my Sandisks
with white slides that work everywehre while my Sandisk
with a red slide doesn't work in the Win7 laptop. Weird.

It sounds like you're saying the quality control
and standards are just not there for sticks.


I have had sticks fail on me. I do not know that the QC is at
fault; we expose sticks to more. I was packing my sticks in my
pocket. Dirt or conductive stuff might have gotten to them. I had
better results when I kept the stick in a child-proof pill bottle.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
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Old July 27th 19, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 22:52:37 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

"FreeThought" wrote

| On Win XP pro SP3 and is up to date.
|
| Two flash dries plugged in and shows; a 32G and a 64G.
|
| Plug in third flash drive and bink-bonk sound but does not show !
|
| Tried a 8G and a 256G. Neither show !
|
| These work OK on a Win 7 PC.
|

Possibly USB3? I'm not sure whether those will work
in XP. But I haven't actually tried.


All my USB3.10 drives work under XP. Both in the USB3 ports
and the USB2 ports.

There's a very old program for testing USB flash drives:

https://www.softpedia.com/get/System.../H2testw.shtml

It writes a pattern to the whole drive and then reads it back.
I only use it on a brand new drive to see if it's defective. Probably
not worth the wear and tear using it again. Useful if you want to
change defective drives on warranty.
Flash drives do tend to stop working eventually though I have
a "winner" that's been going for over 12 years almost daily use.

Nirsoft:

https://nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html

Has a nice little program to examine your past and present USB
devices. Some items like power consumption are only available after
you plug a drive in.
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