Win7 support:

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
You said all I needed was an ISO but now
your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not
going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not
worth it.

I'm not exactly following you,.....

Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file
on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500?
or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put
in downloads on the 780 and then create the file?

Which do you want me to do?

Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been
doing so much I don't remember know how to
locate it again.

Robert



If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it
to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your
Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so
you put the Windows ISO file on the 780.

This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot
USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780
so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have
"File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would
make the job easier).

Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you
grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running,
go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads
folder. You select the Windows ISO.

The OSFMount program will show in its status window,
that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer,
open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and
double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install.
The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes,
then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your
programs and keeping your user data. And the
install will then happen.

THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen,
continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job.
Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of
the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down
no matter what you're doing, without using a
clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install
a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the
Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy
of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an
Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour
before it shuts down.)

*******

Enter the BIOS using...




I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads.

Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program?
Can you please provide a download link?

I did not see the virtual DVD in your link so I
hope this is all self explanatory when I'm doing it.

Thanks,
Robert

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
You said all I needed was an ISO but now
your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not
going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not
worth it.

I'm not exactly following you,.....

Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file
on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500?
or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put
in downloads on the 780 and then create the file?

Which do you want me to do?

Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been
doing so much I don't remember know how to
locate it again.

Robert



If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it
to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your
Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so
you put the Windows ISO file on the 780.

This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot
USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780
so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have
"File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would
make the job easier).

Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you
grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running,
go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads
folder. You select the Windows ISO.

The OSFMount program will show in its status window,
that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer,
open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and
double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install.
The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes,
then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your
programs and keeping your user data. And the
install will then happen.

THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen,
continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job.
Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of
the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down
no matter what you're doing, without using a
clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install
a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the
Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy
of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an
Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour
before it shuts down.)

*******

Enter the BIOS using...




I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads.

Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program?
Can you please provide a download link?

I did not see the virtual DVD in your link so I
hope this is all self explanatory when I'm doing it.

Thanks,
Robert

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
You said all I needed was an ISO but now
your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not
going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not
worth it.

I'm not exactly following you,.....

Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file
on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500?
or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put
in downloads on the 780 and then create the file?

Which do you want me to do?

Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been
doing so much I don't remember know how to
locate it again.

Robert



If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it
to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your
Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so
you put the Windows ISO file on the 780.

This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot
USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780
so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have
"File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would
make the job easier).

Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you
grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running,
go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads
folder. You select the Windows ISO.

The OSFMount program will show in its status window,
that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer,
open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and
double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install.
The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes,
then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your
programs and keeping your user data. And the
install will then happen.



I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads.

Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program?
Can you please provide a download link?

Thanks,
Robert

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
You said all I needed was an ISO but now
your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not
going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not
worth it.

I'm not exactly following you,.....

Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file
on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500?
or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put
in downloads on the 780 and then create the file?

Which do you want me to do?

Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been
doing so much I don't remember know how to
locate it again.

Robert



If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it
to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your
Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so
you put the Windows ISO file on the 780.

This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot
USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780
so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have
"File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would
make the job easier).

Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you
grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running,
go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads
folder. You select the Windows ISO.

The OSFMount program will show in its status window,
that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer,
open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and
double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install.
The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes,
then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your
programs and keeping your user data. And the
install will then happen.

THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen,
continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job.
Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of
the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down
no matter what you're doing, without using a
clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install
a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the
Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy
of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an
Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour
before it shuts down.)

*******

Enter the BIOS u...



I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads.

Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program?
Can you please provide a download link?


Also I keep trying to edit pages by clicking quote
original when reply replying but then I can't see my
reply.


Thanks,
Robert

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
You said all I needed was an ISO but now
your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not
going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not
worth it.

I'm not exactly following you,.....

Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file
on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500?
or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put
in downloads on the 780 and then create the file?

Which do you want me to do?

Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been
doing so much I don't remember know how to
locate it again.

Robert



If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it
to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your
Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so
you put the Windows ISO file on the 780.

This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot
USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780
so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have
"File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would
make the job easier).

Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you
grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running,
go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads
folder. You select the Windows ISO.

The OSFMount program will show in its status window,
that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer,
open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and
double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install.
The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes,
then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your
programs and keeping your user data. And the
install will then happen.

THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen,
continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job.
Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of
the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down
no matter what you're doing, without using a
clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install
a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the
Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy
of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an
Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour
before it shuts down.)

*******

Enter the BIOS using F2.

Select the Drives entry.

Find the window with SATA 1,2,3,4, and ESATA.
You want (perhaps) SATA 1 and SATA 2 turned
on (HDD and optical drive), while SATA 3 (Win10)
remains unticked. That way, while the Repair
Install is happening, the Win10 disk will be
unaffected.

You've probably already set things up that way
anyway, and this is just a reminder. I think you
told me you were already running RAID ON and
SATA 1 and SATA 2 ticked.

Pau



No no no,... we went to a screen where it actually
had two boxes that were label Win7 and Win 10 and
we un-ticked Win7. I want to go back and un-tick Win10
but I don't remember where it was or how to get there?

Here are the SATA's; remember it didn't like SATA1 and SATA2
being ticked and gave the F1 error? I did not make any changes.

https://postimg.cc/hXNrMX3J

https://postimg.cc/hJ99rpdw

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
You said all I needed was an ISO but now
your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not
going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not
worth it.

I'm not exactly following you,.....

Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file
on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500?
or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put
in downloads on the 780 and then create the file?

Which do you want me to do?

Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been
doing so much I don't remember know how to
locate it again.

Robert


If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it
to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your
Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so
you put the Windows ISO file on the 780.

This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot
USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780
so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have
"File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would
make the job easier).

Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you
grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running,
go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads
folder. You select the Windows ISO.

The OSFMount program will show in its status window,
that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer,
open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and
double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install.
The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes,
then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your
programs and keeping your user data. And the
install will then happen.

THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen,
continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job.
Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of
the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down
no matter what you're doing, without using a
clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install
a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the
Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy
of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an
Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour
before it shuts down.)

*******

Enter the BIOS using F2.

Select the Drives entry.

Find the window with SATA 1,2,3,4, and ESATA.
You want (perhaps) SATA 1 and SATA 2 turned
on (HDD and optical drive), while SATA 3 (Win10)
remains unticked. That way, while the Repair
Install is happening, the Win10 disk will be
unaffected.

You've probably already set things up that way
anyway, and this is just a reminder. I think you
told me you were already running RAID ON and
SATA 1 and SATA 2 ticked.

Pau



No no no,... we went to a screen where it actually
had two boxes that were label Win7 and Win 10 and
we un-ticked Win7. I want to go back and un-tick Win10
but I don't remember where it was or how to get there?

Here are the SATA's; remember it didn't like SATA1 and SATA2
being ticked and gave the F1 error? I did not make any changes.

https://postimg.cc/hXNrMX3J

https://postimg.cc/hJ99rpdw

Robert




You currently have two items ticked.

The bottom pane on the right, says SATA 1 is 2TB hard drive.
Is that the Windows 7 disk ? OK, then you're ready to
reinstall Windows 7.

The SATA 2 drive is the TSSTCorp DVD drive. Which we
don't need right now particularly, but it's handy
to leave it there.

The SATA 3 port is disabled at the moment, so the
bottom pane cannot print out what drive is on
there. It could well be the Windows 10 drive, and
since it is unticked, we know the Windows 10 drive
is not accessible.

So all you have to do right now, is acknowledge that
"2TB 1ER164" is the Windows 7 drive. I think you're
ready to go.

*******

Select an executable suitable for your x64 Win7 (Non-Genuine) OS.
And pray the OS doesn't do something nasty before Setup.exe
has had a chance to start :-)

https://www.osforensics.com/tools/mo...sk-images.html

This shows a picture of a mounted ISO and what some of
the things will look like.

https://i.postimg.cc/G2gwNm6V/OSFMOUNTer.gif

*******

Any time you want to start a fresh thread, Google
Groups will load faster for you.

I notice the Google Groups in-screen search is dead, and
the ability to access a particular "page" in a long
thread, is as slow as molasses now. Truly a victory
for the software people at Google. So much nice
work on their part :-/ It's damn close to useless now.

Paul

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:49:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
You said all I needed was an ISO but now
your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not
going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not
worth it.

I'm not exactly following you,.....

Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file
on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500?
or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put
in downloads on the 780 and then create the file?

Which do you want me to do?

Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been
doing so much I don't remember know how to
locate it again.

Robert


If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it
to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your
Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so
you put the Windows ISO file on the 780.

This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot
USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780
so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have
"File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would
make the job easier).

Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you
grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running,
go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads
folder. You select the Windows ISO.

The OSFMount program will show in its status window,
that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer,
open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and
double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install.
The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes,
then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your
programs and keeping your user data. And the
install will then happen.





I tried to do it but the OSFMount
doesn't respond to anything. I tried
clicking file(upper left) to find the
downloads, and just about everything
but no response at all on anything I
clicked.

https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf

What am I doing wrong?

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:

I tried to do it but the OSFMount
doesn't respond to anything. I tried
clicking file(upper left) to find the
downloads, and just about everything
but no response at all on anything I
clicked.

https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf

What am I doing wrong?

Robert

Have a look at this picture.

https://i.postimg.cc/d3P8mfy9/download-then-run.gif

Paul

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 7:54:21 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried to do it but the OSFMount
doesn't respond to anything. I tried
clicking file(upper left) to find the
downloads, and just about everything
but no response at all on anything I
clicked.

https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf

What am I doing wrong?

Robert

Have a look at this picture.

https://i.postimg.cc/d3P8mfy9/download-then-run.gif

Paul



I followed your instructions but man so many
questions it asked that I just had to guess my
way though since you didn't provide instructions.

I just hope I did this right. It says it needs to
logoff several times during this process.

I elected to install a new copy of Win7 instead of a
upgrading to a newer version thinking it might load
Win 8 or Win 10.

https://postimg.cc/Cz3hhyhf

https://postimg.cc/rzbcj6tY

https://postimg.cc/1gJ1NbQB

https://postimg.cc/XrbR1nNx

https://postimg.cc/K3t9tgTb

https://postimg.cc/dLB6vFm5

https://postimg.cc/gX2XV962

https://postimg.cc/xkTT7vjs

https://postimg.cc/Mns8nhxD

https://postimg.cc/4HJg7ZKW

https://postimg.cc/gxfby3XX

https://postimg.cc/HjWRy6Zv

https://postimg.cc/YLjdyyTp

https://postimg.cc/XZVczzyT

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 7:54:21 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried to do it but the OSFMount
doesn't respond to anything. I tried
clicking file(upper left) to find the
downloads, and just about everything
but no response at all on anything I
clicked.

https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf

What am I doing wrong?

Robert
Have a look at this picture.

https://i.postimg.cc/d3P8mfy9/download-then-run.gif

Paul



I followed your instructions but man so many
questions it asked that I just had to guess my
way though since you didn't provide instructions.

I just hope I did this right. It says it needs to
logoff several times during this process.

I elected to install a new copy of Win7 instead of a
upgrading to a newer version thinking it might load
Win 8 or Win 10.

https://postimg.cc/Cz3hhyhf E drive mounted

https://postimg.cc/rzbcj6tY E listing

https://postimg.cc/1gJ1NbQB W7 installer runs

https://postimg.cc/XrbR1nNx

https://postimg.cc/K3t9tgTb Get updates button

https://postimg.cc/dLB6vFm5 Accept license terms

https://postimg.cc/gX2XV962 "Upgrade" install

https://postimg.cc/xkTT7vjs Install into C: as primary

https://postimg.cc/Mns8nhxD Says moving Windows to Windows.old

https://postimg.cc/4HJg7ZKW Copying files phase...

https://postimg.cc/gxfby3XX

https://postimg.cc/HjWRy6Zv First restart.

https://postimg.cc/YLjdyyTp

https://postimg.cc/XZVczzyT Strangely, status screen is still present?
The DVD image cannot mount at this point
so that isn't possible.
Robert


An "Upgrade" install is functionally a "Repair" install
in this case. While you are clicking the "Upgrade" button,
it is a Repair. It would work like this.

Vista SP2 Push Upgrade button Get Win7 SP1 (equals "an Upgrade")
Win7 SP1 Push Upgrade button Get Win7 SP1 (equals "a Repair")

When the OS comes back up, your desktop icons should
be intact, implying it is finished the Repair.

Since you entered the Refurb key at the start,
then it should also be activated if you look
at the System Control Panel or if you try
this from command prompt

slmgr /dlv

The screen should no longer be black in color.

It should be the blue swirly thing implying it
is activated again.

It looks like it worked, but take a look around and verify.

HTH,
Paul

Success!

https://postimg.cc/G4tHm45g

https://postimg.cc/F1bGQH8J

https://postimg.cc/hzW8Hk0r

https://postimg.cc/qgGc5Z6s

https://postimg.cc/p98zY0tn

https://postimg.cc/c6dwwMkr

https://postimg.cc/Q9mB0wYV

Am presently checking for updates and
then will download Avast etc.

As always, I have unusual problems to solve
and this one unique. So that it can be recovered
with an ISO.

Many thanks for your patience and help
and explaining things. I really appreciate
it.

Is there any thing else we should do at this point?

Robert

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:58:13 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
Success!

https://postimg.cc/BLL5yqDt

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
Success!

https://postimg.cc/G4tHm45g

https://postimg.cc/F1bGQH8J

https://postimg.cc/hzW8Hk0r

https://postimg.cc/qgGc5Z6s

https://postimg.cc/p98zY0tn

https://postimg.cc/c6dwwMkr

https://postimg.cc/Q9mB0wYV

Am presently checking for updates and
then will download Avast etc.

As always, I have unusual problems to solve
and this one unique. So that it can be recovered
with an ISO.

Many thanks for your patience and help
and explaining things. I really appreciate
it.

Is there any thing else we should do at this point?

Robert

I see Windows is being its usual helpful
self with the updates thing.

A repair install takes it back to raw SP1.

There is a rollup that cuts off some of the updates.

"Servicing Stack" - Windows 7 for x64 - 9.1MB (Download the .msu and run it)

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...px?q=KB3020369

"Rollup" - Windows 7 for x64 - 476.9MB (Download the .msu and run it)

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...px?q=KB3125574

After the reboot, there might be a hundred more updates to do.

And that one isn't really all that fast at installing. It
saves some time, but not a lot.

If you want a web site detailing the info above,
try this one. The catalog.update.microsoft.com site is
"all fixed up" now so should work with your browser.
I used the "catalog" site to get both of these.

https://www.howtogeek.com/255435/how...nience-rollup/

*******

If you've pushed the button to install all 150 updates in
one shot before reading this message, relax... it's going
to take hours to do, so be patient. Even if you brought
Windows 7 SP1 up to date with the Wsusoffline kit, it
would still take a *lot* of time.

Interfering with the install order, by doing the top section
of this post, saves about an hour. If you have already pushed
the button, you've probably done an hours worth by now anyway.

Paul

Robert in CA wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:58:13 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
Success!

https://postimg.cc/BLL5yqDt
Robert


Now see, that's huge.

I hope that installs OK.

Paul

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 3:57:27 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:58:13 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
Success!

https://postimg.cc/BLL5yqDt
Robert


Now see, that's huge.

I hope that installs OK.

Paul



I installed all important updates
with (1) remaining and then will
install the (6)optional updates and
in between setting up Explorer
and Firefox for some reason it doesn't
accept my password for Yahoo?

I also tried to download free Avast but
when I did it took me to another screen
where there were (4) download buttons
and didn't know which one to pick.
Why do they make downloads so confusing?

You know my history of picking the wrong
one and I'm not going to risk anything
at this stage so could you please provide
me with a link for Avast free?

I still have malwarebytes, Spywareblaster
SuperantiSpyware to install and I hope they
will be easier.

Robert