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Is this the most efficient way to access most-used folders & the entire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter?
Is this right-click action the most efficient way possible to access
most-used folders & the entire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter? o https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg If not, do you have a MORE EFFICIENT (with less clutter) method of accessing both your most-often-used folders, and the entire file system (when necessary), bearing in mind always that the goal is twofold: a. Extremely high efficiency b. Absolutely zero clutter Can you come up with a better (more efficient, less clutter) method? o If so, please advise as I would love even better folder access efficiency. |
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Is this the most efficient way to access most-used folders & the entire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter?
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 17:49:48 -0000 (UTC), Arlen G. Holder wrote:
Is this right-click action the most efficient way possible to access most-used folders & the entire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter? o https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg If not, do you have a MORE EFFICIENT (with less clutter) method of accessing both your most-often-used folders, Sure -- set up a shortcut to the desired folder, in your Start menu, and assign a key combination to it. Then you don't have to open any program to open your file. and the entire file system (when necessary), Windows+E key combination. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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Is this the most efficient way to access most-used folders & the entire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter?
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:58:56 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:
Sure -- set up a shortcut to the desired folder, in your Start menu, and assign a key combination to it. Then you don't have to open any program to open your file. Hi Stan Brown, Thanks for that suggestion to use the default start menus. Even with Paul's help, I couldn't make the Microsoft start menu efficient. a) Organizing by the alphabet is ridiculous - I organize by functionality b) The binary tiled menu is atrocious in the number of limitations I don't think it's possible to make the start menu even close to efficient. Both Paul and I valiantly tried to wrestle those two Microsoft start menus into submission - but they won - and I lost - and I just gave up on them. It's utterly ridiculous to organize a menu by alphabet - so ridiculous that I won't even argue why as if people don't know - they'll never know why. It's like organizing your school work alphabetically, or organizing your todo list at work alphabetically, or organizing your vehicles in the garage alphabetically or organizing your kids alphabetically, etc. It's ridiculous for "functional" things to organize them alphabetically. o You organize them by what they do functionality As for the tiled menu, it's "just ok" but the severe limitations of that binary menu make it, essentially, worthless (ask Paul - he and I struggled with that damn thing - which isn't what it appears to be when you dig into it). That makes the entire Microsoft Windows 10 start menu ... an abomination. o Luckily, Windows 10 always had the classic menu of WinXP native! and the entire file system Windows+E key combination. Thanks for that suggestion for greater efficiency (which is what I am). That keyboard combo does seem to be more efficient, particularly since we use the file system all the time - although generally - we only use a few folders if we have things aptly organized. For me, I use only three folders, and I _never_ use a folder inside the idiotically deep Microsoft default "user" hierarchy (I move the handful of folders, like Screenshots, that I do use, OUT of that idiotically deep hierarchy, into a location higher up in the logical hierarchy). While I agree that the keyboard shortcut _is_ more efficient, I don't generally use keyboard shortcuts (other than the windows+printscreen to snapshot a PNG file into C:\tmp\screenshots\.), so I need to look at them more thoroughly and keep a cheat-sheet on the PC at Start Run keyboard Which can be created using the aforementioned "AppPaths" key. REFERENCES: o How can we further IMPROVE the efficiency of the Windows left-side desktop pane? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/OoKl4lKrFUc/vw8ozQdkAQAJ o Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows menu system https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/eWU-jOkFRtU/lkVU8yolBQAJ o Why does anyone bother to install Classic Shell on Windows if all they want is the WinXP accordion-style sliding cascade Start Menu? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/dTHKXIdlqcw/6e7e7dq_AQAJ o Please follow this cut-and-paste tutorial to get batch command shortcuts working perfectly on Windows https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/1PzeGP4KMTU/tTbcd9zxAAAJ o Quick tutorial for creating easy (Start Run) access to lookup files on Windows https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/5LxGOixwwWs/q8wVoJ3mBAAJ o Quick customized-installation tutorial for setting up gVim on Windows https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/BpPrLrSCza4/4fyzTCGFCAAJ o How do I get rid of the document-type clutter in the Windows Right-Click New menu? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/_WWt3ACAJac/PzWUuGmSAAAJ o SOLVED: I finally figured out how to open by doubleclicking text files (like HOSTS) with no file extension in Windows in the editor of choice https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/en6X6eR8ox8/keHCCEWIAAAJ o What's the best way to MOVE an app to where it belongs, after it has already been installed? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/hqKijRgHOC0/vB3pH-sZAgAJ o What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/ySVGbayhLSk/zXK3PjijAwAJ o What do I need to do to get Windows to show decent editors in the right-click context menu? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/5_YKq4tlxgo/rpljN29ACgAJ o What Windows 10 default files contain lots of useful icons for shortcuts to be set to? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/-1nQdP8E_Yc/VILrouTSBAAJ o Tutorial: How to install the free Brave privacy-based tor-enabled web browser where YOU want it to install (and how to save a full offline installer in the process) https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/trm_i2aooeE/4yqA72AvBgAJ o What is the easiest way to edit the hosts file on Windows as admin? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/jZPq550lFuQ/6SYB68vQBQAJ etc. |
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Is this the most efficient way to access most-used folders & theentire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter?
On 8/7/2019 12:30 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:58:56 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: Sure -- set up a shortcut to the desired folder, in your Start menu, and assign a key combination to it. Then you don't have to open any program to open your file. Hi Stan Brown, As for the tiled menu, it's "just ok" but the severe limitations of that binary menu make it, essentially, worthless (ask Paul - he and I struggled with that damn thing - which isn't what it appears to be when you dig into it). tically deep Microsoft default "user" hierarchy (I move the handful of folders, like Screenshots, that I do use, OUT of that idiotically deep hierarchy, into a location higher up in the logical hierarchy). While I agree that the keyboard shortcut _is_ more efficient, I don't generally use keyboard shortcuts (other than the windows+printscreen to o What is the easiest way to edit the hosts file on Windows as admin? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/jZPq550lFuQ/6SYB68vQBQAJ etc. As I understand the question, it is "How to set up Windows to quickly access folders" I have create a short cut to File explorer and placed it in the Toolbar so I can access it by clicking on the toolbar icon. Using the Jumplist for the File explorer icon, I have one click access to my recenly used folders, and two click access to any file that is is in those folders. For those frequently used folders I pin them to the Jumplist When I placed icons to the individual folders on the toolbar. But over time from speed and space consideration, I added the File Explorer icon to the toolbar. -- Judge your ancestors by how well they met their standards not yours. They did not know your standards, so could not try to meet them. |
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Is this the most efficient way to access most-used folders & the entire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter?
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 13:31:54 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have create a short cut to File explorer and placed it in the Toolbar so I can access it by clicking on the toolbar icon. Using the Jumplist for the File explorer icon, I have one click access to my recenly used folders, and two click access to any file that is is in those folders. For those frequently used folders I pin them to the Jumplist Hi Keith Nuttle, Yours is a great suggestion which is efficient, and which is what I do. https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg No menu should ever change, IMHO, automatically - unless it _always_ does the right thing (and you can just about forget that happening). Hence, notice I make one slight modification, which is that I deplore "recently used" crutches so I turn everything off such that _all_ my computers (whether at work or at home or at my side gig) have the exact same jump list _all_ the time (it never changes - and - it hasn't changed in decades). The jump list contains a pointer to the only 9 folders that matter 1. All my installed applications, organized by functionality 2. All my personal data, organized in a meaningful way to me 3. All my archived installers (including apps not yet installed) 4. All my temporary stuff (e.g., downloads, scratch files, etc.) 5. ===== A pointer to the Microsoft "special" folders 6. Specific data folders I use a lot (e.g., phone backup) 7. Certain special folders I use a lot (e.g., Screenshots) 8. Temporary scratch folders I use a lot (e.g., my Uploads) 9. Functional folders I use a lot (e.g., thousands of VPN config files) https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg What you won't notice from that screenshot is that those folders NEVER CHANGE in that jump list. They're always exactly teh same all the time. (I don't like menus 'changing' on me.) Given the Microsoft-defined 9-folder limit of that menu structure, what I do is _plan_ ahead, by having all my most used (actually, almost exclusively used) folders in that "jump list" you speak of. If I need to go somewhere else, the "=====" jump item has a link to all the necessary Microsoft "special" folders (e.g., Users, Veracrypt shortcuts that open entire encrypted drives, Microsoft Favorites, Microsoft Desktop, Microsoft Downloads, etc.). Notice that we use the same mechanism, with the difference that o Mine is exactly the same on all machines at all times o Which adds an efficiency that everything is exactly where it belongs https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg With that difference - what we use is exactly the same, as it's one of the most efficient GUIs that Microsoft ever delivered (other than the original WinXP style cascaded accordion start menu - which even Windows 10 has native - but most people don't seem to realize that the WinXP style start menu was always there, native, in Windows 10): https://i.postimg.cc/02Hh2vq9/menu-access-01.jpg When I placed icons to the individual folders on the toolbar. But over time from speed and space consideration, I added the File Explorer icon to the toolbar. Yup. I did exactly the same thing - but with much more error on my part! 1. First I tried to wrestle both Win10 native start menus (& gave up) 2. Then I tried to add stuff to the right-click menu (which partly works) 3. Then I tried to add apps to the cascade menu (which works for shortcuts) 4. Then I used what you use, which is this pinned "jump list" for folders That pinned jump list works well but the problem it has is that it's not consistent by default - but I just set it up to be consistent - and then I put the _same_ jump list on _all_ my computers - and now every computer is consistent - which is the height of efficiency. No menu should ever change, IMHO, automatically - unless it _always_ does the right thing (and you can just about forget that happening). In the end, the efficient thing to do which doesn't require memory is: A. Folders are found instantly through the "jump list" method you used B. Programs are started instantly through the Win10-native WinXP cascade menu I also have a native WinXP cascade menu for all folders, but I don't use it much simply because the "jump list" contains the 9 most often used folders, where the "=====" entry contains another dozen or so - which is pretty much efficient access to all my folders. In addition, it's useful to remind folks that these three hierarchies are always exactly the same - on all machines - over decades - again - for efficiency. a. The folder hierarchy for the installed programs (only what's installed) b. The folder hierarchy for the archived installers (contains many more) c. The Win10-native WinXP style menu hierarchy to the installed executables In summary, organizing efficiently is something we can all pitch in together since we all have useful tricks to share with everyone else on this Usenet potluck where everyone brings something of value to share. |
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 16:30:08 -0000 (UTC), Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:58:56 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: Sure -- set up a shortcut to the desired folder, in your Start menu, and assign a key combination to it. Then you don't have to open any program to open your file. I don't think it's possible to make the start menu even close to efficient. It looks like you overlooked a key step: assign a key combination to it. Then you just use the key combination, with no need to navigate the Start Menu. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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Is this the most efficient way to access most-used folders & theentire file system with the LEAST amount of clutter?
On 8/7/2019 4:10 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 13:31:54 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I have create a short cut to File explorer and placed it in the Toolbar so I can access it by clicking on the toolbar icon. Using the Jumplist for the File explorer icon, I have one click access to my recenly used folders, and two click access to any file that is is in those folders. For those frequently used folders I pin them to the Jumplist Hi Keith Nuttle, Yours is a great suggestion which is efficient, and which is what I do. https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg No menu should ever change, IMHO, automatically - unless it _always_ does the right thing (and you can just about forget that happening). Hence, notice I make one slight modification, which is that I deplore "recently used" crutches so I turn everything off such that _all_ my computers (whether at work or at home or at my side gig) have the exact same jump list _all_ the time (it never changes - and - it hasn't changed in decades). The jump list contains a pointer to the only 9 folders that matter 1. All my installed applications, organized by functionality 2. All my personal data, organized in a meaningful way to me 3. All my archived installers (including apps not yet installed) 4. All my temporary stuff (e.g., downloads, scratch files, etc.) 5. ===== A pointer to the Microsoft "special" folders 6. Specific data folders I use a lot (e.g., phone backup) 7. Certain special folders I use a lot (e.g., Screenshots) 8. Temporary scratch folders I use a lot (e.g., my Uploads) 9. Functional folders I use a lot (e.g., thousands of VPN config files) https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg What you won't notice from that screenshot is that those folders NEVER CHANGE in that jump list. They're always exactly teh same all the time. (I don't like menus 'changing' on me.) Given the Microsoft-defined 9-folder limit of that menu structure, what I do is _plan_ ahead, by having all my most used (actually, almost exclusively used) folders in that "jump list" you speak of. If I need to go somewhere else, the "=====" jump item has a link to all the necessary Microsoft "special" folders (e.g., Users, Veracrypt shortcuts that open entire encrypted drives, Microsoft Favorites, Microsoft Desktop, Microsoft Downloads, etc.). Notice that we use the same mechanism, with the difference that o Mine is exactly the same on all machines at all times o Which adds an efficiency that everything is exactly where it belongs https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg With that difference - what we use is exactly the same, as it's one of the most efficient GUIs that Microsoft ever delivered (other than the original WinXP style cascaded accordion start menu - which even Windows 10 has native - but most people don't seem to realize that the WinXP style start menu was always there, native, in Windows 10): https://i.postimg.cc/02Hh2vq9/menu-access-01.jpg When I placed icons to the individual folders on the toolbar. But over time from speed and space consideration, I added the File Explorer icon to the toolbar. Yup. I did exactly the same thing - but with much more error on my part! 1. First I tried to wrestle both Win10 native start menus (& gave up) 2. Then I tried to add stuff to the right-click menu (which partly works) 3. Then I tried to add apps to the cascade menu (which works for shortcuts) 4. Then I used what you use, which is this pinned "jump list" for folders That pinned jump list works well but the problem it has is that it's not consistent by default - but I just set it up to be consistent - and then I put the _same_ jump list on _all_ my computers - and now every computer is consistent - which is the height of efficiency. No menu should ever change, IMHO, automatically - unless it _always_ does the right thing (and you can just about forget that happening). In the end, the efficient thing to do which doesn't require memory is: A. Folders are found instantly through the "jump list" method you used B. Programs are started instantly through the Win10-native WinXP cascade menu I also have a native WinXP cascade menu for all folders, but I don't use it much simply because the "jump list" contains the 9 most often used folders, where the "=====" entry contains another dozen or so - which is pretty much efficient access to all my folders. In addition, it's useful to remind folks that these three hierarchies are always exactly the same - on all machines - over decades - again - for efficiency. a. The folder hierarchy for the installed programs (only what's installed) b. The folder hierarchy for the archived installers (contains many more) c. The Win10-native WinXP style menu hierarchy to the installed executables In summary, organizing efficiently is something we can all pitch in together since we all have useful tricks to share with everyone else on this Usenet potluck where everyone brings something of value to share. It seems like you are using something other than Windows 10. I have been using Windows 10 since it was released. With the File Explorer icon on the Taskbar at the bottom of the Desktop. To access the disk all I need to do is right click on the File Explorer in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. If I want a folder, I just left click on the File explorer Icon and select the folder I want. Unless you clear the files from the program (ie clear the cache in Firefox) the files will remain in the jumplist when the computer is turned off. If you pin the folder to the File Explorer icon it will be there forever, and not change until you change it. -- Judge your ancestors by how well they met their standards not yours. They did not know your standards, so could not try to meet them. |
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 20:41:46 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
It seems like you are using something other than Windows 10. I have been using Windows 10 since it was released. Hi Keith, Naaah. It's native Windows 10 Pro ... just like everyone else has... but a. With the "Task Bar" moved to the left side (for real estate reasons) b. And with the "File Explorer" icon changed (to make it stand out better) https://i.postimg.cc/N01wr01J/folder-access-01.jpg With the File Explorer icon on the Taskbar at the bottom of the Desktop. It's the _same_ as what you have - only with the Task Bar moved to the left and the File Explorer icon changed from a yellow folder to a green arrow. To access the disk all I need to do is right click on the File Explorer in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. If I want a folder, I just left click on the File explorer Icon and select the folder I want. Yup. That's exactly what I do... but the difference is that I have the folders statically locked in the "File Explorer" on _all_ my machines to the exact same folders. This gains an efficiency on all systems that I work on which makes it trivial to get to exactly the folders I want without any extra clicks. The goal is to be as efficient as humanly possible. o That means the _fewest_ possible clicks - without needing memory. Your advice is very helpful - which I greatly appreciate. |
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