HELP!! 2100 or 2700???

It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an option in
my
BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166


is your ram pc2700(333 ddr) or pc2100(266 ddr)
if this is the A7S333 then it doesnt officially support a chip with a FSB of
166

You need to make sure as you increase fsb that your memory is set
accordingly. If set to auto then it should set itself in. I dont have the
board so I couldnt tell you about overclocking it to get teh full potential
of the chip but I would guess that's what your going to have to do

Hi,

a)
The regular 2700+ AMD XP cpu runs at a frontside bus of 266 so the memory is
set at 133.
Then the DDR-133 (Double Data Rate) Memory by design doubles that to 266.
The memory modules need be rated as "2100" or better to achieve that.

Set it any higher than 133 in the Bios and it will kick-back down to achieve
133 *2 =266.

The 2700+ is a CPU rating only: it runs at 2.17 or so but is the equivalent
overall (AMD quoted here) to a P4 2.7. Hence the 2700+.

The CLOCK MULTIPLIER times the FSB gives you the final CPU speed.
== Read your insert to find the correct one. ===
*****************************
b)
The amd xp known as the "BARTON" runs at a fsb of 333.
The memory needed to "keep-up" is DDR-166 aka: "2700" at least. Here we
have: 166*2=333.

Funny thing is then that the BARTON for the same CPU rating runs way-slower
than the regular XP.
It's got more OnDie cache (64 + 64 +512 vs 64 + 64 +128) for the regular XP.

c) The AMD MP runs at a 400 fsb. Memory needed is "3100" or + . It's
200*2=400)\

Ratings: the same way.

Mikey

"Toby" wrote in message
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When I set it to 166, it gives me an error and keeps bringing me back into
BIOS

"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
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FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166



It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an option in
my
BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166

Set the bus speed for the cpu. 133. Higher ram chips will run at lower
speeds. But the cpu will not run at a much higher speed the designed for.
Jym



"Toby" wrote in message
...
When I set it to 166, it gives me an error and keeps bringing me back into
BIOS

"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
...
FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166



It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an option in
my
BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166

Motherboard ? Asus lists A7S266 or A7V333, but not A7S333, recheck your
motherboard model.
It looks like the only AMD XP 2700+ sold, is the one with the 166 bus speed.
You may try to return the 2700/333 and get a 2600/266

"Toby" wrote in message
...
When I set it to 166, it gives me an error and keeps bringing me back into
BIOS

"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
...
FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166



It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an option in
my
BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166

Seth wrote:
Tod wrote:

What motherboard are you using and bios version ?

"Toby" wrote in message
...

I bought a new AMD Athlon XP 2700+... and the sticker on the chip
says

that

it is a 2700... but in Windows XP... It says im only running a
2100+ ..

WHAT THE HECK???? Is it the wrong chip? Or is Windows? What do i
do? (This BTW is the SECOND chip cuz the first 2700+ chip I bought
did the same thing!)





Its an ASUS A7S333

According to ASUS that board can't take a 2700 (whether it may be able to
with a BIOS update, I don't know). There's a CPU table here
http://www.asus.com/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx.

--
persona non grata

Tod wrote:
Motherboard ? Asus lists A7S266 or A7V333, but not A7S333, recheck
your motherboard model.
It looks like the only AMD XP 2700+ sold, is the one with the 166 bus
speed. You may try to return the 2700/333 and get a 2600/266

"Toby" wrote in message
...
When I set it to 166, it gives me an error and keeps bringing me
back into BIOS

"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
...
FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166



It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an option
in my BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166

You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot take a
2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but - usually - a company
will only take a CPU back if it's their error - not the customer's; and the
fault is clearly yours, because you failed to check whether your board was
capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.


--
persona non grata

High end processor support for the A7S333

Athlon XP 2000+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2600+(266FSB)(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004


"persona non grata" wrote in message
...
Tod wrote:
Motherboard ? Asus lists A7S266 or A7V333, but not A7S333, recheck
your motherboard model.
It looks like the only AMD XP 2700+ sold, is the one with the 166 bus
speed. You may try to return the 2700/333 and get a 2600/266

"Toby" wrote in message
...
When I set it to 166, it gives me an error and keeps bringing me
back into BIOS

"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
...
FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166



It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an option
in my BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166

You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot take a
2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but - usually - a
company
will only take a CPU back if it's their error - not the customer's; and
the
fault is clearly yours, because you failed to check whether your board was
capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.


--
persona non grata

Tod wrote:
High end processor support for the A7S333

Athlon XP 2000+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2600+(266FSB)(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004


"persona non grata" wrote in message
...
Tod wrote:
Motherboard ? Asus lists A7S266 or A7V333, but not A7S333, recheck
your motherboard model.
It looks like the only AMD XP 2700+ sold, is the one with the 166
bus speed. You may try to return the 2700/333 and get a 2600/266

"Toby" wrote in message
...
When I set it to 166, it gives me an error and keeps bringing me
back into BIOS

"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
...
FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166



It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an
option in my BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166

You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot
take a 2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but -
usually - a company will only take a CPU back if it's their error -
not the customer's; and the fault is clearly yours, because you
failed to check whether your board was capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.


--
persona non grata

What the fugger is a 'Thorton'?!

--
persona non grata

"persona non grata" wrote in message
...
Tod wrote:
High end processor support for the A7S333

Athlon XP 2000+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2600+(266FSB)(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004


"persona non grata" wrote in message
...
Tod wrote:
Motherboard ? Asus lists A7S266 or A7V333, but not A7S333, recheck
your motherboard model.
It looks like the only AMD XP 2700+ sold, is the one with the 166
bus speed. You may try to return the 2700/333 and get a 2600/266

"Toby" wrote in message
...
When I set it to 166, it gives me an error and keeps bringing me
back into BIOS

"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
...
FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166



It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an
option in my BIOS.


It "saiz" that
but I "saiz" FSB needs to be increased from 133 to 166

You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot
take a 2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but -
usually - a company will only take a CPU back if it's their error -
not the customer's; and the fault is clearly yours, because you
failed to check whether your board was capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.


--
persona non grata

What the fugger is a 'Thorton'?!

It appears that the Thorton is a Barton core with half the cache disabled.
I would assume that when AMD tests a Barton core and only half the L2 cache
will work,
it disables the bad half (leaving 256K) selling it as a Thorton, instead of
having to through
away the whole processor.

persona non grata

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:47:56 -0700, Toby wrote:

I bought a new AMD Athlon XP 2700+... and the sticker on the chip says that
it is a 2700... but in Windows XP... It says im only running a 2100+ ..

WHAT THE HECK???? Is it the wrong chip? Or is Windows? What do i do? (This
BTW is the SECOND chip cuz the first 2700+ chip I bought did the same
thing!)

The 2700+ deffault settings are 13x166MHz. Sounds like you have yours set
to 13x133MHz, which is the speed of a 2100+. That's why it's reported as a
2100+. Your board (A7S333) doesn't officially support a 166MHz FSB, but I
think it will run it, assuming the rest of your components are up to the
task. If not, then you should leave the FSB at 133 and change the
multiplier to 16.5. That should give you 2700+ speeds (2200MHz). if you
can't get it stable, raise vcore a little until it is.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:26:23 -0700, Seth wrote:

It saiz that the 2700+ has a 333Mhz FSB... But that isnt an option in my
BIOS.

Marketing bull****. It's designed for a 166MHz FSB.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:24:30 +0000, persona non grata wrote:

You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot take a
2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but - usually - a company
will only take a CPU back if it's their error - not the customer's; and the
fault is clearly yours, because you failed to check whether your board was
capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.

The cpu will run in his board, The only requirement is that the board
support a FSB of at least 50MHz. Now I'm not sure if the 745 chipset will
do 166MHz FSB, but that doesn't matter. He can still run it at 133 MHz and
get the speed up simply by changing the multiplier to 13 to 16 or 16.5.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:00:49 +0000, Tod wrote:

High end processor support for the A7S333

Athlon XP 2000+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2600+(266FSB)(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004

All well and good, but has little meaning as to what cpu you can actually
run in the board. And it will run any of them, up to the 3200+. Just have
to know how to do it.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:24:30 +0000, persona non grata wrote:

You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot take a
2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but - usually - a
company
will only take a CPU back if it's their error - not the customer's; and
the
fault is clearly yours, because you failed to check whether your board
was
capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.

The cpu will run in his board, The only requirement is that the board
support a FSB of at least 50MHz. Now I'm not sure if the 745 chipset will
do 166MHz FSB, but that doesn't matter. He can still run it at 133 MHz and
get the speed up simply by changing the multiplier to 13 to 16 or 16.5.

heh
are you even sure the SiS745 will do 50

Sounds like your motherboard can't handle anything faster than a 2100..time
to upgrade.


"Toby" wrote in message
...
I bought a new AMD Athlon XP 2700+... and the sticker on the chip says
that
it is a 2700... but in Windows XP... It says im only running a 2100+ ..

WHAT THE HECK???? Is it the wrong chip? Or is Windows? What do i do? (This
BTW is the SECOND chip cuz the first 2700+ chip I bought did the same
thing!)