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  #16  
Old July 22nd 04, 02:40 AM
Alias
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"Bruce Chambers" wrote
Greetings --

Let's put the responsibility where it lies, shall we? We
bonafide, honest customers are not inconvenienced by WPA. We're
inconvenienced by the acts of the software pirates who have made WPA
and other copy protection schemes necessary.


Are you serious? Regardless of the reason, WPA is an inconvenience for
bonafide users and isn't one for users of cracked versions.

Just as we
inconvenienced by having to lock our homes and cars to keep common
thieves out -- it's not the manufacturer of the locks and automobiles
who are the root cause of the inconvenience, it's the dishonesty of
others. Just as we resent having to pay taxes to keep convicted
criminals behind bars.


Bruce Chambers


Gosh, so when is Linux coming up with a WPA?

LOL!

Alias
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"Alias" wrote in message
...


Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per

chance? WPA
does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience

bonafide
customers.

Alias
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...


Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage
with them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two

people
eat it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the

peels.
After all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only

gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and

probably
don't have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to

piracy"
when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias










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  #17  
Old July 22nd 04, 03:32 AM
Miss Perspicacia Tick
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Default Why Only On One PC?

Jone Doe wrote:
gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use
one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an
operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se,
but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the
terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who
invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses
binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it,
and sell it.


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Al Gore?! You mean Al Gore as in the ex-vice president?! I don't *THINK* so!
The internet started life in 1969 as ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects
Agency NETwork) which went live in October of that year (my US history is a
little hazy, but I believe Richard Nixon was president at the time. Al Gore
would have been 21 at the time. In '69 he was at Harvard studying politics).

The WWW, OTOH, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a Brit working at CERN (the
European Particle Physics lab in Geneva) in 1980. He invented HTTP and HTML
in 1990. For more info, see http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/lee.html.



  #18  
Old July 22nd 04, 03:38 AM
Unknown
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Default Why Only On One PC?

You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license
and use it on several cars?
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one

of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of

the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.


Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias



  #19  
Old July 22nd 04, 03:44 AM
Alias
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Default Why Only On One PC?


"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile

license
and use it on several cars?


A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses
are not products.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use

one
of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented

or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use

of
the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet

after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and

ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.


Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product,

isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless

it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy

of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental*

support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias





  #20  
Old July 22nd 04, 03:44 AM
Bruce Chambers
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Default Why Only On One PC?

Greetings --

Let's put the responsibility where it lies, shall we? We
bonafide, honest customers are not inconvenienced by WPA. We're
inconvenienced by the acts of the software pirates who have made WPA
and other copy protection schemes necessary. Just as we
inconvenienced by having to lock our homes and cars to keep common
thieves out -- it's not the manufacturer of the locks and automobiles
who are the root cause of the inconvenience, it's the dishonesty of
others. Just as we resent having to pay taxes to keep convicted
criminals behind bars.


Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...


Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per

chance? WPA
does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience

bonafide
customers.

Alias
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...


Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage

with them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two

people
eat it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the

peels.
After all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.

Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only

gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and

probably
don't have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to

piracy"
when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias








  #21  
Old July 22nd 04, 03:56 AM
Bruce Chambers
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Default Why Only On One PC?

Greetings --

You still haven't demonstrated how WPA causes any inconvenience to
bonafide users. WPA is almost entirely automatic and invisible to the
typical user. How is this inconvenient? WPA is, in fact, a lot more
"convenient" than a lot of other copy protection methods used by other
software manufacturers.

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Crusty "Old B@stard"" wrote in

message
...
Yes! They make it inconvenient to put it on your wife's computer

when you
have already put it on your computer.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


Upgrading your computer is an inconvenience too but only for

bonafide users.
People who use cracked versions are not inconvenienced by the fact

that MS
dictates that XP can only be installed on one computer.

Terrific PR, this one.

Alias


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Greetings --

This bonafide user isn't the least bit upset that Microsoft

has
finally started to take steps (baby steps, with WPA, granted)

to put a
stop to software piracy. I also know better than trying to

compare
the license usage of copyrighted intellectual property with a

banana.

Bruce Chambers

Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per

chance?
WPA
does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience

bonafide
customers.

Alias
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count

on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...


Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of

usage
with them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two

people
eat it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the

peels.
After all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only

gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and

probably
don't have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to

piracy"
when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias












  #22  
Old July 22nd 04, 03:59 AM
Unknown
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

Like I said semantics. Why don't you ask a lawyer?
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile

license
and use it on several cars?


A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses
are not products.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use

one
of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented

or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use

of
the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet

after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and

ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.

Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product,

isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless

it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy

of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental*

support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias






  #23  
Old July 22nd 04, 03:59 AM
Alias
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?


"Bruce Chambers" wrote
Greetings --

Let's put the responsibility where it lies, shall we? We
bonafide, honest customers are not inconvenienced by WPA. We're
inconvenienced by the acts of the software pirates who have made WPA
and other copy protection schemes necessary.


Are you serious? Regardless of the reason, WPA is an inconvenience for
bonafide users and isn't one for users of cracked versions.

Just as we
inconvenienced by having to lock our homes and cars to keep common
thieves out -- it's not the manufacturer of the locks and automobiles
who are the root cause of the inconvenience, it's the dishonesty of
others. Just as we resent having to pay taxes to keep convicted
criminals behind bars.


Bruce Chambers


Gosh, so when is Linux coming up with a WPA?

LOL!

Alias
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...


Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per

chance? WPA
does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience

bonafide
customers.

Alias
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...


Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage
with them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two

people
eat it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the

peels.
After all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only

gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and

probably
don't have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to

piracy"
when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias










  #24  
Old July 22nd 04, 07:45 AM
Jone Doe
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004


  #25  
Old July 22nd 04, 07:50 AM
Alias
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Default Why Only On One PC?


"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one

of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of

the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.


Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias


  #26  
Old July 22nd 04, 08:18 AM
Miss Perspicacia Tick
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Jone Doe wrote:
gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use
one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an
operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se,
but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the
terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who
invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses
binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it,
and sell it.


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004


Al Gore?! You mean Al Gore as in the ex-vice president?! I don't *THINK* so!
The internet started life in 1969 as ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects
Agency NETwork) which went live in October of that year (my US history is a
little hazy, but I believe Richard Nixon was president at the time. Al Gore
would have been 21 at the time. In '69 he was at Harvard studying politics).

The WWW, OTOH, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a Brit working at CERN (the
European Particle Physics lab in Geneva) in 1980. He invented HTTP and HTML
in 1990. For more info, see http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/lee.html.



  #27  
Old July 22nd 04, 08:20 AM
Unknown
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Default Why Only On One PC?

You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license
and use it on several cars?
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one

of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of

the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.


Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias



  #28  
Old July 22nd 04, 08:20 AM
Alias
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?


"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile

license
and use it on several cars?


A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses
are not products.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use

one
of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented

or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use

of
the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet

after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and

ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.


Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product,

isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless

it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy

of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental*

support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias





  #29  
Old July 22nd 04, 08:21 AM
Unknown
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

Like I said semantics. Why don't you ask a lawyer?
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile

license
and use it on several cars?


A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses
are not products.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use

one
of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented

or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use

of
the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet

after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and

ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.

Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product,

isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless

it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy

of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental*

support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias






  #30  
Old July 22nd 04, 08:21 AM
Alias
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?


"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
Like I said semantics. Why don't you ask a lawyer?


You don't want to know what my lawyer has to say about this. It's *not*
semantics. Words have definitions, both in a connotative and dennotative
sense.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile

license
and use it on several cars?


A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile

licenses
are not products.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to

use
one
of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an

operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but

rented
or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of

use
of
the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet

after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and

ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.

Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a

product,
isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to

unless
it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software

a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate

copy
of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental*

support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias








 




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