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Why Only On One PC?
"Bruce Chambers" wrote Greetings -- Let's put the responsibility where it lies, shall we? We bonafide, honest customers are not inconvenienced by WPA. We're inconvenienced by the acts of the software pirates who have made WPA and other copy protection schemes necessary. Are you serious? Regardless of the reason, WPA is an inconvenience for bonafide users and isn't one for users of cracked versions. Just as we inconvenienced by having to lock our homes and cars to keep common thieves out -- it's not the manufacturer of the locks and automobiles who are the root cause of the inconvenience, it's the dishonesty of others. Just as we resent having to pay taxes to keep convicted criminals behind bars. Bruce Chambers Gosh, so when is Linux coming up with a WPA? LOL! Alias -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per chance? WPA does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience bonafide customers. Alias -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with them. For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat it, no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After all you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*. Unfortunately, the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets bonafide customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't have much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when their CEO is the richest man in the world. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
Jone Doe wrote:
gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 Al Gore?! You mean Al Gore as in the ex-vice president?! I don't *THINK* so! The internet started life in 1969 as ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects Agency NETwork) which went live in October of that year (my US history is a little hazy, but I believe Richard Nixon was president at the time. Al Gore would have been 21 at the time. In '69 he was at Harvard studying politics). The WWW, OTOH, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a Brit working at CERN (the European Particle Physics lab in Geneva) in 1980. He invented HTTP and HTML in 1990. For more info, see http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/lee.html. |
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Why Only On One PC?
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license
and use it on several cars? "Alias" wrote in message ... "Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
"Unknown" wrote in message gy.com... You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license and use it on several cars? A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses are not products. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... "Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
Greetings --
Let's put the responsibility where it lies, shall we? We bonafide, honest customers are not inconvenienced by WPA. We're inconvenienced by the acts of the software pirates who have made WPA and other copy protection schemes necessary. Just as we inconvenienced by having to lock our homes and cars to keep common thieves out -- it's not the manufacturer of the locks and automobiles who are the root cause of the inconvenience, it's the dishonesty of others. Just as we resent having to pay taxes to keep convicted criminals behind bars. Bruce Chambers -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per chance? WPA does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience bonafide customers. Alias -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with them. For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat it, no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After all you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*. Unfortunately, the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets bonafide customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't have much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when their CEO is the richest man in the world. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
Greetings --
You still haven't demonstrated how WPA causes any inconvenience to bonafide users. WPA is almost entirely automatic and invisible to the typical user. How is this inconvenient? WPA is, in fact, a lot more "convenient" than a lot of other copy protection methods used by other software manufacturers. Bruce Chambers -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... "Crusty "Old B@stard"" wrote in message ... Yes! They make it inconvenient to put it on your wife's computer when you have already put it on your computer. -- Regards: Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) Upgrading your computer is an inconvenience too but only for bonafide users. People who use cracked versions are not inconvenienced by the fact that MS dictates that XP can only be installed on one computer. Terrific PR, this one. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... Greetings -- This bonafide user isn't the least bit upset that Microsoft has finally started to take steps (baby steps, with WPA, granted) to put a stop to software piracy. I also know better than trying to compare the license usage of copyrighted intellectual property with a banana. Bruce Chambers Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per chance? WPA does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience bonafide customers. Alias -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with them. For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat it, no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After all you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*. Unfortunately, the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets bonafide customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't have much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when their CEO is the richest man in the world. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
Like I said semantics. Why don't you ask a lawyer?
"Alias" wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote in message gy.com... You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license and use it on several cars? A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses are not products. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... "Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
"Bruce Chambers" wrote Greetings -- Let's put the responsibility where it lies, shall we? We bonafide, honest customers are not inconvenienced by WPA. We're inconvenienced by the acts of the software pirates who have made WPA and other copy protection schemes necessary. Are you serious? Regardless of the reason, WPA is an inconvenience for bonafide users and isn't one for users of cracked versions. Just as we inconvenienced by having to lock our homes and cars to keep common thieves out -- it's not the manufacturer of the locks and automobiles who are the root cause of the inconvenience, it's the dishonesty of others. Just as we resent having to pay taxes to keep convicted criminals behind bars. Bruce Chambers Gosh, so when is Linux coming up with a WPA? LOL! Alias -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... Just curious, who invented this "license usage"? Microsoft, per chance? WPA does not stop piracy. The *only* thing it does is inconvenience bonafide customers. Alias -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Alias" wrote in message ... Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with them. For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat it, no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After all you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*. Unfortunately, the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets bonafide customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't have much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when their CEO is the richest man in the world. Alias |
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gigantic snip of whining
Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 |
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Why Only On One PC?
"Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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Jone Doe wrote:
gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 Al Gore?! You mean Al Gore as in the ex-vice president?! I don't *THINK* so! The internet started life in 1969 as ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects Agency NETwork) which went live in October of that year (my US history is a little hazy, but I believe Richard Nixon was president at the time. Al Gore would have been 21 at the time. In '69 he was at Harvard studying politics). The WWW, OTOH, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a Brit working at CERN (the European Particle Physics lab in Geneva) in 1980. He invented HTTP and HTML in 1990. For more info, see http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/lee.html. |
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You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license
and use it on several cars? "Alias" wrote in message ... "Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
"Unknown" wrote in message gy.com... You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license and use it on several cars? A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses are not products. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... "Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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Like I said semantics. Why don't you ask a lawyer?
"Alias" wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote in message gy.com... You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license and use it on several cars? A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses are not products. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... "Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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Why Only On One PC?
"Unknown" wrote in message gy.com... Like I said semantics. Why don't you ask a lawyer? You don't want to know what my lawyer has to say about this. It's *not* semantics. Words have definitions, both in a connotative and dennotative sense. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote in message gy.com... You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license and use it on several cars? A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses are not products. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... "Jone Doe" wrote gigantic snip of whining Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it, and sell it. Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support. No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose. Alias |
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