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Old August 5th 19, 12:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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Hi All,

Yes, I am cross posting. Bite me!

This is a nice video on the upcoming USB 4 standard:

There’s ANOTHER Version of USB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0W7fHJMnyg

Basically, it is Thunderbolt without the license to
Intel and missing some various proprietary features
of Thunderbolt, although if you pay the license to
Intel, you can have those features back.

USB 4 is an open standard, so no licenses

USB 4 has borrow bandwidth from itself to make
for asymmetrical upload and downloads.

I think I am going t0 really like USB 4. If you
are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will
probably will adore USB 4 too.

-T
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Old August 5th 19, 01:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
The Natural Philosopher[_2_]
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On 05/08/2019 00:57, T wrote:
Hi All,

Yes, I am cross posting.Â* Bite me!

This is a nice video on the upcoming USB 4 standard:

There’s ANOTHER Version of USB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0W7fHJMnyg

Basically, it is Thunderbolt without the license to
Intel and missing some various proprietary features
of Thunderbolt, although if you pay the license to
Intel, you can have those features back.

USB 4 is an open standard, so no licenses

USB 4 has borrow bandwidth from itself to make
for asymmetrical upload and downloads.

I think I am going t0 really like USB 4.Â* If you
are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will
probably will adore USB 4 too.

-T

I try not to have emotional attachments to communications protocols


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thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."

- Leo Tolstoy
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Old August 5th 19, 01:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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A USB chart:

Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name
5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s USB 4
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Old August 5th 19, 01:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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On 8/4/19 5:08 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
IÂ*tryÂ*notÂ*toÂ*haveÂ*emotionalÂ*attachmentsÂ*to *communicationsÂ*protocols

I remember when e-sata was the cure all. I still use
it, but it has it limitations. Mostly I use it for
external backup with older computers that only support
USB 2.
  #5  
Old August 5th 19, 02:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_7_]
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In message , T writes:
A USB chart:

Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name
5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s USB 4

OK, _a_ USB chart. You left out USB1 slow, USB1 fast, and USB2.
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happens to rhyme. - Pam Ayres, interviwed in RT 2018/3/17-23
  #6  
Old August 5th 19, 02:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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On 8/4/19 6:07 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , T writes:
A USB chart:

Max speedÂ*Â*Â* OriginalÂ*Â* RenamedÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Renamed againÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Marketing
name
5 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 3.0Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 1Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 1Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 2Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â *Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2Â*Â* SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 4

OK, _a_ USB chart. You left out USB1 slow, USB1 fast, and USB2.

I was only going for 3+ and showing all the weird names

You can add to the chart and get back to us
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Old August 5th 19, 10:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
Anssi Saari
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T writes:

I think I am going t0 really like USB 4. If you
are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will
probably will adore USB 4 too.

If only we could just forget the naming mess we have with USB 3.anything
now...
  #8  
Old August 5th 19, 03:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
Paul[_32_]
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T wrote:
Hi All,

Yes, I am cross posting. Bite me!

This is a nice video on the upcoming USB 4 standard:

There’s ANOTHER Version of USB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0W7fHJMnyg

Basically, it is Thunderbolt without the license to
Intel and missing some various proprietary features
of Thunderbolt, although if you pay the license to
Intel, you can have those features back.

USB 4 is an open standard, so no licenses

USB 4 has borrow bandwidth from itself to make
for asymmetrical upload and downloads.

I think I am going t0 really like USB 4. If you
are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will
probably will adore USB 4 too.

-T


A 6 foot cable is $74 in local currency.
Now, we re-stamp the cable as "USB4" and away we go.

https://www.amazon.ca/Cable-Matters-.../dp/B01H5QF2TK

Yes, amazing technology.

I hear Bill Gates may buy one.

"I need to run USB4 to my back yard.
What kind of cables do I need ?"

Indeed.

Paul
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Old August 6th 19, 05:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
Shadow
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:

A USB chart:

Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name
5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s USB 4

Could you re-code that table plix?
[]'s
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Old August 6th 19, 11:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:

A USB chart:

Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name
5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s USB 4

Could you re-code that table plix?
[]'s


What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor
so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls
by your eMail client.
  #11  
Old August 7th 19, 01:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
Shadow
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:27:09 -0700, T wrote:

On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:

A USB chart:

Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name
5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s USB 4

Could you re-code that table plix?
[]'s


What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor
so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls
by your eMail client.

Like this ?

Max speed,Original,Renamed,Renamed again,Marketing name
5 Gbit/s,USB 3.0,USB 3.1 Gen 1,USB 3.2 Gen 1,SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s,USB 3.1 Gen 2,USB 3.2 Gen 2,SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s,USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2,SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s,USB 4
[]'s
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Old August 7th 19, 03:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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Default Tip: USB 4 explained
On 8/7/19 5:25 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:27:09 -0700, T wrote:

On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:

A USB chart:

Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name
5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s USB 4

Could you re-code that table plix?
[]'s


What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor
so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls
by your eMail client.

Like this ?

Max speed,Original,Renamed,Renamed again,Marketing name
5 Gbit/s,USB 3.0,USB 3.1 Gen 1,USB 3.2 Gen 1,SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s,USB 3.1 Gen 2,USB 3.2 Gen 2,SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s,USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2,SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s,USB 4
[]'s


A little harder to read what columns go with what, but
it will do
  #13  
Old August 7th 19, 04:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
Paul[_32_]
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T wrote:
On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:

A USB chart:

Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing
name
5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1
SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/s USB 4

Could you re-code that table plix?
[]'s


What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor
so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls
by your eMail client.

https://i.postimg.cc/VND3wXhZ/text-h...make-sense.gif

Paul
  #14  
Old August 7th 19, 05:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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On 8/7/19 8:11 AM, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:

A USB chart:

Max speedÂ*Â*Â* OriginalÂ*Â* RenamedÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Renamed again
Marketing name
Â* 5 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 3.0Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 1Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 2Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â *Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2Â*Â* SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 4

Â*Â*Â* Could you re-code that table plix?
Â*Â*Â* []'s


What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor
so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls
by your eMail client.

https://i.postimg.cc/VND3wXhZ/text-h...make-sense.gif

Â*Â* Paul

Plus it scrolls perfectly on my machine: Thunderbird 60.8.0
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Old August 7th 19, 05:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.os.linux.misc
T
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Default Tip: USB 4 explained
On 8/6/19 3:27 PM, T wrote:
On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:

A USB chart:

Max speedÂ*Â*Â* OriginalÂ*Â* RenamedÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Renamed againÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Marketing
name
Â* 5 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 3.0Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 1Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 1
SuperSpeed USB
10 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 2Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed
USB 10 Gbps
20 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â *Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2Â*Â* SuperSpeed
USB 20 Gbps
40 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 4

Â*Â*Â*Â*Could you re-code that table plix?
Â*Â*Â*Â*[]'s


What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor
so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls
by your eMail client.

If you paste into a word processor, select a monospaced font
 
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