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Old September 28th 09, 12:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

Twayne wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:42:57 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:44:43 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:
(I'll miss OE in Windows 7, that's for sure.)

Why? There are many other programs that do e-mail and/or newsgroups,
and several of them are arguably better than Outlook Express. I've
been using Outlook for e-mail and Forte Agent for newsgroups for
many years, and I prefer them to Outlook Express. It's your choice,
of course, and you don't have to do things my way, but I do suggest
that you at least try some of the alternatives.

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Thanks for the responses, Ken!


You're welcome. Glad to help.



I guess what I'll miss is the comfort level of OE. I've used it
since it was first released with Windows, and have never had a need
to try anything else for news.
But, since 7 isn't going to include a client, I'll need to use
something else.
I own Office 2003 which is why I was asking about the need for OE. I
guess the better question would have been, "If I install OL2003 in
Windows 7, am I going to able to access my newsgroups?" Without a
3rd-party news reader, I guess the answer is "No."



No, the answer isn't "no." Yes, you need a program that doesn't come
with Windows 7, but no, it doesn't have to be third-party. You can
download and install the Microsoft program Windows Live Mail.


In fact, he could go ahead and download IE6 and then use its OE6 if he
didn't mind a little extra baggage along for the ride. Then adding IE7
or 8 after that will leave OE6 still working. I didn't think it'd work,
but it did. It worked out fine on an Acer I just got done with last
week. Got a thank you from him today; checked headers & it was written
in OE6.

Regards,

Twayne`


And this would work in Windows 7? I can't believe
Win7 would allow IE6 to even be installed. But
then again, I didn't think Yugo's would ever sell
in the U.S.

SC Tom




I don't have any experience with this, but I believe it is much like
Outlook Express.


I'm familiar with Outlook (used it for many years at work), so I
knew it had no native ability to access newsgroups. I have an older
version of Forte (3.something), but never really liked it. I fired
it up today to see what I could do with it, and still don't like it.
Maybe I'll try T'Bird for a change.


The current version of Forte's program called "Agent" is 5.0, so if
you've only looked at a 3.something version, you might find the new
one very different and much better.

Again, not trying to talk you into anything, but I have a couple of
suggestions for you:

1. Firing it up today (even if it were the current version) doesn't
give you a good enough view of any newsreader. "Today" just isn't long
enough. They are all different, with different strengths and
weaknesses, and to get to know those strengths and weaknesses and how
well they fit into your way of working requires that you use the
product for several days and play around with its different settings.
Since most of these are shareware and at the every least, you should
be able to get a trial version, I recommend you try each for about a
week.

2. I've tried lots of newsreaders, and each one I've tried has had
some features I liked better than Outlook Express's and some features
I didn't like as much. I settled on Agent because it best fit my
personal way of working. Sure, try Thunderbird. But also try Agent 5.0
and as many others as you have time for. Here's a list of most of
what's available: http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html

There are a lot on that list, and undoubtedly you won't have the time
and patience to try them all, but besides Agent and Mozilla, Gravity,
News Rover, and NewsAgent are well-respected. I recommend that you try
at least those, and others here may have other recommendations for
you.

3. Most important, make your own choice, and don't listen to what I
(or anyone else) likes best, other than perhaps to give the choice of
someone you respect a try.




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Old September 28th 09, 02:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ken Blake, MVP
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:37:29 -0400, SC Tom wrote:


Since I'll be in the market for and email client and newsreader
all-in-one,



Lots of people disagree with me, but I see *no* advantage in having an
e-mail client and a newsreader in the same package. I'd just as soon
have two completely separate programs.


I think I give T'Bird and Agent a try. I installed and am
trying out T'Bird right now, and it's pretty darn close to OE. There are
a few options missing that I liked in OE, but that's going to be the
case with any of them. I'll use it for a while, then try Agent for
(maybe) the 30 day period.

Thanks for your suggestions. You are definitely one of the ones here
that I respect your input.



Thanks for the kind words.

K

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Old September 28th 09, 03:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
SC Tom[_3_]
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:37:29 -0400, SC Tom wrote:


Since I'll be in the market for and email client and newsreader
all-in-one,



Lots of people disagree with me, but I see *no* advantage in having an
e-mail client and a newsreader in the same package. I'd just as soon
have two completely separate programs.


I agree, there really is no advantage. But I'd
just as soon have them both together rather than
separate.

Thanks again for your time.



I think I give T'Bird and Agent a try. I installed and am
trying out T'Bird right now, and it's pretty darn close to OE. There are
a few options missing that I liked in OE, but that's going to be the
case with any of them. I'll use it for a while, then try Agent for
(maybe) the 30 day period.

Thanks for your suggestions. You are definitely one of the ones here
that I respect your input.



Thanks for the kind words.

K

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Old September 28th 09, 03:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Bill in Co.
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

SC Tom wrote:
Twayne wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:42:57 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:44:43 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:
(I'll miss OE in Windows 7, that's for sure.)

Why? There are many other programs that do e-mail and/or newsgroups,
and several of them are arguably better than Outlook Express. I've
been using Outlook for e-mail and Forte Agent for newsgroups for
many years, and I prefer them to Outlook Express. It's your choice,
of course, and you don't have to do things my way, but I do suggest
that you at least try some of the alternatives.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Thanks for the responses, Ken!

You're welcome. Glad to help.



I guess what I'll miss is the comfort level of OE. I've used it
since it was first released with Windows, and have never had a need
to try anything else for news.
But, since 7 isn't going to include a client, I'll need to use
something else.
I own Office 2003 which is why I was asking about the need for OE. I
guess the better question would have been, "If I install OL2003 in
Windows 7, am I going to able to access my newsgroups?" Without a
3rd-party news reader, I guess the answer is "No."


No, the answer isn't "no." Yes, you need a program that doesn't come
with Windows 7, but no, it doesn't have to be third-party. You can
download and install the Microsoft program Windows Live Mail.


In fact, he could go ahead and download IE6 and then use its OE6 if he
didn't mind a little extra baggage along for the ride. Then adding IE7
or 8 after that will leave OE6 still working. I didn't think it'd work,
but it did. It worked out fine on an Acer I just got done with last
week. Got a thank you from him today; checked headers & it was written
in OE6.

Regards,

Twayne`


And this would work in Windows 7? I can't believe
Win7 would allow IE6 to even be installed.


I don't believe it either. I think he's on drugs.


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Old September 28th 09, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ken Blake, MVP
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:18:22 -0400, SC Tom wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:37:29 -0400, SC Tom wrote:


Since I'll be in the market for and email client and newsreader
all-in-one,



Lots of people disagree with me, but I see *no* advantage in having an
e-mail client and a newsreader in the same package. I'd just as soon
have two completely separate programs.


I agree, there really is no advantage. But I'd
just as soon have them both together rather than
separate.

Thanks again for your time.



You're welcome, but I'll add just one more point and then shut up. I
like to choose the e-mail client I like best and the newsreader I like
best. Whether they are one program or two separate programs really
doesn't matter to me, and doesn't influence my choices.

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Old September 28th 09, 08:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Twayne[_2_]
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:37:29 -0400, SC Tom wrote:


Since I'll be in the market for and email client and newsreader
all-in-one,



Lots of people disagree with me, but I see *no* advantage in having an
e-mail client and a newsreader in the same package. I'd just as soon
have two completely separate programs.


But if there is no DISadvantage, what's the issue? When they're
reliable, I prefer things to be integrated; less to fiddle with and
maintain, etc.. In most ingegrations all it amounts to is more than one
dedicated module and maybe calls from one to another in some of the
larger ones. MSOffice is a prime example.

Twayne




I think I give T'Bird and Agent a try. I installed and am
trying out T'Bird right now, and it's pretty darn close to OE. There
are a few options missing that I liked in OE, but that's going to be
the case with any of them. I'll use it for a while, then try Agent
for (maybe) the 30 day period.

Thanks for your suggestions. You are definitely one of the ones here
that I respect your input.



Thanks for the kind words.

K




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Old September 28th 09, 09:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Will[_6_]
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

Lots of people disagree with me, but I see *no* advantage in having an
e-mail client and a newsreader in the same package. I'd just as soon
have two completely separate programs.


But if there is no DISadvantage, what's the issue? When they're reliable, I prefer things to be integrated; less to fiddle with
and maintain, etc.. In most ingegrations all it amounts to is more than one dedicated module and maybe calls from one to another
in some of the larger ones. MSOffice is a prime example.


Its just the law of the jungle that when 2 different applications are combined there are going to be compromises. It always happens.
The upside is perhaps you have a tiny bit less resources being used. But in this day and age that's not even important as neither
of these apps are huge resource hogs.

You can run 2 instances of Windows Live Messenger concurrently (for 2 different accounts) so I wonder if its possible to do the same
with Windows Live Mail? Or maybe use Outlook for email and Windows Live Mail for Usenet?

 




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