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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1
year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
Lynne
It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
Be that as it may, it matters to me. I don't like the idea of having to
"restore" to the original setup should something go wrong. Compaq saw fit to include a lot of stuff that I could care less about. It took me hours to get rid of all of it. Now, I'd like to simply start fresh with my own version, with my own disk. Lynne "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally
purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
Do you have the OEM install disk (not a recovery disk)?
"Lynne" wrote in message news:HT41e.2541$Mt5.1488@fed1read01... Be that as it may, it matters to me. I don't like the idea of having to "restore" to the original setup should something go wrong. Compaq saw fit to include a lot of stuff that I could care less about. It took me hours to get rid of all of it. Now, I'd like to simply start fresh with my own version, with my own disk. Lynne "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
"Lynne" wrote: (snip) My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? (snip) Very likely. The OEM version, preinstalled on computers by Compaq and most other manufacturers, was purchased at a huge volume discount with some limits built in. One of those limits is that it is not a full commercial version that can be upgraded to newer operating systems (such as Win98 to XP) using upgrade disks. Instead, those wanting to upgrade to new operating systems must do so at their own expense by purchasing the full commercial version of the newer operating system. With that in mind, I wonder why you would want to do this anyway (install XP Home over the OEM version of XP Home you already have). I just don't see any significant benefit from doing so. Stewart |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
In news:HT41e.2541$Mt5.1488@fed1read01,
Lynne respectfully replied ;-) Be that as it may, it matters to me. I don't like the idea of having to "restore" to the original setup should something go wrong. Compaq saw fit to include a lot of stuff that I could care less about. It took me hours to get rid of all of it. Now, I'd like to simply start fresh with my own version, with my own disk. Lynne With the upgrade version you would still have to do that unless you have an unused qualifying Windows 95/98/Me to insert during XP setup. If you do not have qualifying media, you would need to restore from the HP restore disks, then clean install. You boot from the CD and do a clean install. Click on or copy and paste the link below into your web browser address bar. How to clean install XP. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html -- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP http://www.michaelstevenstech.com For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm "Mike Hall (MS- MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of
hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the
certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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Tom
It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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*Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official"
versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
Tom
If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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Lynne wrote:
I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne You need an actual MS OS CD as qualifying media to install an upgrade version of XP. Compaq's hard drive partition (or restore CD) won't do. If you could talk Compaq into an OEM copy that would qualify but obviate the need of an upgrade so don't hold your breath. You could look into a discounted generic OEM XP CD purchased along with a case screw, mouse pad or tube of heat sink goo. Or if you have a legit W98, W2K or NT4 CD you could slick the drive and install that first then upgrade with XP. In the end its business as usual: Caveat emptor. John |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
Why look for Windows XP Home Edition when you could buy the
Professional version cheaper? I bought the Windows XP Professional SP1 bundled together with the Microsoft Office XP Professional SP2 for only $90. I cannot remember the site that I bought it from, but you can find lots of sites by typing "OEM Software" in your browser (include the quotes). However, it appears that what you really want is a good backup program. I never liked the "Recovery Solutions" CDs myself. I would recommend the Acronis True Image Backup program. It captures your drive as it is when you make your backup sector-by-sector and when you do a restore, it completely destroys your drive and then restores it to where it was when you made the backup. The drawback is that if you have made any important changes since then, you will lose it, so the best thing to do is to make sure to keep your backups current. "Lynne" wrote in message news:HT41e.2541$Mt5.1488@fed1read01... Be that as it may, it matters to me. I don't like the idea of having to "restore" to the original setup should something go wrong. Compaq saw fit to include a lot of stuff that I could care less about. It took me hours to get rid of all of it. Now, I'd like to simply start fresh with my own version, with my own disk. Lynne "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
"Lynne" wrote in message
news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne Lynne When installing the XP Home upgrade it looks for a qualifying product. Upgrading from XP Home OEM to XP Home Retail is not supported. See he http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;292607 You could delete the partition and do a clean install, during the installation you will be asked to insert a qualifying media into a CD drive. At this point if you have a Windows 98/Me CD put it into the drive and the upgrade will proceed. If the 98/Me CD was from another computer this is against the terms of Microsoft's EULA. Whether it is illegal, immoral, unethical etc. is the subject of much debate. You could also try one of the procedures at the following link: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm They may not work in this case or they may end up doing a reinstall and you will have to reinstall all your programs. Please note doing a clean install will erase all your data. Back up any needed data before trying any of these suggestions. Kerry |
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