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  #31  
Old July 19th 04, 08:27 PM
paula
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Well a technician said that adding a newsgroup does (OE) dump the
deleted items folder..and does so on a regular basis as it loads mail

"Gordon" wrote:

"paula" wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!


Ummm - the Deleted Items folder is for ITEMS THAT ARE DELETED! What
numbskull "stores" emails in the Deleted Items folder?

Sheeesh!

And joining a newsgroup should have NO effect on any mail folders AT ALL so
I don't quite know what you did.



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  #32  
Old July 19th 04, 08:30 PM
Tom Pepper Willett
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

As you have been told over and over and over, and you refuse to listen,
installing a newsgroup does *not dump the deleted items folder.

Just because a so-called "tech" told you that doesn't make it so.

There are many many people in this newsgroup who have been dealing with OE
and MS products for years. They're the one's you need to be listening to.
Otherwise, don't waste your time or ours by asking if you can't accept the
answer.

Tom
"paula" wrote in message
...
| Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items folder!
Jon
| good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are Heroic! paula
|
| "Jon" wrote:
|
| Couple of things to try
|
| (1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may
| have more than one in your list of folders.
|
| (2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to
the
| relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try
| accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to
| retrieve
|
| Jon
|
|
| wrote in message
| ...
| I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
| (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
| everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
| was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
| one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
| anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
| thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!
|
|
|


  #33  
Old July 19th 04, 08:32 PM
Gordon
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

"paula" wrote in message
...
Well a technician said that adding a newsgroup does (OE) dump the
deleted items folder..and does so on a regular basis as it loads mail


See my other reply - it's baloney. You have to MANUALLY set OE to empty the
deleted items folder on exit, it does NOT do it by default, and that's the
only "automated" function the deleted items has.


  #34  
Old July 19th 04, 08:32 PM
Jone Doe
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail


"paula" wrote in message
...
Well a technician said that adding a newsgroup does (OE) dump the
deleted items folder..and does so on a regular basis as it loads mail

I'd find a new tech who knows what he is talking about.


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  #35  
Old July 19th 04, 10:59 PM
Kath Adams
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

paula wrote:
Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items
folder! Jon good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are
Heroic! paula

"Jon" wrote:

Couple of things to try

(1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You
may have more than one in your list of folders.

(2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on
to the relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc)
then try accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may
be able to retrieve

Jon


wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express
Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box
and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder
where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean
Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way
to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points
unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in
trouble!


OK Paula, as everyone else has already said, OE does *not* dump anything
just by subscribing to a newsgroup.

Hopefully, all may not be lost.
Follow these instructions carefully :-

Open OE, go to toolsoptionsmaintenancestore folder and note the
location that OE is storing the folders.
Close OE.
In Control Panelfolder optionsview, make sure there is a tick in "Show
hidden files and folders".
In Windows Explorer, nagivate to the place you noted down in step one.
MOVE deleted items.dbx to a safe place on your PC, ideally the desktop.

(OE will create a new deleted items folder when you next re-start it.
But don't worry about this for the moment.)

Download ($5) and install the following program. Use it on the deleted
items folder that you moved to see if you can get your messages back.
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

(No guarantees, depending on your OE settings).

Some useful maintenance tips. Do NOT store mail that you want to keep in
any of the default mail folders of OE. Move them to folders created by
you under Local Folders. Disable "compact in the background" and do this
manually, frequently, whilst offline.
Also, make regular backups of all your mail folders for just such an
eventuality.
Link to a program that will do this automatically and free for you.
http://www.oehelp.com/oebackup/default.aspx

--
Kath Adams
MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE)

  #36  
Old July 19th 04, 11:14 PM
NoNoBadDog!
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Paula;

1. Your tech is full of it. Fire him and spend your money with a tech who
knows what he is talking about.

2. I have used OE and Outlook for years. Adding newsgroups does NOT delete
anything. let me repeat that...adding newsgroups does NOT delete anything.

3. If you lost your husbands emails, it is because YOU did something to
delete them. Besides, only an idiot would store his files in the deleted
items folder.

4. Perhaps you are not quite ready to be using OE and outlook. I would
sugest a visit to your local bookstore or library. There are many books out
there written in simple language on how to use your computer and apps like
OE and Outlook. I suggest you do some reading.

Bobby

"paula" wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!



  #37  
Old July 19th 04, 11:14 PM
NoNoBadDog!
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Paula;

As many have told you...adding a newsgroup does NOT delete anything and
does NOT empty the trash. When OE does housecleaning, it compresses your
folders and moves old files to the deleted items folder, but does NOT delete
the files from that folder. If your husband was silly enough to store his
emails in the Deleted Items folder, and YOU emptied that folder, then the
files are gone. A normal person would not store his emails in the deleted
items folder.

Bobby

"paula" wrote in message
...
OK I made a new folder for storing mail. And no I didn't delete
anything..what to learn is that OE dumps the "deleted items folder"
as part of its add newsgroup program..it does take out the trash an MS
tech told me.
Thank you for helping..and I got some fantastic news about going
to windows\application data\Identities\Outlook Express folder and some
other
ideas as well under the responses...

"Jone Doe" wrote:


"paula" wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!


Yes indeed you are in trouble.

Setting up a newsgroup merely adds a newsgroup to the list. It does not
do
a clean install, or any kind of install. It merely adds a newsgroup.
Not
one mentioned it for just that reason, it doesn't happen. Therefore, you
must have done something, like perhaps the click the very handy button to
delete mail out of the deleted mail folder.

If you want to store email, make a new folder with a name like, perhaps
"Stored mail" to store it in. Why did you think they called it "Deleted
items.dbx"?


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.722 / Virus Database: 478 - Release Date: 7/18/2004





  #38  
Old July 19th 04, 11:14 PM
NoNoBadDog!
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

For the 84th time for the benefit of all who are reading this
thread...adding a group or account to OE DOES NOT empty the trash. Paula
desperately wnats to blame MS on this, but it simply does not happen. To
those of you who may be new and reading this thread, please be aware that
what Paula states is not true.

Bobby

"paula" wrote in message
...
Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items folder!
Jon
good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are Heroic! paula

"Jon" wrote:

Couple of things to try

(1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may
have more than one in your list of folders.

(2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to the
relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try
accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to
retrieve

Jon


wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!






  #39  
Old July 19th 04, 11:39 PM
paula
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Everybody! The box by "Empty items from the deleted items folder on exit"
is not checked, was not checked....ever.......... Iolo
was able to open the file "Identities under Application Data, however, even though IOLO found Folders dbx and inbox dbx....when I went to this identities folder it
said zero files, 0 folders. Maybe security issue? ANybody know how to open this
"identities" folder and see the Outlook Express stuff?How is it Iolo sees stuff in it and I can't?

"paula" wrote:

I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!

  #40  
Old July 20th 04, 12:09 AM
Kath Adams
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

paula wrote:
Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items
folder! Jon good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are
Heroic! paula

"Jon" wrote:

Couple of things to try

(1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You
may have more than one in your list of folders.

(2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on
to the relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc)
then try accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may
be able to retrieve

Jon


wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express
Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box
and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder
where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean
Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way
to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points
unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in
trouble!


OK Paula, as everyone else has already said, OE does *not* dump anything
just by subscribing to a newsgroup.

Hopefully, all may not be lost.
Follow these instructions carefully :-

Open OE, go to toolsoptionsmaintenancestore folder and note the
location that OE is storing the folders.
Close OE.
In Control Panelfolder optionsview, make sure there is a tick in "Show
hidden files and folders".
In Windows Explorer, nagivate to the place you noted down in step one.
MOVE deleted items.dbx to a safe place on your PC, ideally the desktop.

(OE will create a new deleted items folder when you next re-start it.
But don't worry about this for the moment.)

Download ($5) and install the following program. Use it on the deleted
items folder that you moved to see if you can get your messages back.
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

(No guarantees, depending on your OE settings).

Some useful maintenance tips. Do NOT store mail that you want to keep in
any of the default mail folders of OE. Move them to folders created by
you under Local Folders. Disable "compact in the background" and do this
manually, frequently, whilst offline.
Also, make regular backups of all your mail folders for just such an
eventuality.
Link to a program that will do this automatically and free for you.
http://www.oehelp.com/oebackup/default.aspx

--
Kath Adams
MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE)

  #41  
Old July 20th 04, 12:23 AM
NoNoBadDog!
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Paula;

1. Your tech is full of it. Fire him and spend your money with a tech who
knows what he is talking about.

2. I have used OE and Outlook for years. Adding newsgroups does NOT delete
anything. let me repeat that...adding newsgroups does NOT delete anything.

3. If you lost your husbands emails, it is because YOU did something to
delete them. Besides, only an idiot would store his files in the deleted
items folder.

4. Perhaps you are not quite ready to be using OE and outlook. I would
sugest a visit to your local bookstore or library. There are many books out
there written in simple language on how to use your computer and apps like
OE and Outlook. I suggest you do some reading.

Bobby

"paula" wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!



  #42  
Old July 20th 04, 12:23 AM
NoNoBadDog!
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Paula;

As many have told you...adding a newsgroup does NOT delete anything and
does NOT empty the trash. When OE does housecleaning, it compresses your
folders and moves old files to the deleted items folder, but does NOT delete
the files from that folder. If your husband was silly enough to store his
emails in the Deleted Items folder, and YOU emptied that folder, then the
files are gone. A normal person would not store his emails in the deleted
items folder.

Bobby

"paula" wrote in message
...
OK I made a new folder for storing mail. And no I didn't delete
anything..what to learn is that OE dumps the "deleted items folder"
as part of its add newsgroup program..it does take out the trash an MS
tech told me.
Thank you for helping..and I got some fantastic news about going
to windows\application data\Identities\Outlook Express folder and some
other
ideas as well under the responses...

"Jone Doe" wrote:


"paula" wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!


Yes indeed you are in trouble.

Setting up a newsgroup merely adds a newsgroup to the list. It does not
do
a clean install, or any kind of install. It merely adds a newsgroup.
Not
one mentioned it for just that reason, it doesn't happen. Therefore, you
must have done something, like perhaps the click the very handy button to
delete mail out of the deleted mail folder.

If you want to store email, make a new folder with a name like, perhaps
"Stored mail" to store it in. Why did you think they called it "Deleted
items.dbx"?


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.722 / Virus Database: 478 - Release Date: 7/18/2004





  #43  
Old July 20th 04, 12:24 AM
NoNoBadDog!
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

For the 84th time for the benefit of all who are reading this
thread...adding a group or account to OE DOES NOT empty the trash. Paula
desperately wnats to blame MS on this, but it simply does not happen. To
those of you who may be new and reading this thread, please be aware that
what Paula states is not true.

Bobby

"paula" wrote in message
...
Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items folder!
Jon
good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are Heroic! paula

"Jon" wrote:

Couple of things to try

(1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may
have more than one in your list of folders.

(2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to the
relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try
accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to
retrieve

Jon


wrote in message
...
I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!






  #44  
Old July 20th 04, 12:44 AM
paula
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Everybody! The box by "Empty items from the deleted items folder on exit"
is not checked, was not checked....ever.......... Iolo
was able to open the file "Identities under Application Data, however, even though IOLO found Folders dbx and inbox dbx....when I went to this identities folder it
said zero files, 0 folders. Maybe security issue? ANybody know how to open this
"identities" folder and see the Outlook Express stuff?How is it Iolo sees stuff in it and I can't?

"paula" wrote:

I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!

  #45  
Old July 20th 04, 01:39 AM
Jone Doe
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Default Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail

Xref: newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1194120

I'd suggest you leave it alone before you delete some other file and then
want to argue that it's MS fault because now it won't boot up after you
dusted something off.

Your 'tech' is wrong. I don't understand why you don't just LET IT GO and
move on.

"paula" wrote in message
...
Everybody! The box by "Empty items from the deleted items folder on exit"
is not checked, was not checked....ever.......... Iolo
was able to open the file "Identities under Application Data, however,

even though IOLO found Folders dbx and inbox dbx....when I went to this
identities folder it
said zero files, 0 folders. Maybe security issue? ANybody know how to

open this
"identities" folder and see the Outlook Express stuff?How is it Iolo sees

stuff in it and I can't?

"paula" wrote:

I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup
(add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now
everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he
was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no
one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve
anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful.
thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble!



---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.723 / Virus Database: 479 - Release Date: 7/19/2004


 




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