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  #61  
Old November 14th 13, 01:27 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:07:26 -0800, Bruce Hagen wrote:

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:18:12 -0700, XS11E wrote:

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

It works fine for me, but................. I don't like tabbed
browsing and unlike previous versions, there is no option to
disable tabbed browsing.

+1


-1

I currently have 153 tabs open. What a mess it would be if I needed to
have
153 separate instances on my taskbar.

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Sounds pretty messy anyway. I think I'll play 153 for the daily number
tomorrow. eg


Hold that grin until after you find out whether you win or lose :-)

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  #62  
Old November 14th 13, 02:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Buffalo[_3_]
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"Robin Bignall" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:43:34 -0500, Paul wrote:

Robin Bignall wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp
wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to disable
enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in
'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an immediate
message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult.
Any thoughts on this?


"Incompatibility of Kaspersky Password Manager 5.0 plug-ins with
Internet Explorer 10/11 when Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) is enabled"

http://support.kaspersky.com/10576

I just checked IE 11, which I installed yesterday, and that line in
Internet Options / Advanced, for enhanced protection enable / disable,
*simply is not there* (in Win7). Maybe it only appears as an option for
Win8.

I am running Win7 HP 64 bit and that option is there. 11 items down below
the Security header.
Internet Options, Advanced, Scroll down to the Security header. That's where
I see it.
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  #63  
Old November 14th 13, 02:50 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Buffalo" wrote in message
...
"Robin Bignall" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:43:34 -0500, Paul wrote:

Robin Bignall wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp
wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to
disable
enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in
'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an immediate
message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult.
Any thoughts on this?

"Incompatibility of Kaspersky Password Manager 5.0 plug-ins with
Internet Explorer 10/11 when Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) is enabled"

http://support.kaspersky.com/10576

I just checked IE 11, which I installed yesterday, and that line in
Internet Options / Advanced, for enhanced protection enable / disable,
*simply is not there* (in Win7). Maybe it only appears as an option for
Win8.

I am running Win7 HP 64 bit and that option is there. 11 items down below
the Security header.
Internet Options, Advanced, Scroll down to the Security header. That's
where I see it.


Win7HP SP1 x86. The 11th item is "Enable Integrated Windows Authentication."
Might be just a 64-bit option, or a Win7Pro option for either 32- or 64-bit.
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  #64  
Old November 14th 13, 05:55 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
...winston[_2_]
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SC Tom wrote:


"Buffalo" wrote in message
...
"Robin Bignall" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:43:34 -0500, Paul wrote:

Robin Bignall wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp
wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to
disable
enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in
'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an
immediate
message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult.
Any thoughts on this?

"Incompatibility of Kaspersky Password Manager 5.0 plug-ins with
Internet Explorer 10/11 when Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) is enabled"

http://support.kaspersky.com/10576

I just checked IE 11, which I installed yesterday, and that line in
Internet Options / Advanced, for enhanced protection enable / disable,
*simply is not there* (in Win7). Maybe it only appears as an option for
Win8.

I am running Win7 HP 64 bit and that option is there. 11 items down
below the Security header.
Internet Options, Advanced, Scroll down to the Security header. That's
where I see it.


Win7HP SP1 x86. The 11th item is "Enable Integrated Windows
Authentication." Might be just a 64-bit option, or a Win7Pro option for
either 32- or 64-bit.


More likely missing on x86 because EPM requires 64 bit and AppContainer
neither of which are available on x86(32 bit)

In fact, IE11 on Win7 (64 bit) will not support EPM security since Win7
doesn't support AppContainer (nor did IE10 on Win7, all it did was
enable 64 bit tabs)


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  #65  
Old November 14th 13, 08:49 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 23:37:35 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch (Beta Bloch)

See. You are a beta tester. It's even in your .sig :-)


Sly fella, aren't you?

At least you were kind enough not to call me (ahem) Beta Blocher :-)

Actually, given some of the chat in this NG, I should just criticize you
for having a newsreader that doesn't suppress sigs properly {:-) and a
half}


I had to work extra-hard, to make that (slight) joke :-)

Paul
  #66  
Old November 14th 13, 07:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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Default Windows Update to IE11

On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 02:49:43 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 23:37:35 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch (Beta Bloch)
See. You are a beta tester. It's even in your .sig :-)


Sly fella, aren't you?

At least you were kind enough not to call me (ahem) Beta Blocher :-)

Actually, given some of the chat in this NG, I should just criticize you
for having a newsreader that doesn't suppress sigs properly {:-) and a
half}


I had to work extra-hard, to make that (slight) joke :-)

Paul


Well, then, thanks. It adds some fun to the thread...

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  #67  
Old November 15th 13, 10:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 12/11/2013 6:49 PM, Chris S. wrote:

"Bob Henson" wrote in message
...
On 12/11/2013 3:47 PM, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


The test version was badly broken - but they may have fixed it for the
release. I'm waiting for more comments before it goes on here.


I tried it a few days ago. A couple of my financial sites balked. Told me my
browser wasn't supported, or words to that effect. Removed IE 11. I'll wait
until
the world catches up!

Chris


Against my better judgement, I installed it anyway. It is still exactly
the same in the release version.

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  #68  
Old November 15th 13, 10:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it.
The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to
my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck
with different fonts in FF.

Be warned :-(

Fokke
  #69  
Old November 15th 13, 01:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ann Watson[_9_]
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On 15/11/2013 4:48 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:


I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it.
The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been
changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so
now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF.

Be warned :-(


I installed IE11 a couple of weeks ago. It definitely did not
change anything in Firefox which is my default browser.

If you remember what your fonts were in Firefox you should be
able to change them back.

AW

  #70  
Old November 15th 13, 03:01 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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On 15/11/2013 13:18, Ann Watson wrote:
On 15/11/2013 4:48 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:


I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it.
The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been
changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so
now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF.

Be warned :-(


I installed IE11 a couple of weeks ago. It definitely did not change
anything in Firefox which is my default browser.

If you remember what your fonts were in Firefox you should be able to
change them back.

AW


Thanks.
The default font of FF is Calibri 16pt. But this box was ticked: Allow
pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above.
I have always seen the fonts as they are specified by the site I'm
looking at. Now it's different. It looks like every site uses the same font.

Strange.

Fokke Nauta
  #71  
Old November 15th 13, 03:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Windows Update to IE11

Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it.
The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to
my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck
with different fonts in FF.

Be warned :-(

Fokke


What probably happened...

1) Install IE11.
2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts.
3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts.
4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question,
and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were
substituted to take the place of the named fonts.

Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In
there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list
of fonts. This is an example.

font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande',
tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;
height:18px;line-height:18px

If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance
of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would
no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts
in the CSS, goes from best to worst.

I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari
browser problem.

I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the
font files, would be enough to find added ones or not.
The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp.

Just a guess,
Paul
  #72  
Old November 16th 13, 10:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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On 15/11/2013 15:14, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it.
The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to
my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck
with different fonts in FF.

Be warned :-(

Fokke


What probably happened...

1) Install IE11.
2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts.
3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts.
4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question,
and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were
substituted to take the place of the named fonts.

Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In
there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list
of fonts. This is an example.

font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande',
tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;
height:18px;line-height:18px

If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance
of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would
no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts
in the CSS, goes from best to worst.

I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari
browser problem.

I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the
font files, would be enough to find added ones or not.
The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp.

Just a guess,
Paul


Hey Paul, you're the man.
It sounds like a good idea to install the original fonts. I found how to
do that on
http://superuser.com/questions/44295...der-to-default

And it worked! I got the proper fonts in FF back!

Many thanks!

Fokke
  #73  
Old November 16th 13, 10:50 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Windows Update to IE11

Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 15/11/2013 15:14, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it.
The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to
my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck
with different fonts in FF.

Be warned :-(

Fokke


What probably happened...

1) Install IE11.
2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts.
3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts.
4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question,
and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were
substituted to take the place of the named fonts.

Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In
there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list
of fonts. This is an example.

font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande',
tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;
height:18px;line-height:18px

If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance
of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would
no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts
in the CSS, goes from best to worst.

I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari
browser problem.

I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the
font files, would be enough to find added ones or not.
The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp.

Just a guess,
Paul


Hey Paul, you're the man.
It sounds like a good idea to install the original fonts. I found how to
do that on
http://superuser.com/questions/44295...der-to-default


And it worked! I got the proper fonts in FF back!

Many thanks!

Fokke


Now that is neat. I never would have thought of restoring
them from there.

Paul
  #74  
Old November 16th 13, 10:55 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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Default Windows Update to IE11

On 16/11/2013 10:50, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 15/11/2013 15:14, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it.
The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to
my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck
with different fonts in FF.

Be warned :-(

Fokke

What probably happened...

1) Install IE11.
2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts.
3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts.
4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question,
and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were
substituted to take the place of the named fonts.

Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In
there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list
of fonts. This is an example.

font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande',
tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;
height:18px;line-height:18px

If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance
of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would
no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts
in the CSS, goes from best to worst.

I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari
browser problem.

I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the
font files, would be enough to find added ones or not.
The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp.

Just a guess,
Paul


Hey Paul, you're the man.
It sounds like a good idea to install the original fonts. I found how
to do that on
http://superuser.com/questions/44295...der-to-default


And it worked! I got the proper fonts in FF back!

Many thanks!

Fokke


Now that is neat. I never would have thought of restoring
them from there.

Paul


Neither would I. I was searching for a way to set up a different
location for the fonts folder. I have done so in XP, for reasons of back
up. And then I found this.

Fokke
  #75  
Old November 18th 13, 09:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 12/11/2013 8:47 AM, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


IE 11 has bugs. Wait at least a few months.

Recipe to aggravate one:

Set display settings for 125% or 150%, then install IE 11 and you will
see the problems, forcing you to go to standard resolution to get rid of
them.

Poorly tested release for sure.
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