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On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-8, Mark Twain wrote:
I have ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 is that OK? Robert I found an downloaded version 2.5.8. http://i64.tinypic.com/2zxqmxl.jpg will try again, Robert |
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hows this?
http://i64.tinypic.com/152dv61.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/34hvyh5.jpg Now will run Kapersky Rescue CD and will let you know the outcome. Thanks, Robert |
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I inserted the Kapersky Rescue CD and it
came up again 'database corrupted'. I updated it and still says 'database corrupted. Here's the CD: http://i68.tinypic.com/s1j539.jpg Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I inserted the Kapersky Rescue CD and it came up again 'database corrupted'. I updated it and still says 'database corrupted. Here's the CD: http://i68.tinypic.com/s1j539.jpg Robert My disc with the 313,604,096 byte count, shows "obsolete" for the database, rather than "corrupted". Obsolete just means it needs to update. It will download close to 200MB of database files if/when you click the update button. https://s17.postimg.org/vu0ktxim7/mar_2017_disc.gif Make sure you remove the Kaspersky folder right under C: and put it in the Trash, before booting that CD again. Paul |
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There is no Kapersky folder/file ... I
tried again with the same results. I didn't think to do this before but I took pics this time to show you. At first it flashes 'corrupted' which disappears but when I click on Updates it's there and the logo remains red versus green. http://i67.tinypic.com/2j662yq.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/qxjxjb.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/14v4r5x.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/vfcs5t.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/2h56z3k.jpg Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
There is no Kapersky folder/file ... I tried again with the same results. I didn't think to do this before but I took pics this time to show you. At first it flashes 'corrupted' which disappears but when I click on Updates it's there and the logo remains red versus green. http://i67.tinypic.com/2j662yq.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/qxjxjb.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/14v4r5x.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/vfcs5t.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/2h56z3k.jpg Robert OK, your fourth picture says Completed 17515 days ago Yet your first picture shows your Kaspersky folder was deleted. These two pictures don't jibe with one another. It can only know about "17515 days", if it has a Kaspersky folder with some sort of info in it. How many hard drives are in the computer at the moment you boot the Kaspersky CD ? The Kaspersky folder can be stored on *any* C: drive. For example, I have a Win2K disk and a WinXP disk in the computer. The Kaspersky folder goes into the Win2K C: drive, even though I almost never use it. One thing the Kaspersky boot CD looks for, is a pagefile.sys to use. That is used to hold the Linux swap for the boot CD OS. It finds such files on OS partitions. It searches the computer, looking for the first pagefile it can find. It puts the Kaspersky folder on that same partition. In addition, it queries the registry of that selected C: partition, to get "mountvol" info. That's how it decides what drive letters to use for each partition. So when it refers to C: as in your fourth picture. that's the same C: it has the pagefile on, and it should also be the same C: with the Kaspersky folder. In my case, the letters it extracts from the Win2K registry file, cause the disk I want to scan to be called E: . Which is not someone would predict in advance. As a result, the letter choices shown by Kaspersky should be treated with suspicion, until you verify which partition is which by looking at the partition contents. In your fifth picture, it shows the "corrupt" status. The database date is 12/15/2017. So the database that picture is using, is from when you were fooling around a few days ago (with the "bad" CD). Make *sure* you've removed the Kaspersky folder from the top level of all OS C: partitions. If you have your backup drive connected, maybe it's finding a folder on there. Then try your Mar 2017 CD version again. Paul |
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I only have the 1 HD in the computer and I
do not attach external HD's unless I'm doing backups and there are no flash keys attached. Here's my partitions........ http://i68.tinypic.com/333h5x4.jpg I've already removed all the Kapersky files, that I'm aware of, if there are more I do not know where they are. Perhaps I should use Agent Ransack to find them? How can a newly made CD be bad? The only CD I have is the last one I made from your link. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I only have the 1 HD in the computer and I do not attach external HD's unless I'm doing backups and there are no flash keys attached. Here's my partitions........ http://i68.tinypic.com/333h5x4.jpg I've already removed all the Kapersky files, that I'm aware of, if there are more I do not know where they are. Perhaps I should use Agent Ransack to find them? How can a newly made CD be bad? The only CD I have is the last one I made from your link. Robert When you used Imgburn, the disc contents were verified against the ISO file, to ensure correct-ness. So it passed and the disc isn't corrupted. A disc could obviously read bad a second time, if it was marginal. But the verify runs at "max speed", and gives the disk data a good workout. If the data was marginal, there's a good chance the problem would show up during the verify. All I can tell you is, the Mar 2017 disc I used, said the database was "obsolete", not "corrupted", and obsolete means it can be repaired by a download. I'm not really sure why the disc cannot download fresh copies of any "corrupted" files. If you look at how the Kaspersky disc works, it's very careful with those files. It scans them for trouble. It verifies the checksum on each file. If you examine the contents of the "bases" folder on the ISO, it uses crypto, presumably to prevent an AV competitor from stealing the database contents. There have been cases before, where another company steals the files. To stop that, Kaspersky used to put "extra" "bogus" definitions in a file, to trip up a competitor. The disc contents consist of two key parts. 1) A set of URLs, as to which server or servers to contact to get update files. On some days, you may find there is an extra delay, before files are downloaded, and this is the Kaspersky CD having to check the alternate servers for files. If you don't have the correct URLs, then the CD won't be able to do any updates at all. 2) The "bases" folder has several hundred files which represent all the virus definitions. But the assembly of such is tricky, and I don't know of an easy way to do "surgery" to remove just the wrong thing. If the error message said which file was bad, things might be different. And since the CD refuses to "correct" just the corrupted part, that doesn't suggest that deleting "Bases" on the ISO, will do any good. The stupid thing will probably stop dead if you do that. The bases folder gets copied to the C:\Kaspersky folder the first time the CD is used. In your case, you did clean things out properly, so it's not like the bad files were left behind. That means I'm out of things to try. ******* If you're getting bored with Kaspersky, this is another freebie. I think I've only tried this the one time. This one comes closer to filling a CD, at 667MB. https://www.bitdefender.com/support/...ue-cd-627.html http://download.bitdefender.com/resc...-rescue-cd.iso Paul |
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I'm not getting bored with Kapersky I just don't understand why it keeps coming back corrupted when I've deleted the files and emptied the trash and used a new CD to create a Kapersky Rescue CD using the link you gave me. I realize I screwed up with the copy/paste but that has been corrected above. So I don't understand why it's not working I'll try your new link with a new CD and let you know what happens. In passing, I ran malwarebytes yesterday and it had 55 threats! I had not seen these before! I quarantined them all and then deleted them. Ten ran mawarebytes again which came up clean. Could this be part of the problem and why my F8 no longer functions? http://i63.tinypic.com/24xmf6e.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/168j5ee.jpg Robert |
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I'm not getting tired of Kapersky but I
don't understand why it isn't working. I did screw up at first with the copy/paste but I corrected that when you reminded me to use Imgbrun. I deleted all the Kapersky files and emptied the trash as per your instructions and used a new CD-RW to create the Kapersky Rescue CD and I verified the CD as well so it should be OK. In passing, I did a malwarebytes scan last night which found 55 threats! I had never seen those before and I do regular scans. So I quarantined and deleted them, and then ran malwarebytes again which came up clean. http://i68.tinypic.com/166ep21.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/168j5ee.jpg Could this be part of the problem and maybe the reason why my F8 no longer functions? I'll try your other link and let you know the results. Thanks, Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I'm not getting bored with Kapersky I just don't understand why it keeps coming back corrupted when I've deleted the files and emptied the trash and used a new CD to create a Kapersky Rescue CD using the link you gave me. I realize I screwed up with the copy/paste but that has been corrected above. So I don't understand why it's not working I'll try your new link with a new CD and let you know what happens. In passing, I ran malwarebytes yesterday and it had 55 threats! I had not seen these before! I quarantined them all and then deleted them. Ten ran mawarebytes again which came up clean. Could this be part of the problem and why my F8 no longer functions? http://i63.tinypic.com/24xmf6e.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/168j5ee.jpg Robert So it did find a PUP ? (I can see it in the first picture.) The second picture says "WinYahoo" and "ByteFence". ByteFence is a "pretend" anti-malware that puts up fake warnings about malware. And one hit in Google mentions it does URL redirection. And WinYahoo does redirection too. WinYahoo has nothing to do with Yahoo. It just borrows the name. https://blog.malwarebytes.com/detect...onal-winyahoo/ ******* Did your problem stop completely ? Or does Malwarebytes find the same culprits back again today too ? You know how you've had trouble in the past, that kept coming back. Paul |
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I haven't heard the problem return so maybe those
55 malwarebyte threat files were the culprit? I created a new Bitdefender CD http://i64.tinypic.com/2e6au76.jpg and then ran the scan which came up clean http://i64.tinypic.com/2h4yibp.jpg afterwards I ran another malwarebytes scan which also came up clean http://i63.tinypic.com/54dkcx.jpg I then restarted the 8500 to check the F8 function and still does not work and goes directly to the MBR Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
.... I then restarted the 8500 to check the F8 function and still does not work and goes directly to the MBR Robert Does your BIOS key work ? Can you get into the BIOS ? Apparently some computers have a BIOS setting to disable F8 (the popup boot key). ******* If you're using the F8 key for Safe mode, there are a couple links below with info. The method to getting to Safe Mode, changes from one OS version to the next. They're not always consistent with this stuff. In this sample article for Windows 7, none of the options is particularly attractive, for getting into Safe Mode. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...safe-mode.html This link shows how, but the timing can be tricky depending on the setup. I have a couple OS disks set up to put up the black screen with the OS listed in it, so I can do those. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...t-options.html Not all the bcdedit examples I find in articles like these, work out as expected. Things were a bit more predictable back in the Windows XP days. For example, I have a dual boot Windows 10 setup (two OSes on one disk), where a lot of these examples just don't work, and the OS goes right ahead and ignores user input. Paul |
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The first link suggests changing the user account
and logging out of safe mode and logging in as another user. That isn't the problem,...... The second link is exactly what i'm doing but neither the F8 or F12 are working ,... I even tried F10 because I read somewhere to use that instead of F12 but it didn't work either. I'm not trying to get into Safe Mode per se, I'm just saying the F8 and F12 keys aren't functioning. Normally, when logging on the F12 flashes on the top right of the screen but it doesn't do that it goes straight to the MBR and there is only one choice: Windows 7 Whereas I tested the 780 and the F12 flashed as I logged on and both the F8 and F12 worked and instead of just Windows 7 to choose from, it had Windows 7 and Restore. So the 780 is functioning normally but the 8500 isn't. I hope your not going to tell me that we need to rebuild the entire HD all over again to regain this feature. Robert |
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