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On 2/16/2013 8:16 PM, Paul wrote:
BillW50 wrote: On 2/16/2013 3:37 PM, Paul wrote: (Unix-like) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ory-simple.svg Paul Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. Are there malware associated with IM software? Yes I have heard this too. Although all of the attempts I have seen requires user interaction. Like clicking on a link or something. I suppose this isn't always the case, but I have never run across it yet. Does the proprietary IM services foil to disable other third party IM software? Yes indeed they do. While it has been done time and time again, Trillian has a team that quickly patches theirs to work with the changes. I don't know who all works with them, but they are indeed very good. Others are not so lucky. Java? Java is a malware magnetic. If that isn't bad enough, Java is very slow. I guess for some, slow is ok. But I don't like slow coding. Plus it is more difficult to protect against Java malware. I see I forgot to paste the other link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...saging_clients That has some useful tables in it. Paul Yes, I am familiar with most of them. This table is very lacking though. There are things like fonts, bold, italics, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, etc. that they don't tell you about. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center |
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On 2/16/2013 6:46 PM, becky wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600, wrote: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. you like to get nekkid and show yer junk on that there video skyp? No, not really. But when someone suddenly stops typing and you see them walk away or not there, it make total sense. ;-) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center |
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On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. That's what IM is, plain text. Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center |
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. That's what IM is, plain text. Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc. Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone. I've never had a problem with any of these though |
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus' mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there. His mother is the only smart one in the family? Disclaimer: I use Windows :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]: On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. That's what IM is, plain text. Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc. Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone. I've never had a problem with any of these though Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for IM among other things. And as far as I know, there is no such thing as an IM standard. They are all proprietary AFAIK. And I think this is the best myself. As let the best one win and we don't need any group like WC3 to make themselves king and screw up everything. I didn't vote for them, nor do they take any votes. They make themselves dictators and that is how they work. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center |
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]: On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. That's what IM is, plain text. Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc. Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone. I've never had a problem with any of these though Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues |
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On 2/19/2013 5:49 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, BillW50 wrote: I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus' mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there. His mother is the only smart one in the family? Disclaimer: I use Windows :-) I use both Linux and Windows. And Linux got to be the worst! The majority of the Linux programmers are rejects that couldn't get a real job programming. Most of your smart devices use Linux like Microwaves, smart phones, routers, broadband modems, etc. And they work for a day or two and then you have to reboot them. I have never seen such an unstable OS since IBM had taken over OS/2. I have no idea how IBM programmers got their jobs, as they got to be the worst of the lot. About on par with open source programmers. :-( -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center |
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On 2/19/2013 6:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]: On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]: On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. That's what IM is, plain text. Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc. Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone. I've never had a problem with any of these though Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues You wish Justin. I am a perfectionists and I can find bugs that nobody else can find. While you are fine with crap, I am not! I know it can be done better and I will not accept anything substandard. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center |
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 6:15 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]: On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]: On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. That's what IM is, plain text. Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc. Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone. I've never had a problem with any of these though Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues You wish Justin. I am a perfectionists and I can find bugs that nobody else can find. hahahahahahahah |
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:23:57 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:49 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, BillW50 wrote: I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus' mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there. His mother is the only smart one in the family? Disclaimer: I use Windows :-) I use both Linux and Windows. And Linux got to be the worst! The Yes, Windows needs to be rebooted daily or weekly and sometimes Linux needs to be rebooted annually |
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
I am a perfectionists ... Do tell :-) . ... and I can find bugs that nobody else can find. And conversely, it would appear :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP. |
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On 02/19/2013 08:06 PM, Justin wrote:
Yes, Windows needs to be rebooted daily or weekly and sometimes Linux needs to be rebooted annually I had a Debian Sarge BIND9 DNS server that ran for 6-1/2 years without rebooting. Then I accidentally killed the power to the UPS, and the battery was too old to keep it running. :-( -- John When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie? |
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On 02/19/2013 06:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]: On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]: On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote: BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]: Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it. That's what IM is, plain text. Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline, emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc. Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone. I've never had a problem with any of these though Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues That is Bill, the child molester. Must have served out his latest sentence. -- John When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie? |
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Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, BillW50 said:
I use both Linux and Windows. And Linux got to be the worst! The majority of the Linux programmers are rejects that couldn't get a real job programming. Most of your smart devices use Linux like Microwaves, smart phones, routers, broadband modems, etc. And they work for a day or two and then you have to reboot them. I have never seen such an unstable OS since IBM had taken over OS/2. I have no idea how IBM programmers got their jobs, as they got to be the worst of the lot. About on par with open source programmers. :-( Android is Open Source... -- Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org Double ROT13 encoded for your protection "It finally feels like spring! I don't think anything can ruin my good mood." [Kiki dances by shouting "SPRING!"] "'Oh' God says, 'a challenge!'" - Bun-bun, Sluggy Freelance |
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