microsoft police

Trent wrote:
Star Fleet Admiral Q. I guess most of you only read what you want and
not what is written. I am in no way blaming Microsoft for the pirated
software. First off the software came on a system that I purchased
from what I thought was a legitimate vendor. Not a used system, but
one that I had made. I'm not sure how one is supposed to ensure the
software is legit, that is installed on one's system when it is
bought. The only reason that I found out was by trying to download
sp1. My beef is that I could not get any answers from MS about how to
install the retail full version that I purchased for $280.00 without
losing my data. That is frustrating. When I posted a question here
about how to do it the only answer from anyone was to buy new
software and the virtues of having legitimate software. I had already
bought the thing and before I started installing , I simply wanted to
know how to do it without losing my data. Yes, I do have a back-up
for my data, about 85 gigs worth. What kind of hassel is it to
re-load all of this stuff? Drivers, programs etc. My system is
working perfectly I have no problems with it. I just wanted to have
legitimate software and the flexability to have the most current
versions. I guess I could not have purchased it and just kept what I
have. My point is again MS has you by the you know whats! Support is
bad and it is expensive. I spent 53 min. on hold with MS to get an
answer to my question. Why does it have to be so hard.

By the way Star Fleet I am of your generation and probably a little
more advanced in life than some.

Unless you posted somewhere else or under a different name I don't see where
you got the replies you state above from your original post. I saw three
replies all trying to help you fix the problem. Two were posted within 15
minutes and both suggested a repair install. You next post was a rant
blasting every MVP and Microsoft.
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Greetings --

And if you unknowingly bought a stolen car that was later
confiscated by the authorities to be returned to its lawful owner,
would the car's manufacturer be obligated to _give_ you a replacement?
Perhaps it's time you learned that the real world is not a warm and
fuzzy place, and that life isn't "fair."

And there's no need to lose your data. Back it up before
replacing your OS.


Bruce Chambers

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"Trent" wrote in message
...
I like many other people here seem to have some of the same problems
with boot-legged xp. I believe that most of us are honest folks who
got taken advantage of by bad business people. It seems to me that you
guys all have a patent answer for our problems. Buy a new copy!!! I
have a new copy and I still have not been able to get an answer from
anyone becasue it seems that you MVP's are quick to suggest that the
only answer is to buy a new one or that we are somehow responsible for
getting taken advantage of. I hate Microsoft because of some of these
very things. Even though I have shelled out the $280.00 for the retail
verson of XP Pro, I am still going to lose my data because of the way
they have made the install process. I understand wanting to protect
their investment but this is crazy I hope Bill Gates and his money
mongers get taken to the bank with these law suits. And for you MVP's
stop being such jerks and actually help someone instead of carring the
banner for microsoft or are you guys on the payroll to? If Linux was a
standard believe me I would switch in a second.

Feel free to e-mail me anytime
Trent

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:06:28 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote:



Here is my "patent answer" see if you can tell me what is wrong with
it?
You can't.
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/invalpk.htm

Yes, you can!

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874

....not the same Trent as the OP.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:47:56 -0800, "Jym" wrote:

Do a repair install using the XP disk ( in the install section of the retail
disk) and you will not lose any data (if things go right , lol ) Jym


You'll lose all your desktop...and probably the start menu. You'll
hafta re-create all that...a royal PITA.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:50:04 -0800, "Michael Stevens"
wrote:

Two were posted within 15
minutes and both suggested a repair install. You next post was a rant
blasting every MVP and Microsoft.

If you do a repair install, don't you need to have the cd with the
matching key of the original install?


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:50:37 -0700, "Bruce Chambers"
wrote:

Greetings --

And if you unknowingly bought a stolen car that was later
confiscated by the authorities to be returned to its lawful owner,
would the car's manufacturer be obligated to _give_ you a replacement?
Perhaps it's time you learned that the real world is not a warm and
fuzzy place, and that life isn't "fair."

And there's no need to lose your data. Back it up before
replacing your OS.

Losing the data isn't the issue. He's already stated that he does
regular backups.

He'll lose all his settings...programs...drivers, etc.

You should know this.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Trent© wrote in message ...
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:47:56 -0800, "Jym" wrote:

Do a repair install using the XP disk ( in the install section of the
retail
disk) and you will not lose any data (if things go right , lol ) Jym


You'll lose all your desktop...and probably the start menu. You'll
hafta re-create all that...a royal PITA.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Where did you get that from ? I've done it numerious times and all that will
be lost will be updates. Jym

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:31:15 -0800, "Trent"
wrote:

I like many other people here seem to have some of the same problems with boot-legged xp. I believe that most of us are honest folks who got taken advantage of by bad business people. It seems to me that you guys all have a patent answer for our problems.
Buy a new copy!!! I have a new copy and I still have not been able to get an answer from anyone becasue it seems that you MVP's are quick to suggest that the only answer is to buy a new one or that we are somehow responsible for getting taken advantage o
f. I hate Microsoft because of some of these very things. Even though I have shelled out the $280.00 for the retail verson of XP Pro, I am still going to lose my data because of the way they have made the install process. I understand wanting to protect t
heir investment but this is crazy I hope Bill Gates and his money mongers get taken to the bank with these law suits. And for you MVP's stop being such jerks and actually help someone instead of carring the banner for microsoft or
are you guys on the payroll to? If Linux was a standard believe me I would switch in a second.

Feel free to e-mail me anytime
Trent

There's a utility out there that can read your current key...and
another to change it to the one that you just purchased.

After that, you should be able to grab the service pack.

More than likely, the key you have was legal when you bought it. But
it got pirated...so MSFT blocked it for the sp1 download...and wrote a
utility for those who had to replace it.

Good luck.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:32:29 -0800, "Jym" wrote:





Trent© wrote in message ...
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:47:56 -0800, "Jym" wrote:

Do a repair install using the XP disk ( in the install section of the
retail
disk) and you will not lose any data (if things go right , lol ) Jym


You'll lose all your desktop...and probably the start menu. You'll
hafta re-create all that...a royal PITA.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Where did you get that from ? I've done it numerious times and all that will
be lost will be updates. Jym


Did you do it with the cd that did the original install?...or with a
new cd that you purchased?

He doesn't have the original cd.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Trent© wrote in message ...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:32:29 -0800, "Jym" wrote:





Trent© wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:47:56 -0800, "Jym" wrote:

Do a repair install using the XP disk ( in the install section of the
retail
disk) and you will not lose any data (if things go right , lol ) Jym


You'll lose all your desktop...and probably the start menu. You'll
hafta re-create all that...a royal PITA.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Where did you get that from ? I've done it numerious times and all that
will
be lost will be updates. Jym


Did you do it with the cd that did the original install?...or with a
new cd that you purchased?

He doesn't have the original cd.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!


You can do it with ANY retail XP cd that has a proper number key. Jym

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:07:05 -0800, "Jym" wrote:


You can do it with ANY retail XP cd that has a proper number key. Jym



I've never had good luck with it. Maybe its just me! lol


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Greetings --

Actually, I know from experience that he will _not_ lose all of
his programs, drivers and settings. Some, probably, but no where near
all; not if the repair is properly performed.


Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


Trent© wrote in message
...

He'll lose all his settings...programs...drivers, etc.

You should know this.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Trent;
Yes you can to what?
Change the Product Key?
That article only applies if BOTH original AND new Product Key are
Volume License.
If Trent OP buys another copy, it is almost certainly going to be
retail and your reference does not apply.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...oups/setup.asp
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


Trent© wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:06:28 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote:



Here is my "patent answer" see if you can tell me what is wrong
with
it?
You can't.
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/invalpk.htm

Yes, you can!

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874

...not the same Trent as the OP.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Trent;
No, that is why a Repair Installation works so well for this
circumstance.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...oups/setup.asp
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


Trent© wrote in message
...
If you do a repair install, don't you need to have the cd with the
matching key of the original install?


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

Trent;
You need to
Read the post from others.
Get your facts straight, that utility will only work if both original
and new are identical versions.
Also if the OP does not know, the installation is most likely a stolen
Volume License. and it was probably never legal on that computer.
Read back the last year, you will see this is fairly common and the
fix for being robbed is to buy another.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...oups/setup.asp
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


Trent© wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:31:15 -0800, "Trent"

wrote:

I like many other people here seem to have some of the same
problems with boot-legged xp. I believe that most of us are honest
folks who got taken advantage of by bad business people. It seems to
me that you guys all have a patent answer for our problems. Buy a new
copy!!! I have a new copy and I still have not been able to get an
answer from anyone becasue it seems that you MVP's are quick to
suggest that the only answer is to buy a new one or that we are
somehow responsible for getting taken advantage of. I hate Microsoft
because of some of these very things. Even though I have shelled out
the $280.00 for the retail verson of XP Pro, I am still going to lose
my data because of the way they have made the install process. I
understand wanting to protect their investment but this is crazy I
hope Bill Gates and his money mongers get taken to the bank with these
law suits. And for you MVP's stop being such jerks and actually help
someone instead of carring the banner for microsoft or
are you guys on the payroll to? If Linux was a standard believe me
I would switch in a second.

Feel free to e-mail me anytime
Trent

There's a utility out there that can read your current key...and
another to change it to the one that you just purchased.

After that, you should be able to grab the service pack.

More than likely, the key you have was legal when you bought it.
But
it got pirated...so MSFT blocked it for the sp1 download...and wrote
a
utility for those who had to replace it.

Good luck.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!