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  #1  
Old July 15th 04, 06:44 PM
V Green
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Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.




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  #2  
Old July 15th 04, 06:45 PM
Jerry
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Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at least a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.

"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.






  #3  
Old July 16th 04, 05:46 PM
V Green
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Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at least

a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.








  #4  
Old July 16th 04, 05:46 PM
Jerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

I used the DVI cable that came with the monitor and it's running at 1280 x
1024.

I downloaded the Samsung drivers and used them after XP was installed
successfully. Device Manger/Monitor lists the driver as a Samsung version
1.0

Tonight I swapped out the Radeon 9600 Pro for a Radeon 9800 Pro w/256Mb of
RAM and XP started just fine but with generic VGA drivers. Did a driver
update from Device Manager and everything is as it should be.

"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at

least
a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a

Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.










  #5  
Old July 16th 04, 06:40 PM
V Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at least

a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.








  #6  
Old July 16th 04, 06:40 PM
Jerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

I used the DVI cable that came with the monitor and it's running at 1280 x
1024.

I downloaded the Samsung drivers and used them after XP was installed
successfully. Device Manger/Monitor lists the driver as a Samsung version
1.0

Tonight I swapped out the Radeon 9600 Pro for a Radeon 9800 Pro w/256Mb of
RAM and XP started just fine but with generic VGA drivers. Did a driver
update from Device Manager and everything is as it should be.

"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at

least
a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a

Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.










  #7  
Old July 16th 04, 07:07 PM
V Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at least

a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.








  #8  
Old July 16th 04, 07:09 PM
Jerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

I used the DVI cable that came with the monitor and it's running at 1280 x
1024.

I downloaded the Samsung drivers and used them after XP was installed
successfully. Device Manger/Monitor lists the driver as a Samsung version
1.0

Tonight I swapped out the Radeon 9600 Pro for a Radeon 9800 Pro w/256Mb of
RAM and XP started just fine but with generic VGA drivers. Did a driver
update from Device Manager and everything is as it should be.

"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at

least
a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a

Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.










  #9  
Old July 17th 04, 03:42 AM
V Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I used the DVI cable that came with the monitor and it's running at 1280 x
1024.

I downloaded the Samsung drivers and used them after XP was installed
successfully. Device Manger/Monitor lists the driver as a Samsung version
1.0

Tonight I swapped out the Radeon 9600 Pro for a Radeon 9800 Pro w/256Mb of
RAM and XP started just fine but with generic VGA drivers. Did a driver
update from Device Manager and everything is as it should be.


I have a 9600 SE. Mayber it's too castrated to do DVI properly...
9800 is a little outta my price range, but if it's the only way to get
this to work....


"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at

least
a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a

Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.












  #10  
Old July 17th 04, 07:48 AM
Jerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

Before the 9800 Pro I was using a 9600 Pro w/128Mb of memory just fine.

ATI is selling the 9800Pro w/256Mb of memory on their web site for $299 with
free shipping.

"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I used the DVI cable that came with the monitor and it's running at 1280

x
1024.

I downloaded the Samsung drivers and used them after XP was installed
successfully. Device Manger/Monitor lists the driver as a Samsung

version
1.0

Tonight I swapped out the Radeon 9600 Pro for a Radeon 9800 Pro w/256Mb

of
RAM and XP started just fine but with generic VGA drivers. Did a driver
update from Device Manager and everything is as it should be.


I have a 9600 SE. Mayber it's too castrated to do DVI properly...
9800 is a little outta my price range, but if it's the only way to get
this to work....


"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at

least
a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst
drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a

Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.

Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.














  #11  
Old July 18th 04, 11:45 PM
V Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

Jerry, if you're still following this-

I bought a 9800 Pro /128 to try-it acts exactly the same,
so it's likely NOT the video card. I also don't think
it's the monitor per se, as I can get it up to 1024x768
with the built-in VGA driver in XP.

This leaves a couple of things-some versions of the 191T
(like mine) misidentify themselves as a Samsung 530TFT
due to a EDID bug. I suspect the Cat drivers are reading
this info (1024x768) and overriding everything I'm trying to do to get
the DVI port up to 1280 x 1024.

Or, for some reason, I have a bad DVI cable, but I find
this to be unlikely, as it works up to 1024x768@60. Only thing I
can think of here is that the Samsung supplied cable is single-link,
and that a dual-link cable, although theoretically NOT necessary
(191T bandwidth 135 Mhz per spec sheet), it may make a
difference.

If you don't mind, I have a few registry entries I'd like to compare
with you. If interested, we can take this off the NG - email me
at



(remove the obvious)

or, if you think others may benefit, we can leave it here.

Thanks.
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
Before the 9800 Pro I was using a 9600 Pro w/128Mb of memory just fine.

ATI is selling the 9800Pro w/256Mb of memory on their web site for $299

with
free shipping.

"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I used the DVI cable that came with the monitor and it's running at

1280
x
1024.

I downloaded the Samsung drivers and used them after XP was installed
successfully. Device Manger/Monitor lists the driver as a Samsung

version
1.0

Tonight I swapped out the Radeon 9600 Pro for a Radeon 9800 Pro

w/256Mb
of
RAM and XP started just fine but with generic VGA drivers. Did a

driver
update from Device Manager and everything is as it should be.


I have a 9600 SE. Mayber it's too castrated to do DVI properly...
9800 is a little outta my price range, but if it's the only way to get
this to work....


"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for

at
least
a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest

Catalyst
drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a
Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.

Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.
















  #12  
Old July 22nd 04, 06:23 PM
V Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at least

a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.








  #13  
Old July 22nd 04, 06:26 PM
Jerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...

I used the DVI cable that came with the monitor and it's running at 1280 x
1024.

I downloaded the Samsung drivers and used them after XP was installed
successfully. Device Manger/Monitor lists the driver as a Samsung version
1.0

Tonight I swapped out the Radeon 9600 Pro for a Radeon 9800 Pro w/256Mb of
RAM and XP started just fine but with generic VGA drivers. Did a driver
update from Device Manager and everything is as it should be.

"V Green" wrote in message
...

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at

least
a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a

Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.










  #14  
Old July 24th 04, 06:48 AM
V Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at least

a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.








  #15  
Old July 24th 04, 06:48 AM
V Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default So, who has gotten a 191T to work in DVI...


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I've been using my 191T on a Radeon 9600 Pro's DVI connector for at least

a
year and have not had any problems. I'm running the latest Catalyst

drivers,
version 4.7

I also use it's analog connector to view another system that has a Radeon
9000 in it and that's been ok too.


Thanks for responding Jerry.

Did you install Samsung's monitor "driver" or did you
just let XP call it a "Plug n Play Monitor"?

Samsung tech support claims that's all I need to do...

Did you use the DVI cable that came with it or something else?



"V Green" wrote in message
...
under XP?

What video card did you use?
ATI 9600 SE currently in use here.

I can't for the life of me get this to work,
it's one of the most hair-pulling hardware issues
I've ever run across.

POST and startup screens on DVI OK, goes blank
and 191 into power save at logon screen.

If I uninstall the ATI driver, and just use the
castrated "VGA Compatible", I can get 1024x768
on DVI but no higher. Using ATI drivers, only 640x480x16
in "Enable VGA mode" only.

I'm aware of the 191T having bogus EDID and ID'ing
itself as a 531T on the DVI connector. Surely there
must be a way around this issue.

Analog VGA OK at all resolutions.








 




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