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Windows Update to IE11
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:07:26 -0800, Bruce Hagen wrote:
"Char Jackson" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:18:12 -0700, XS11E wrote: "Bruce Hagen" wrote: It works fine for me, but................. I don't like tabbed browsing and unlike previous versions, there is no option to disable tabbed browsing. +1 -1 I currently have 153 tabs open. What a mess it would be if I needed to have 153 separate instances on my taskbar. -- Char Jackson Sounds pretty messy anyway. I think I'll play 153 for the daily number tomorrow. eg Hold that grin until after you find out whether you win or lose :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Windows Update to IE11
"Robin Bignall" wrote in message
... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:43:34 -0500, Paul wrote: Robin Bignall wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to disable enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in 'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an immediate message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult. Any thoughts on this? "Incompatibility of Kaspersky Password Manager 5.0 plug-ins with Internet Explorer 10/11 when Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) is enabled" http://support.kaspersky.com/10576 I just checked IE 11, which I installed yesterday, and that line in Internet Options / Advanced, for enhanced protection enable / disable, *simply is not there* (in Win7). Maybe it only appears as an option for Win8. I am running Win7 HP 64 bit and that option is there. 11 items down below the Security header. Internet Options, Advanced, Scroll down to the Security header. That's where I see it. -- Buffalo |
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"Buffalo" wrote in message ... "Robin Bignall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:43:34 -0500, Paul wrote: Robin Bignall wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to disable enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in 'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an immediate message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult. Any thoughts on this? "Incompatibility of Kaspersky Password Manager 5.0 plug-ins with Internet Explorer 10/11 when Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) is enabled" http://support.kaspersky.com/10576 I just checked IE 11, which I installed yesterday, and that line in Internet Options / Advanced, for enhanced protection enable / disable, *simply is not there* (in Win7). Maybe it only appears as an option for Win8. I am running Win7 HP 64 bit and that option is there. 11 items down below the Security header. Internet Options, Advanced, Scroll down to the Security header. That's where I see it. Win7HP SP1 x86. The 11th item is "Enable Integrated Windows Authentication." Might be just a 64-bit option, or a Win7Pro option for either 32- or 64-bit. -- SC Tom |
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SC Tom wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in message ... "Robin Bignall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:43:34 -0500, Paul wrote: Robin Bignall wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to disable enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in 'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an immediate message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult. Any thoughts on this? "Incompatibility of Kaspersky Password Manager 5.0 plug-ins with Internet Explorer 10/11 when Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) is enabled" http://support.kaspersky.com/10576 I just checked IE 11, which I installed yesterday, and that line in Internet Options / Advanced, for enhanced protection enable / disable, *simply is not there* (in Win7). Maybe it only appears as an option for Win8. I am running Win7 HP 64 bit and that option is there. 11 items down below the Security header. Internet Options, Advanced, Scroll down to the Security header. That's where I see it. Win7HP SP1 x86. The 11th item is "Enable Integrated Windows Authentication." Might be just a 64-bit option, or a Win7Pro option for either 32- or 64-bit. More likely missing on x86 because EPM requires 64 bit and AppContainer neither of which are available on x86(32 bit) In fact, IE11 on Win7 (64 bit) will not support EPM security since Win7 doesn't support AppContainer (nor did IE10 on Win7, all it did was enable 64 bit tabs) -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Windows Update to IE11
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 23:37:35 -0500, Paul wrote: Gene E. Bloch (Beta Bloch) See. You are a beta tester. It's even in your .sig :-) Sly fella, aren't you? At least you were kind enough not to call me (ahem) Beta Blocher :-) Actually, given some of the chat in this NG, I should just criticize you for having a newsreader that doesn't suppress sigs properly {:-) and a half} I had to work extra-hard, to make that (slight) joke :-) Paul |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 02:49:43 -0500, Paul wrote:
Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 23:37:35 -0500, Paul wrote: Gene E. Bloch (Beta Bloch) See. You are a beta tester. It's even in your .sig :-) Sly fella, aren't you? At least you were kind enough not to call me (ahem) Beta Blocher :-) Actually, given some of the chat in this NG, I should just criticize you for having a newsreader that doesn't suppress sigs properly {:-) and a half} I had to work extra-hard, to make that (slight) joke :-) Paul Well, then, thanks. It adds some fun to the thread... -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 12/11/2013 6:49 PM, Chris S. wrote:
"Bob Henson" wrote in message ... On 12/11/2013 3:47 PM, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? The test version was badly broken - but they may have fixed it for the release. I'm waiting for more comments before it goes on here. I tried it a few days ago. A couple of my financial sites balked. Told me my browser wasn't supported, or words to that effect. Removed IE 11. I'll wait until the world catches up! Chris Against my better judgement, I installed it anyway. It is still exactly the same in the release version. -- Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK Critic - a person who knows the way, but can't drive the car. - Kenneth Tynan |
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On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it. The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF. Be warned :-( Fokke |
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On 15/11/2013 4:48 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it. The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF. Be warned :-( I installed IE11 a couple of weeks ago. It definitely did not change anything in Firefox which is my default browser. If you remember what your fonts were in Firefox you should be able to change them back. AW |
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On 15/11/2013 13:18, Ann Watson wrote:
On 15/11/2013 4:48 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it. The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF. Be warned :-( I installed IE11 a couple of weeks ago. It definitely did not change anything in Firefox which is my default browser. If you remember what your fonts were in Firefox you should be able to change them back. AW Thanks. The default font of FF is Calibri 16pt. But this box was ticked: Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above. I have always seen the fonts as they are specified by the site I'm looking at. Now it's different. It looks like every site uses the same font. Strange. Fokke Nauta |
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Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it. The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF. Be warned :-( Fokke What probably happened... 1) Install IE11. 2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts. 3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts. 4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question, and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were substituted to take the place of the named fonts. Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list of fonts. This is an example. font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px; height:18px;line-height:18px If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts in the CSS, goes from best to worst. I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari browser problem. I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the font files, would be enough to find added ones or not. The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp. Just a guess, Paul |
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On 15/11/2013 15:14, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote: On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it. The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF. Be warned :-( Fokke What probably happened... 1) Install IE11. 2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts. 3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts. 4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question, and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were substituted to take the place of the named fonts. Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list of fonts. This is an example. font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px; height:18px;line-height:18px If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts in the CSS, goes from best to worst. I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari browser problem. I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the font files, would be enough to find added ones or not. The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp. Just a guess, Paul Hey Paul, you're the man. It sounds like a good idea to install the original fonts. I found how to do that on http://superuser.com/questions/44295...der-to-default And it worked! I got the proper fonts in FF back! Many thanks! Fokke |
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Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 15/11/2013 15:14, Paul wrote: Fokke Nauta wrote: On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it. The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF. Be warned :-( Fokke What probably happened... 1) Install IE11. 2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts. 3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts. 4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question, and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were substituted to take the place of the named fonts. Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list of fonts. This is an example. font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px; height:18px;line-height:18px If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts in the CSS, goes from best to worst. I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari browser problem. I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the font files, would be enough to find added ones or not. The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp. Just a guess, Paul Hey Paul, you're the man. It sounds like a good idea to install the original fonts. I found how to do that on http://superuser.com/questions/44295...der-to-default And it worked! I got the proper fonts in FF back! Many thanks! Fokke Now that is neat. I never would have thought of restoring them from there. Paul |
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On 16/11/2013 10:50, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote: On 15/11/2013 15:14, Paul wrote: Fokke Nauta wrote: On 12/11/2013 16:47, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I had this upgrade yesterday and allowed it. The result is that in my default browser FF fonts have been changed to my dislike. Uninstalling IE11 did not correct this, so now I'm stuck with different fonts in FF. Be warned :-( Fokke What probably happened... 1) Install IE11. 2) IE11 installer adds a font or two to the system fonts. 3) Uninstall IE11, does not remove the fonts. 4) A Firefox rendered page asks for the fonts in question, and they are used. Whereas before, some fonts were substituted to take the place of the named fonts. Some web pages, they use CSS or cascading style sheet. In there, is a "font stack", which is a preferred list of fonts. This is an example. font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px; height:18px;line-height:18px If the IE11 added "Helvetica Neue" to the computer, the appearance of the web page in Firefox would change, because Firefox would no longer be using Arial (fallback font). The list of fonts in the CSS, goes from best to worst. I learned a bit about this, while investigating a Safari browser problem. I don't know whether checking the date stamps on the font files, would be enough to find added ones or not. The fonts added, might have a relatively old date stamp. Just a guess, Paul Hey Paul, you're the man. It sounds like a good idea to install the original fonts. I found how to do that on http://superuser.com/questions/44295...der-to-default And it worked! I got the proper fonts in FF back! Many thanks! Fokke Now that is neat. I never would have thought of restoring them from there. Paul Neither would I. I was searching for a way to set up a different location for the fonts folder. I have done so in XP, for reasons of back up. And then I found this. Fokke |
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On 12/11/2013 8:47 AM, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? IE 11 has bugs. Wait at least a few months. Recipe to aggravate one: Set display settings for 125% or 150%, then install IE 11 and you will see the problems, forcing you to go to standard resolution to get rid of them. Poorly tested release for sure. -- Socialist-statism corruption is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing but unemployment, debt and discontentment. |
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