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Old January 20th 19, 06:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.


I'm using laptops any more due to having to be in a power wheelchair; - I
shelfed the desktop unit about 10 years ago!

Being a huge fan of industrial grade Velcro, I can attach my hub to the lid
same as my external drive, so both are easily transferable.

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Old January 20th 19, 06:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote:


The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired!




Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get
it for free.


Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7!

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Old January 20th 19, 06:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get abigger drive, or a new computer?

On 1/20/2019 9:30 AM, GS wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote:


The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired!




Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get
it for free.


Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7!

I thought it had expired.
Just tried it.
Installed/activated win7
updated to win10 1809 and it activated without intervention.
Being too lazy to reinstall all the programs, I
restored a macrium backup of a similar fully configured machine.
Activation lost, but online activation brought it back with a click.

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Old January 20th 19, 06:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

GS on Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:26:27 -0500 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.


I'm using laptops any more due to having to be in a power wheelchair; - I
shelfed the desktop unit about 10 years ago!

Being a huge fan of industrial grade Velcro, I can attach my hub to the lid
same as my external drive, so both are easily transferable.


That is the solution I was seeking.

I duct taped the right speaker to the inside top of the desk after
this latest kerfluffle.
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Old January 20th 19, 07:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to geta bigger drive, or a new computer?

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:40:25 -0500, GS wrote:

GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 15:56:50 -0500 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 13:48:04 -0500 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
If the new computer runs the Kaby Lake (or newer) chipset and newer
hardware, Win7 will install but finding drivers will be next to
impossible. Best approach might be to go with refurbished -OR- upgrade
your own unit. Regardless of which approach, you'll have to re-install
your apps if you want them to work properly!
Note also, if you do a clean install of Win7 keep in mind its ISO knows
nothing about USB3.0 and so you'll have to install the Root Hub and the
eXtensible Host Controller available (free) from Intel if your box has
USB3 ports.
"Oh joy."

Thanks.
I was addressing the point you mentioned about some 'front' USB ports not
working; - just an FYI!
Thanks. I wound up buying an external (and powered) hub. It does
the job, perhaps not as elegantly, but definitely less expensively.

I use an external hub myself just for convenience because USB sticks are easier
to insert/remove for me. (I have Lou Gehrig's and so using out-of-sight ports
is physically difficult.)



My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.


You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot
for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the
right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708

Paul
  #36  
Old January 20th 19, 09:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
GS
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:40:25 -0500, GS wrote:

GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 15:56:50 -0500 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
GS on Sat, 19 Jan 2019 13:48:04 -0500 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
If the new computer runs the Kaby Lake (or newer) chipset and newer
hardware, Win7 will install but finding drivers will be next to
impossible. Best approach might be to go with refurbished -OR-
upgrade your own unit. Regardless of which approach, you'll have to
re-install your apps if you want them to work properly!
Note also, if you do a clean install of Win7 keep in mind its ISO
knows nothing about USB3.0 and so you'll have to install the Root Hub
and the eXtensible Host Controller available (free) from Intel if
your box has USB3 ports.
"Oh joy."

Thanks.
I was addressing the point you mentioned about some 'front' USB ports
not working; - just an FYI!
Thanks. I wound up buying an external (and powered) hub. It does
the job, perhaps not as elegantly, but definitely less expensively.
I use an external hub myself just for convenience because USB sticks are
easier to insert/remove for me. (I have Lou Gehrig's and so using
out-of-sight ports is physically difficult.)



My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.


You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot
for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the
right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708

Paul


Thanks for the excellent suggestion!

I actually do have that config on all my laptops, though this one (Win7Pro)
runs a Samsung 860 EVO SSD only because it's not hardwared for PCIe NVMe as my
Win10 laptops are. (It came with a 256GB but I replaced that with the 512GB EVO
just recently)

This laptop also has an empty SATA bay I was thinking to fill with a spare
Crucial 1TB 2.5" SSD I have but held off thinking to replace my 2TB WD external
HDD with it because its enclosure is smaller/lighter, and the WD is much larger
than I'll ever use. I might also use it to replace the Data HDD in one of my
Win10 units if I feel need for it.

My newest travel laptop (Dell 14 7000) came with a 128GB PCIe NVMe SSD but I'll
swap that out for a spare Samsung 512GB 960 Pro card I have not currently in
use. It already has a 1TB HDD (only 5400rpm sadly) data storage drive but I'll
likely never use it much.

Now you'll understand better why I need the data storage to be portable. Using
industrial grade Velcro makes that conveniently possible without any excess
cable hang issues nor need for desk surface because they attach to the lid and
I use 90 degree USB adapters for streamlining the cables along the sides of the
laptop. Laptops velcro to my adjustable computer tray that has its own built-in
slideout mouse tray. (It's actually a keyboard tray from a hospital
computer-on-wheels unit I was gifted with from the manufacturer; I modified it
to slip onto receivers I designed for my powerchair armrests!g)

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Old January 20th 19, 09:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

On 1/20/2019 9:30 AM, GS wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote:


The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired!



Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get
it for free.


Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7!

I thought it had expired.
Just tried it.
Installed/activated win7
updated to win10 1809 and it activated without intervention.
Being too lazy to reinstall all the programs, I
restored a macrium backup of a similar fully configured machine.
Activation lost, but online activation brought it back with a click.


Excellent! Thanks for these details; - they'll be helpful.

For clarity.., what OS was the Macrium backup?

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Old January 20th 19, 10:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:54:34 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.


You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot
for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the
right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708


I don't currently have a need for a product like that, but I'm impressed
enough with the idea, and of course the nearly 60% off sale helps, that
I might just pick one up for the 'junk' drawer.

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Old January 21st 19, 01:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to geta bigger drive, or a new computer?

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:54:34 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.

You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot
for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the
right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708


I don't currently have a need for a product like that, but I'm impressed
enough with the idea, and of course the nearly 60% off sale helps, that
I might just pick one up for the 'junk' drawer.


I don't buy stuff like that, unless I know which chip that is.

There are two brands of chip I wouldn't buy.

One brand spent around two years, torturing people
with unstable Windows 7 drivers. The other brand
was "almost invisible" from a support perspective, and
not enough copies of their driver had "escaped" into
the wild, to make them useful. And I feel pinheads
should be punished.

RealTek on the other hand, is the poster boy of good support.
Providing terabytes worth of drivers from their own site.
I'm sure their management have many regrets about doing that.

The first USB3 card I bought, used a NEC/Renesas chip.
The second USB3 card I bought, an Asmedia chip. The NEC
card even had a WinXP driver.

Paul
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Old January 21st 19, 04:54 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get abigger drive, or a new computer?

On 1/20/2019 12:54 PM, GS wrote:
On 1/20/2019 9:30 AM, GS wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:35:13 -0500, GS wrote:


The free upgrade to Win10 offer has expired!



Yes, however Microsoft still lets some people who ask them nicely get
it for free.

Ah.., that explains Paul's comment about installing Win10 over Win7!

I thought it had expired.
Just tried it.
Installed/activated win7
updated to win10 1809 and it activated without intervention.
Being too lazy to reinstall all the programs, I
restored a macrium backup of a similar fully configured machine.
Activation lost, but online activation brought it back with a click.


Excellent! Thanks for these details; - they'll be helpful.

For clarity.., what OS was the Macrium backup?


The backukp was win7, but can be backed up from winPE on the macrium
recovery disk.
Restore from winPE on the recovery disk.


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Old January 21st 19, 03:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 19:19:15 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:54:34 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.
You can get other solutions for that, if you have a slot
for a PCI Express x1 card, plus a spare drive bay. With the
right odds and ends, the cabling can stay inside.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6V85BG6708


I don't currently have a need for a product like that, but I'm impressed
enough with the idea, and of course the nearly 60% off sale helps, that
I might just pick one up for the 'junk' drawer.


I don't buy stuff like that, unless I know which chip that is.


So I assume you bought one. For me, life's a bit easier. I don't care
about the chipset. I only want to know if it works, and according to the
(small number of) reviews, it does. My older Lian Li case doesn't have
front panel USB3 ports, so this would make a nice addition.

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  #42  
Old January 22nd 19, 04:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default If I have to do a complete install, would it be better to get a bigger drive, or a new computer?

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 08:46:07 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

My computer's tower has no front USB ports, so what I do is run a "USB
extension cord" from its rear to the front of my desk where I have it
attached. Quick, easy, and very inexpensive. And (except for keyboard
and mouse, which are permanently connected) I never need more than one
USB port at a time.




If I had looked instead of trusting my memory, I wouldn't have said
that. My tower *does* have front USB ports. The reason I use an
extension cord is that it's mounted higher on my desk, and is much
easier to reach than the low ports on the tower.

 




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