Win7 support:

That means you never gave it the license key,
after you reinstalled it.

Or, you unticked "automatically activate"
after giving it the license key.

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html

Paul

It says remaining rearm count - 3
so does that mean it will say Activate
Windows 7 only three more times and after that
I will loose the genuine and all our work
will be lost?

Is there a way to force this rather than waiting
for it? I mean I could go to warm up my coffee
and it could pop-up and be gone by the time I get
back.


Man I thought all these problems were over with.

Robert

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 3:33:18 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 11:37:09 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 10:20:04 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
I just got a Activate Windows pop-up
on the 780!? Isn't that weird? It happened
so fast I couldn't take a screenshot.


Robert
Has it gone Not Genuine again ?

From an Administrator Command Prompt, try

slmgr /dlv

and it will say something about "activated"
or "grace period", where "grace period" needs
the license key to be entered so it can
activate.

The System control panel may also contain a string
indicating activation.

Paul
No it has not gone genuine it just had the pop-up

https://postimg.cc/sQzVXS4L

Robert

I just noticed that it says under
license status, I have 25 days
remaining. So does that mean in 25
days it will revert to not genuine?

Robert

That means you never gave it the license key,
after you reinstalled it.

Or, you unticked "automatically activate"
after giving it the license key.

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html

Paul



The worst case scenario is that I will
loose the present HD and it will go not
genuine and I can't get Win 7 back. In
that event I will just put in my backup
Win 7 HD and maybe clone over this one.

I don't understand why it did not accept
the license key but we will give it another
try and maybe this time it will work.

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
That means you never gave it the license key,
after you reinstalled it.

Or, you unticked "automatically activate"
after giving it the license key.

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html

Paul

It says remaining rearm count - 3
so does that mean it will say Activate
Windows 7 only three more times and after that
I will loose the genuine and all our work
will be lost?

Is there a way to force this rather than waiting
for it? I mean I could go to warm up my coffee
and it could pop-up and be gone by the time I get
back.


Man I thought all these problems were over with.

Robert

The "rearm count" is for "Grace Period".

The Grace Period is 30 days.

If you use the rearm command, you can extend the
grace period to 3 * 30 = 90 days. It requires waiting
to the last possible moment, then using a rearm.

This has, well, nothing to do with abuse of activating Windows.
It's hard to say what conditions trigger key revocation. I
don't know what does it.

Paul

Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 3:33:18 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 11:37:09 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 10:20:04 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
I just got a Activate Windows pop-up
on the 780!? Isn't that weird? It happened
so fast I couldn't take a screenshot.


Robert
Has it gone Not Genuine again ?

From an Administrator Command Prompt, try

slmgr /dlv

and it will say something about "activated"
or "grace period", where "grace period" needs
the license key to be entered so it can
activate.

The System control panel may also contain a string
indicating activation.

Paul
No it has not gone genuine it just had the pop-up

https://postimg.cc/sQzVXS4L

Robert
I just noticed that it says under
license status, I have 25 days
remaining. So does that mean in 25
days it will revert to not genuine?

Robert
That means you never gave it the license key,
after you reinstalled it.

Or, you unticked "automatically activate"
after giving it the license key.

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html

Paul



The worst case scenario is that I will
loose the present HD and it will go not
genuine and I can't get Win 7 back. In
that event I will just put in my backup
Win 7 HD and maybe clone over this one.

I don't understand why it did not accept
the license key but we will give it another
try and maybe this time it will work.

Robert

Microsoft provides free support for activation issues.
You're not really in the woods on this. Help is available.

If worse comes to worse, there will be a phone number
to call, to work through the issues with a human.

On an OEM license key (the one you're trying to activate),
there is a Phone requirement. See this page, for the

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html

56-digit challenge and response. The OEM license challenge and
response are automated. No human works on the other end.
You copy a 56 digit string to your telephone key pad, when
prompted. The robot at the other end, will "speak" a 56
digit response. You write that down. You enter it into
a box on the computer screen, and the job is done. The
OS activates. This has something to do with geolocation
and proving a USA key is being used in the continental USA.
It doesn't seem to have much other purpose than to annoy
people. When I reinstalled Windows 7 on my laptop
(Home Premium), I went through this routine too. So
expect it to be a requirement.

Start : Run : "slui 3"

might be enough to kick it off, if the automation does not
prompt you to start the process.

"SLUI: which stands for SOFTWARE LICENSING USER INTERFACE

1. SLUI 1 brings up the activation status window
2. SLUI 2 brings up the activation window
3. SLUI 3 brings up the CHANGE PRODUCT KEY window
4. SLUI 4 brings up the CALL MICROSOFT & MANUALLY ACTIVATE window
"

Each geographical area has different phone numbers.

There might be an "office hours" requirement for any
procedure involving humans. The "robot" should be
ready to go any ole time. If the attempt to use the
robot fails, then you'll want to try a different
method when "support" phone hours are valid.

Paul

In message ,
Robert in CA writes:

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The worst case scenario is that I will
loose the present HD and it will go not

[lose (-:]

genuine and I can't get Win 7 back. In
that event I will just put in my backup
Win 7 HD and maybe clone over this one.

As an observer on the sidelines, I'm just puzzled why you _aren't_ just
putting back the backup W7 HD, and spending so much time trying to get
the more recent one back to activated. I'm assuming the backup one was
made by cloning an activated system. Or have you done something with the
one that's gone rogue, that you don't want to lose?
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A clean, neat and orderly desk is a sign of a sick mind. (G6JPG's mind is
clearly extremely healthy ...)

As an observer on the sidelines, I'm just puzzled why you _aren't_ just
putting back the backup W7 HD, and spending so much time trying to get
the more recent one back to activated. I'm assuming the backup one was
made by cloning an activated system. Or have you done something with the
one that's gone rogue, that you don't want to lose?
[]


You make a good point. I have spent way too
much time on this and that was the whole point
of having backup HD's and Mrimgs so I wouldn't
have to be doing this.

However we have gone so far with the HD it seems a
waste not to activate it.

Robert

Should I just try activating it by phone now?

As I say, if I wait for the Activate Windows
pop-up again I may miss it if I go for coffee
etc because I have no idea when it will pop-up
again.

Robert

Microsoft provides free support for activation issues.
You're not really in the woods on this. Help is available.

If worse comes to worse, there will be a phone number
to call, to work through the issues with a human.

On an OEM license key (the one you're trying to activate),
there is a Phone requirement. See this page, for the

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html

56-digit challenge and response. The OEM license challenge and
response are automated. No human works on the other end.
You copy a 56 digit string to your telephone key pad, when
prompted. The robot at the other end, will "speak" a 56
digit response. You write that down. You enter it into
a box on the computer screen, and the job is done. The
OS a...




I was thinking and it occurred to me
that if I go ahead and change the license
key by phone then the other good Win7 HD
won't work because the license key will
have been changed.

Isn't better/faster to put that good Win7
HD back in the 780, run scans,make a system
restore point and mrimg then clone this HD?

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
Microsoft provides free support for activation issues.
You're not really in the woods on this. Help is available.

If worse comes to worse, there will be a phone number
to call, to work through the issues with a human.

On an OEM license key (the one you're trying to activate),
there is a Phone requirement. See this page, for the

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html

56-digit challenge and response. The OEM license challenge and
response are automated. No human works on the other end.
You copy a 56 digit string to your telephone key pad, when
prompted. The robot at the other end, will "speak" a 56
digit response. You write that down. You enter it into
a box on the computer screen, and the job is done. The
OS a...




I was thinking and it occurred to me
that if I go ahead and change the license
key by phone then the other good Win7 HD
won't work because the license key will
have been changed.

Isn't better/faster to put that good Win7
HD back in the 780, run scans,make a system
restore point and mrimg then clone this HD?

Robert

If you want to restore the image you made of the
780, you can. You'll need to boot the Macrium CD,
have your backup drive in a USB enclosure, and restore
the MRIMG to the drive that is internal.

*******

You can have multiple disk drives with the same
C: on them. You just can't use them on multiple
computers at the same time. They're activated against
one set of hardware, and that is where you'd use them
each time (when booting them as an OS).

When you seem to be installing Windows 7 to the
same C: drive two hundred times (and presenting the
same key each time), Microsoft takes this
as a "warning sign" you're making illegal copies or
something (trying to run the OS on many different
machines or something). The trigger condition does not
make a lot of sense, but does seem to happen. If
you reinstall the OS once a year, then nothing will
happen to you.

If you haven't typed the key in, then nothing you've
done so far is "count-able". I install OSes all the time
with no license key, for test purposes, and throw away the
image after around three days or so. And nobody cares
about that.

Paul

Success!@!!


The Activate Windows pop-up came up again
so I clicked it and put in the license key
and this time it took it.


https://postimg.cc/jWqKCpv4

https://postimg.cc/Fd74V0Mf


Robert

Robert in CA wrote:

Success!@!!


The Activate Windows pop-up came up again
so I clicked it and put in the license key
and this time it took it.


https://postimg.cc/jWqKCpv4

https://postimg.cc/Fd74V0Mf


Robert


That's interesting.

I thought they'd hit you up for the
56-digit challenge/response thing.

It's good to know the Refurbisher thing is
more forgiving :-)

Paul

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

Success!@!!


The Activate Windows pop-up came up again
so I clicked it and put in the license key
and this time it took it.


https://postimg.cc/jWqKCpv4

https://postimg.cc/Fd74V0Mf


Robert


That's interesting.

I thought they'd hit you up for the
56-digit challenge/response thing.

It's good to know the Refurbisher thing is
more forgiving :-)

Paul



As a precaution, I wrote the license key
down again just in case I had got it wrong
the first time and there's always the possibility
I hit the wrong key before but it is forgiving
as you say.

I think it would be a good time to do a system
restore point after I finish with all the scans.
Then do a Mrimg.

I'm going to try an install Word again and see
if it takes this time.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Robert

Ran all the scans, made a system restore
point and finishing a Mrimg.


Thanks again for all your good help bringing
the HD back to life.

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:

Ran all the scans, made a system restore
point and finishing a Mrimg.


Thanks again for all your good help bringing
the HD back to life.

Robert

I'm just glad the computer let you finish!

Paul

I'm going to try an install Word again and see
if it takes this time.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Robert



I tried to install Word again but it didn't accept
the license key. I this time it would because the
Windows activation worked and that accepted the
license key. Strange,.... and if I recall I had
Word on it before.

Robert