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Why do you still use Windows XP?
Give your reasons.
Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? If you use both XP and 7, do you ever plan on ditching XP for good? What will you do when support is dropped to the point where this OS will be problematic with new hardware? Personally I'm waiting for Windows 8 to release a second service pack. XP sucked when it first came out until SP1. Even then, I find the moron-babysitting idiot trend really annoying. It took me forever to figure out how to shut off that piece of **** UAC on Win7 because simply disabling it didn't work, it had to enabled then disabled to be disabled for real. Sigh... |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
From: "Industrial One"
| Give your reasons. | | Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? Just before or when Microsoft puts a dagger in the heart of the OS. | If you use both XP and 7, do you ever plan on ditching XP for good? I have XP on home built desktop and Vista business on Dell Latitude D620. | What will you do when support is dropped to the point where this OS I will build a new system to replace the one presently built around an ASUS P4B533-V MB and... * AGP ATI Rage Pro128 Plus * PCI ATI Wonder VE * PCI Adaptec Ultra 320 SCSI * PCI Initio inic1620 SATA controller * PCI 4 - Port USB 2.0 card * PCI 2 - Port FireWire card * USB Schlumberger Smart Card reader * USB SanDisk 12-in-1 memory card reader * HP PATA DVD+/-RW * Iomega PATA ZIP250 * Pioneer SATA BlueRay DVD+/-RAM I have already dumped an Adaptec 2940W connected to an external SCSI chassis with 2 SCSI hard disks, 1 SCSI 32x CDROM and a Sony 9000 DAT24 tape drive. | | will be problematic with new hardware? Will get new hardware. | | Personally I'm waiting for or | Windows 8 to release a second service pack. | XP sucked when it first came | out until SP1. Even then, I find the | moron-babysitting idiot trend really | annoying. It took me forever to | figure out how to shut off that piece of | **** UAC on Win7 because | simply disabling it didn't work, it had to | enabled then disabled to be | disabled for real. Sigh... I have no plans to go to Windows 8 just because Microsoft releases it. By that time my systems will be Windows 7 Pro. Never jump on the OS band wagon until the first Service Pack is released. That's been true since Win2K. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:00:56 -0800 (PST), Industrial One
wrote: Give your reasons. Partly because I'm too lazy to upgrade systems that currently work perfectly well for their intended purpose, but mostly because the arrival of a new OS on the market isn't a good enough reason to upgrade. I have 3 systems running Windows 7 and 3 systems running XP, and I'll upgrade these last 3 systems when I need to. For these 3, that time hasn't come yet. Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? If you use both XP and 7, do you ever plan on ditching XP for good? Absolutely. Once the time comes to upgrade, why hang onto an old OS? The key, though, is to know when it's time to upgrade. That's different for many of us, as it should be. What will you do when support is dropped to the point where this OS will be problematic with new hardware? I'll upgrade without hesitation. I totally don't understand the thinking behind trying to hang onto an old OS years after support has ended, referring specifically to anything before XP. I know of a few people still struggling along with ME, 98SE, 98, and even 95, amazing and silly as that may sound. Personally I'm waiting for Windows 8 to release a second service pack. XP sucked when it first came out until SP1. Even then, I find the moron-babysitting idiot trend really annoying. It took me forever to figure out how to shut off that piece of **** UAC on Win7 because simply disabling it didn't work, it had to enabled then disabled to be disabled for real. Sigh... It took me way less than a minute to figure out how to disable UAC, and I didn't have to jump through the hoop you mentioned. Still, I think most people should leave it enabled. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
Industrial One wrote:
Give your reasons. Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? If you use both XP and 7, do you ever plan on ditching XP for good? What will you do when support is dropped to the point where this OS will be problematic with new hardware? Personally I'm waiting for Windows 8 to release a second service pack. XP sucked when it first came out until SP1. Even then, I find the moron-babysitting idiot trend really annoying. It took me forever to figure out how to shut off that piece of **** UAC on Win7 because simply disabling it didn't work, it had to enabled then disabled to be disabled for real. Sigh... Went from Win2K to WinXP, when new 3D games installers would no longer install into Win2K. The thing is, Win2K has all the modern features of WinXP, so from a "harvesting hardware" perspective, it was good enough (even if it had a two core limit, by license). I find Windows 7 visually hard to look at. (My eyesight isn't very good.) Windows 8 looks a bit better in that regard. But Windows 8 will have so much baggage, I'm not interested. It's getting perilously close to the "walled garden" concept that is so popular. No "walled gardens" (App Stores) or "clouds" for me thanks. "Windows 8 App Store Gets Gaming Launch Titles" http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817...069TX1K0001121 "Microsoft Confirms Windows 8 App Store" http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/18/mic...s-8-app-store/ Copies locked to PCs, no physical media, DRM to keep you in line. And the same goes to "gating" developers on the other end of the system. I'd stick with Windows 7 if I were you. Unless you like that App Store crap. You can't even get a decent dump out of Windows 8, when some software croaks. And when I saw that, I realized just how much control they planned to have over their new OS and "ecosystem". Why do you need crash info, when you don't "own" anything ??? Paul |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
| Give your reasons.
| Because 98SE won't run on my current hardware. Actually, once I got onto XP I found it notably more efficient than 98 on the same hardware, but it took some getting used to the bloat and "brittleness". I spent about two weeks figuring out the differences and figuring out how to clean up XP. (By brittleness I mean the susceptibility, which increases with each Windows version, to losing the whole system due to relatively small things like a disabled service or a new motherboard. 98 crashed more, but it was very rare that one couldn't get out of a bad boot.) | Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? | That sounds like one of those people who plans when they'll buy a new car. They don't wait until the old one dies. They only wait until their current car no longer impresses the neighbors. I don't "plan" to upgrade. I buy a new one when the old one is no longer usable. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
On 09 Feb 2012, Industrial One wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? I'm already running Windows 7 and Vista on other computers in the house. When my main computer needs replacing, or when I find a software package that requires something later than XP - then I'll consider mothballing XP. Until then my main computer works well and can do everything I want it to, so I'm in no hurry to upgrade it. Personally I'm waiting for Windows 8 to release a second service pack. What are you talking about? Windows 8 is only available as a "developer's preview" which is incomplete and barely workable. It's so raw that nobody should be using it in a production setting. I don't believe it's at the Service Pack stage yet. XP sucked when it first came out until SP1. Even then, I find the moron-babysitting idiot trend really annoying. It took me forever to figure out how to shut off that piece of **** UAC on Win7 because simply disabling it didn't work, it had to enabled then disabled to be disabled for real. Sigh... I've turned UAC off and on a number of times. I never had to "enable then disable it." I leave it on the family workstations now and I barely notice it. I might turn it off my own computer that I worked at day to day. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
Mayayana wrote:
Give your reasons. Because 98SE won't run on my current hardware. Actually, once I got onto XP I found it notably more efficient than 98 on the same hardware, but it took some getting used to the bloat and "brittleness". I spent about two weeks figuring out the differences and figuring out how to clean up XP. (By brittleness I mean the susceptibility, which increases with each Windows version, to losing the whole system due to relatively small things like a disabled service or a new motherboard. 98 crashed more, but it was very rare that one couldn't get out of a bad boot.) Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? That sounds like one of those people who plans when they'll buy a new car. They don't wait until the old one dies. They only wait until their current car no longer impresses the neighbors. Indeed. And I'm waiting until my old 1988' Nissan dies. I don't "plan" to upgrade. I buy a new one when the old one is no longer usable. Hear!! Hear!! If that day ever comes. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
Per Industrial One:
Give your reasons. Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? If you use both XP and 7, do you ever plan on ditching XP for good? XP works for me, I have close to a dozen licenses via MSDN, and every time MS brings out a new Windows they move the furniture around. A few man hours just for me plus the hassle of switching back-and-forth on different PCs is no big deal, I guess... but for a corporation with 20,000 employees who are dropping the same amount of time just because MS moved the furniture around - that seems to me like a beeeeeg deal. If I were MS, I'd have a committee that had to listen to the reason for every change in the UI on a new Windows - and either approve or deny it. I've got 7 on a couple of PCs where it was part of the PC purchase. Can't say I dislike it... but they *have* moved furniture around - seemingly for no reason at all - and I can't see that it does anything for me that XP does not, except for being a little more network-friendly in a new PC being able to acquire my NAS box without having it's WorkGroup set to the same as my home workgroup. I'll dump XP when I have to - and no sooner. -- Pete Cresswell |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:00:56 -0800, Industrial One wrote:
Give your reasons. If it ain't broke . . . Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? No. I don't "plan" such things. When XP fails to meet my needs (or just irreparably breaks), then I'll decide. However, the way Windows has been evolving (or de-evolving) I may just abandon it all together. Mostly, have anyway like with DOS and AmigaOS. If you use both XP and 7, do you ever plan on ditching XP for good? Never used Vista, an abominable, bloated beast; or W7, its corpulent ******* child. What will you do when support is dropped to the point where this OS will be problematic with new hardware? What else? Keep running it on the OLD hardware just like I'm doing with W2k on an 11 year old Thinkpad 240X. Stef |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
In message
, Industrial One writes: Give your reasons. Do you plan to upgrade ever? If so, when and why? At present, I have no plans to change (I wouldn't use the word "upgrade"); however, I'm not wedded to not doing so. If you use both XP and 7, do you ever plan on ditching XP for good? I can't honestly answer that as I _don't_ have 7; however I'm in the slightly unusual position of having had a 7 machine for 4 to 6 weeks (we were buying a new PC for a non-computer-minded person, and we decided [since she was/is unlikely to change again for many years] that a 7 machine was probably more future-proof. I was to "set it up" for her). I found 7 not at all as hard to get on with as I expected; I found the search-box-in-lots-of-places actually quite useful, in contrast to what lots of people have found: possibly I found that the search function actually worked better than I expected. I will agree that they seem to have "moved the furniture around", as someone else in this thread has put it, for the usual little good reason. I also find the eye candy spurious, though not actually irritating. (I have certainly noticed, from Windows 3.x on, that as monitors have got higher resolution, icons etc. have got bigger and more complex, so that the number on the average screen remains about the same! And colour schemes have got more and more pastel - initially that's because they could, originally there being only 16 colours, but I genuinely find the default text colours in lots of Office 2010 - which we've just moved to at work - harder to read, as they seem to be a mid-grey. [I know I'm speaking of Office 2010, but it shares much of the philosophy of Windows 7, IMO.]) What will you do when support is dropped to the point where this OS will be problematic with new hardware? Probably switch. That's what moved me from '9x to XP - though I went out of my way to find an XP machine rather than, as was becoming the norm when I bought this machine (netbook), Vista. (I think that's recognised as wise in hindsight!) It was getting just too much hard work to make new kit work with '9x (or to find kit that would). I'm not a must-have-every-latest-gadget person, which is possibly why I was able to stay with '9x for as long as I did. Similarly, I don't need the latest in software tricks - particularly games, though unlike many old-OSers, I don't have antagonism for those who _do_ enjoy games. I must admit that XP seems a lot more stable (once I'd stopped using the latest video driver that is buggy), though as another has said, 98 crashes were rarely catastrophic. Personally I'm waiting for Windows 8 to release a second service pack. XP sucked when it first came out until SP1. Even then, I find the Certainly, each version - 3, 95, (98 to a lesser extent,) XP - have always been better after a service pack or three. Actually my own philosophy - though I'm not actually as organised as this implies - is that the OS to have _for me_ is the one Microsoft are trying to kill off; it's been around a long time, and there is a huge body of people who know how to beat it into submission. XP is more or less in that position; '98 was, maybe four or five years ago. moron-babysitting idiot trend really annoying. It took me forever to figure out how to shut off that piece of **** UAC on Win7 because simply disabling it didn't work, it had to enabled then disabled to be disabled for real. Sigh... For us, yes. But for the ever-increasing numbers of new computer users (at least I _think_ it's still increasing), such protection from self is perhaps desirable - and it's for them that new OSs are mostly being written. (Plus, as well, there's the move towards walled gardens like the app. store, and the cloud, and similar; I dislike these trends as much as anyone here, but there are sound commercial incentives driving them. And many people new to computing, especially those who think they have no use or want for a computer, it's what they want: I wonder, are there more Apple users - including of those computers that pretend to be telephones - than Linux users?) Remember, half the population is of below-average intelligence ... There, that's probably stirred things up a lot, especially with the cross-post ... (-: -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Rule 46, Oxford Union Society, London: Any member introducing a dog into the Society's premises shall be liable to a fine of one pound. Any animal leading a blind person shall be deemed to be a cat. |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
: Remember, half the population is of below-average intelligence ... There, that's probably stirred things up a lot, especially with the cross-post ... (-: I'll just go with that bit... more than half, if it's a bell curve. If it's a sharp thornlike peak, much more than half. The cloud/walled garden thing is what bothers me. It was never really so much what OS we choose, but why we choose it. Choose one to live by, is my advice. Make it home. Otherwise it will always someone else's home. Anyone who is unaware of the perils of the walled garden should watch an X-File called 'Arcadia'. Never mind the tulpa bit, those CC&R's are REALLY scary. That's where 'trusted computing' will lead. We have to figure this out for ourselves. Even stupid people are expected to look and cross the road in a manner that protects their own safety. If this were not so, then everyone else, smart and stupid alike, would be diving into traffic like lemmings off a cliff, trying to save those who won't save themselves. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:13:34 -0600, Lostgallifreyan
wrote: The cloud/walled garden thing is what bothers me. It was never really so much what OS we choose, but why we choose it. Choose one to live by, is my advice. Make it home. Otherwise it will always someone else's home. I think you're in the tiny minority, though. Most people use applications, not an OS, so endless OS customizing isn't something most people are interested in. Does it do what they need? If so, then they use it and move on. Most people I deal with couldn't care less which version of Windows is running, as long as they can do what they want to do, such as get their email and Facebook updates. IMHO, of course, based on what I see. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
Char Jackson wrote in
: I think you're in the tiny minority, though. Most people use applications, not an OS, so endless OS customizing isn't something most people are interested in. Does it do what they need? That specifically is true, but think through the implications. People expect what they pay for to last, especially these days that Europe looks like splitting up or dragging the OS down with it. People have been sold a disposable way of life and come to realise how extreme the cost is. If an OS fails to support their applications they won't use it. That cuts both ways! It's not just about programs that won't run on W98 anymore, if people are forced into expenses they can't afford, they will keep their programs, and reject any new OS that fails to run them. So if people dig their heels in a bit, they will not only protect themselves, but the rest or us too. If people believe promises more than the reality in front of them when it comes to technical stuff, we're in trouble. We've already sleepwalked into a global financial nightmare. How many more nightmares must we walk into before we wake up? |
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Lostgallifreyan wrote in
: dragging the OS US... I guess that particular typo comes with the territory. |
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Why do you still use Windows XP?
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Char Jackson wrote in : I think you're in the tiny minority, though. Most people use applications, not an OS, so endless OS customizing isn't something most people are interested in. Does it do what they need? That specifically is true, but think through the implications. People expect what they pay for to last, especially these days that Europe looks like splitting up or dragging the OS down with it. People have been sold a disposable way of life and come to realise how extreme the cost is. If an OS fails to support their applications they won't use it. That cuts both ways! It's not just about programs that won't run on W98 anymore, if people are forced into expenses they can't afford, they will keep their programs, and reject any new OS that fails to run them. So if people dig their heels in a bit, they will not only protect themselves, but the rest or us too. If people believe promises more than the reality in front of them when it comes to technical stuff, we're in trouble. We've already sleepwalked into a global financial nightmare. How many more nightmares must we walk into before we wake up? Now,now, was that a rhetorical question??? (I, for one, already know the answer, based on my observations of mankind over time) |
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